Conquer Club

DiM wrote:this list is supposed to give credit to those that play mostly 6-8p singles but what happens if a guy plays 8p games and has a 50% win? that would be f*cking brilliant and yet he would not be on that list, despite being better than all those that are on the list right now

Itrade wrote:You forget that those are actually excellent (Or at least pretty good) win rates if you play quadruples, four-player singles, five-player singles, six-player singles, seven-player singles, and eight-player singles.

BENJIKAT IS DEAD wrote:

FabledIntegral wrote:1. Hardly misguided - I said it was a generalization. And I can show you numerous results of high rankers where it's accurate.
2. I looked at Clive's games and about 50% of them are 1v1's vs Cooks or new recruits. You simply proved my point. Even if it's only 40%, the point still remains. They are all cooks/new recruits/low ranks.

Generalisations are dangerous and annoy me immensely, as everyone gets tarnished with the same brush.

I guess I am well known for being fairly good at sequential Waterloo foggy 1v1s, but it is assumed that I am beating up new recruits most of the time to get my 87% win rate.

I have always know this to be unfair, so I thought I'd actually count them up... (the following assumes that since the games have finished as many players have gone up as have gone down - not sure how good that assumption is but I have to go with it)

I have finished 446 sequential foggy 1v1 Waterloo games; only 66 (15%) have been against players with scores of below 1100 (and with a single exception, all have joined public games second, so I haven't targeted them specifically); on the other hand 116 (26%) have been against players who currently have a score of 2000 or more (a fair few of these are tournament games or ones where I've joined second - I hunt the high ranks not the low ones - I want a challenge not just free points!), the remaining 264 games are against players who currently have scores between 1100 and 2000, many of whom have 70%+ win rates on Waterloo themselves.

Because I don't want to hide it, and someone will find them anyway, I do have a "darker" side too (although I've grown out of it now): I tried my hand at freestyle 1v1 joining second al la MOBA, JR, torcav... and my results show how hard it is to gain points from these games - I won 189 from 207(91%) and yet only have a net score of +88 from those games, one extra loss to a cook and it would be zero.

So I have got my rank from the Waterloo games mainly... and not from new recruits per se.

Rereading your points above, I've just realised that they are very ambiguous and I may just be agreeing with you... whatever...

DiM wrote:this list is supposed to give credit to those that play mostly 6-8p singles but what happens if a guy plays 8p games and has a 50% win? that would be f*cking brilliant and yet he would not be on that list, despite being better than all those that are on the list right now

Blitzaholic wrote:

DiM wrote:this list is supposed to give credit to those that play mostly 6-8p singles but what happens if a guy plays 8p games and has a 50% win? that would be f*cking brilliant and yet he would not be on that list, despite being better than all those that are on the list right now

very good point, perhaps she could do a minimum requirement of games like 100 would perhaps resolve this issue and in the 1st 5 and top 5 list, mine is 40% and under to give credit to those awesome singles players that win over 30%, cause there is a half dozen or dozen or so that do win between 21 and 40% and play tons of singles.

BeakerWMA wrote:Looks at my rank and at yours...I do believe that says it all mate. Play with better competition

realmss wrote:Jeeze, those guys really need to start playing stacked triples games.

kwanton wrote:Sooo close to being on that list.....

Robinette wrote:I'm no longer a top loser myself

Robinette wrote:66 JBoy 3048 848 213 (25%) Brigadier Brigadier - the jury is still deliberating

JBoy wrote:

Robinette wrote:66 JBoy 3048 848 213 (25%) Brigadier Brigadier - the jury is still deliberating

hey, my win% is 25.11792, get it straight !! and when does the jury come back ??