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Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition (Cup format w/ a twist :-)
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:48 pm
by Lindax
laughingcavalier wrote:I kind of like the handicap idea. Makes it interesting for match-ups which might otherwise not have any interest in them at all. Nice small challenges and regular maps too sounds good for a change.
Thanks! Are the monkeys in then?
Lx
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition (Cup format w/ a twist :-)
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:57 pm
by friendly1
Lindax wrote:laughingcavalier wrote:I kind of like the handicap idea. Makes it interesting for match-ups which might otherwise not have any interest in them at all. Nice small challenges and regular maps too sounds good for a change.
Thanks! Are the monkeys in then?
Lx
We are discussing

as you well know, our discussions tend to be very slow paced...
It would definitely help if you come to a firm timeline for the start of this though. I'm not sure having an open war, ccup4 and this all starting up at the same time would be popular but then again TSM is hungry for games right now so perhaps it's a moot point.
Good luck with the tourney Lindax, whether we join or not it's a unique structure and one I hope gets supported!
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition (Cup format w/ a twist :-)
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:59 pm
by ViperOverLord
laughingcavalier wrote:I kind of like the handicap idea. Makes it interesting for match-ups which might otherwise not have any interest in them at all. Nice small challenges and regular maps too sounds good for a change.
I think it's a novel idea to try and effectively create an equal chance for all of the entrance. It creates intrigue and forces the winning clan to play up to their potential at all times. So regardless of whether you have a stacked deck or a rag tag clan, all of the match-ups will be fun to watch.
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition (Cup format w/ a twist :-)
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:05 am
by jsnyder748
ID is interested. Ill keep you updated.
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition (Cup format w/ a twist :-)
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:09 pm
by Lindax
jsnyder748 wrote:ID is interested. Ill keep you updated.
Sounds good.
Lx
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition (Cup format w/ a twist :-)
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:29 pm
by Lindax
friendly1 wrote:It would definitely help if you come to a firm timeline for the start of this though.
The start date is still in the planning for the second half of May. There is so much going on in the clan world, if I would postpone the start there will be other events going on at that time as well. I think this will be a nice summer event.
OTHER UPDATES:
Maximum amount of players:
I have decided to cancel the maximum amount. Any clan can register as many players as the like. Players will still have to be on the player list before they can play.
Having to play at least 1 game per round:
I have decided to drop this rule as well.
Both rules were created with medals in mind. I realize that was me being "over-protective", so I'm now leaving it up to the clans and players. Just keep in mind that not every player of the winning clans will automatically get a medal.
Lx
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition [Cup format] - Rules updated
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:36 pm
by Dako
Well done.
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition [Cup format] - Rules updated
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:22 pm
by Denise
Yes, that makes good sense. As in all clan wars it's the responsibility of the organizer within the clan to give the players involved enough games for a medal, if that's a priority. This opens up games for everyone in the clan which will make it more of an all inclusive clan event.
I have a question. In most clan events of late there is a rule against players playing for more than one clan in the same event (if they change clans during the event). Since this isn't mentioned, I assume it isn't an issue for this tournament?
I really hope my clan ends up participating, though we feel a bit stretched right now. I think the start date timing is good, though.
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition (Cup format w/ a twist :-)
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:37 pm
by benga
Lindax wrote:
Thanks benga! I need one link to a clan war your clan completed in 2011 please.
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=152550
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition [Cup format] - Rules updated
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:49 pm
by Lindax
Denise wrote:I have a question. In most clan events of late there is a rule against players playing for more than one clan in the same event (if they change clans during the event). Since this isn't mentioned, I assume it isn't an issue for this tournament?
I understand the pros and cons, and don't consider it an issue. Once again I guess it could be an issue for medals though.
Lx
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition (Cup format w/ a twist :-)
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:51 pm
by Lindax
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition [HandiCup] - Rules updated
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:07 pm
by Lindax
There seems to be some confusion about maps and settings, so to clarify:
The maps and settings in the OP are examples!
I will post maps and settings for all rounds in the near future. And there will be 3 home and 3 away games, as well....
Lx
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition [HandiCup] - Rules updated
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:10 pm
by Swifte
For the home games, am I understanding correctly you can pick any mix of team sizes you want each round? Could do 3 1v1s, 3 quads, or a dubs a trips and a quads?
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition [HandiCup] - Rules updated
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:27 pm
by Lindax
Swifte wrote:For the home games, am I understanding correctly you can pick any mix of team sizes you want each round? Could do 3 1v1s, 3 quads, or a dubs a trips and a quads?
That is correct.
Lx
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition [HandiCup] - Rules updated
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:06 pm
by Chariot of Fire
oh really? You are allowing 1v1s?
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition [HandiCup] - Rules updated
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:15 pm
by IcePack
Chariot of Fire wrote:oh really? You are allowing 1v1s?
To qualify for medals, you still would need to have the team % met I would assume?
Also, depending on quantities of 1 vs 1 involved in wars they might not get included into F400 results.
The game composition must comprise of at least 80% Team Games.
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 1#p3280564
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition [HandiCup] - Rules updated
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:18 pm
by Chariot of Fire
"TLO"
T = Team (not 1v1)
L = League (this is a knockout)
O = Officers (this is open to all ranks)
How about a name change as it's nothing like previous TLO events?

Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition [HandiCup] - Rules updated
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:35 pm
by Lindax
Chariot of Fire wrote:oh really? You are allowing 1v1s?
Yes.
Lx
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition [HandiCup] - Rules updated
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:41 pm
by Lindax
IcePack wrote:To qualify for medals, you still would need to have the team % met I would assume?
Also, depending on quantities of 1 vs 1 involved in wars they might not get included into F400 results.
The game composition must comprise of at least 80% Team Games.
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 1#p3280564
I thought medals wasn't a big issue for clans?

But yes, you would still need to meet the clan rules for medals.
And as much as would like to be able to take everything into account, the F400 ranking is like the medals. I'll leave it to the clans to calculate whatever they need for medals and ranking stuff. Since this tournament involves a handicap, I didn't think it would have any bearing on the F400 anyway. But again, that's beyond my concern and reckoning.
If that will result in not enough clans joining, so be it. I just figured I would come up with something different.
Lx
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition [HandiCup] - Rules updated
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:46 pm
by IcePack
Lindax wrote:IcePack wrote:To qualify for medals, you still would need to have the team % met I would assume?
Also, depending on quantities of 1 vs 1 involved in wars they might not get included into F400 results.
The game composition must comprise of at least 80% Team Games.
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 1#p3280564
I thought medals wasn't a big issue for clans?

But yes, you would still to meet the clan rules for medals.
And as much as would like to be able to take everything into account, the F400 ranking is like the medals. I'll leave it to the clans to calculate whatever they need for medals and ranking stuff. Since this tournament involves a handicap, I didn't think it would have any bearing on the F400 anyway. But again, that's beyond my concern and reckoning.
If that will result in not enough clans joining, so be it. I just figured I would come up with something different.
Lx
That's fine and i have no problem with it. I just making sure i mention it ahead of time so when this thing finishes up i dont have a mob of people pounding at my proverbial door asking why its not getting counted.
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition [HandiCup] - Rules updated
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:48 pm
by Lindax
Chariot of Fire wrote:"TLO"
T = Team (not 1v1)
L = League (this is a knockout)
O = Officers (this is open to all ranks)
How about a name change as it's nothing like previous TLO events?

T = Tofu
L = Loses
O = Often
Just because you know what the letters stand for....
Have you seen the latest title, with [HandiCup] in it? I may actually change the name to that. First I need some sign-ups though.
Lx
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition [HandiCup] - Rules updated
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:49 pm
by Lindax
IcePack wrote:Lindax wrote:IcePack wrote:To qualify for medals, you still would need to have the team % met I would assume?
Also, depending on quantities of 1 vs 1 involved in wars they might not get included into F400 results.
The game composition must comprise of at least 80% Team Games.
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 1#p3280564
I thought medals wasn't a big issue for clans?

But yes, you would still to meet the clan rules for medals.
And as much as would like to be able to take everything into account, the F400 ranking is like the medals. I'll leave it to the clans to calculate whatever they need for medals and ranking stuff. Since this tournament involves a handicap, I didn't think it would have any bearing on the F400 anyway. But again, that's beyond my concern and reckoning.
If that will result in not enough clans joining, so be it. I just figured I would come up with something different.
Lx
That's fine and i have no problem with it. I just making sure i mention it ahead of time so when this thing finishes up i dont have a mob of people pounding at my proverbial door asking why its not getting counted.
Understood.
Lx
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition [HandiCup] - Rules updated
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:53 pm
by Lindax
IcePack wrote:To qualify for medals, you still would need to have the team % met I would assume?
One other remark about that: Since we don't know if home and away games will be 1vs 1 or quads, there is no way of telling how many game spots there are. Which means we won't know until the end what amount of game spots players need to fill to qualify for a medal.
Lx
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition [HandiCup] - Rules updated
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:05 am
by IcePack
You might want to post / remind everybody the "requirements" for earning medals (25/25/25/25) etc in case they do care to earn the medals.
Re: TLO 2013 V - Clan Edition [HandiCup] - Rules updated
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:27 am
by Lindax
IcePack wrote:You might want to post / remind everybody the "requirements" for earning medals (25/25/25/25) etc in case they do care to earn the medals.
So far in this thread it has been made pretty clear that medals are not important....
Lx