Conquer Club

Bones2484 wrote:I hated Blitz before hating Blitz was cool.

Fucking hipsters

Blitz is an entertainer. A rare entertainer whose persona is built through great play as much as in the forums. I like entertainers.

laughingcavalier wrote:Blitz is an entertainer. A rare entertainer whose persona is built through great play as much as in the forums. I like entertainers.

+2

Without Blitz, we wouldn't even have this thread, and I wouldn't be babies momma

josko.ri wrote:...they showed huge envy towards him asking for ultimate punishment, like usual when someone is inferior in something. Probably they are now happy when top players started to leave the site after they saw how officials care for them, and how officials care for opinions of envy mass.

Envy mass? Popularity contest? No. I don't think so. For starters most game site users
demand extreme penalties for all players who are caught cheating at the game. Blitz was
one of the elite players of this game, but his bragadocious persona in the forum wasn't
going to win him many Mr. Congeniality contests. Getting busted after all the forum
boasting added momentum of the desire of some to see him punished.

The fact that Blitz cheated will not be expunged from his record, but as a known cheat
all his numerical Records are now tainted and the legitimacy of his accomplishments as
a player are in doubt. All the groupies of his playing ability --like yourself-- should be
disappointed that he would cheat to boost his numbers.

To me, the only slight is that he abused the CC System and I have no interest in character
assassination. Blitz has managed to do that well enough on his own. The poor choice of his
actions and betrayal of trust --as one of the best players here-- has let down the entire
Conquer Club Community.

He's alright.

BigBallinStalin wrote:He cheated, which for many (I presume), is disgraceful.


So, how have your feelings toward BLITZAHOLIC changed? Since the bond of trust has been violated, do you feel comfortable with him being around your precious intensity cubes and territories? Or is he a welcome convict, who was just another victim of the Cycle of Violence in impoverished neighborhoods?






You decide.

he's playing, he has premium, if he cheated in the past, mods have forgiven him, and who am i to judge?

i enjoy playing games with him, he's not the most talkative, but he's nice. I kinda like him.

lord voldemort wrote:

Bones2484 wrote:I hated Blitz before hating Blitz was cool.

Fucking hipsters

Joke was already made!

Bones2484 wrote:

lord voldemort wrote:

Bones2484 wrote:I hated Blitz before hating Blitz was cool.

Fucking hipsters

Joke was already made!

Yeah, I heard that joke yesterday....


...on vinyl.

oVo wrote:

josko.ri wrote:...they showed huge envy towards him asking for ultimate punishment, like usual when someone is inferior in something. Probably they are now happy when top players started to leave the site after they saw how officials care for them, and how officials care for opinions of envy mass.

Envy mass? Popularity contest? No. I don't think so. For starters most game site users
demand extreme penalties for all players who are caught cheating at the game. Blitz was
one of the elite players of this game, but his bragadocious persona in the forum wasn't
going to win him many Mr. Congeniality contests. Getting busted after all the forum
boasting added momentum of the desire of some to see him punished.

The fact that Blitz cheated will not be expunged from his record, but as a known cheat
all his numerical Records are now tainted and the legitimacy of his accomplishments as
a player are in doubt. All the groupies of his playing ability --like yourself-- should be
disappointed that he would cheat to boost his numbers.

To me, the only slight is that he abused the CC System and I have no interest in character
assassination. Blitz has managed to do that well enough on his own. The poor choice of his
actions and betrayal of trust --as one of the best players here-- has let down the entire
Conquer Club Community.

I dont doubt his accomplishments as a player, and he hasn't let me down in any way. Some people need to realize this is a game, and that you care way too much of whether someone is cheating. If his actions in some way affected your enjoyment of the game, then you have at least a reason to complain, even if it isnt a very good one. If you joined a game against Blitz and did not expect him to have at least majoity control(or took their turns entirely ) of the game strategy, whether his partner was a Conqueror or a Private, you were quite disillusioned.

And big deal, he had ego issues. Most players on the first couple pages of the scoreboard do, even if they are not as vocal about it. He never asked anyone to like him, so I'm not sure anyone can say they were "betrayed" by him.

And I love how you call josko one of his groupies.

yeah, i am a non entity in the forums, i guess you missed the 20 plus page threads about my ban and my return... do you even think before you post? you seem to pretty much make up things in your own delusional way and post them as if they are true... he cheated, everything he did on CC is now tainted and questionable. people wanted the max penalty because that is exactly what he called for on multiple occasions, EVEN WHEN PEOPLE WEREN"T BUSTED! he played judge and jury and put asterisks on many players in his "top" threads. again, many of them were not busted of anything other than the crimes blitz determined in his head. sorry, but he got let off the hook easily. a cheating conqueror should have been perma-banned.-el Jesus negro

josko.ri wrote:

owenshooter wrote:

josko.ri wrote:One of rare players that outplayed me more time than I outplayed him. I assume there are many more players who have similar feeling like me, but instead of giving him honour for that and enjoy playing vs him and getting high class challenge, they showed huge envy towards him asking for ultimate punishment, like usual when someone is inferior in something. Probably they are now happy when top players started to leave the site after they saw how officials care for them, and how officials care for opinions of envy mass.

ha! this is funny... what they showed was wanting the rules handed out evenly. Blitz himself called for far worse for people that were busted for far less than him. he even refused to give himself an asterisk for doing exactly what he accused others of doing, DESPITE their being found innocent. funny how he could pass judgement on others and give them asterisks despite their being cleared, but when he was BUSTED he refused to change his name on any board with an asterisk. there was not envy, there was a cry for equal treatment of Blitz, because he himself so often called for the harshest of punishments against others that he FELT had cheated, but had not been proven to do so. this had nothing to do with rank, this had to do with people wanting a cheater to be cheated like a cheater, despite being Conqueror at the time.-el Jesus negro

p.s.-forum punishments are still far harsher than game play violation punishments. funny, cheat as conqueror and get 1 month, make a comment about CC being cheap by handing out 1/2 premium for contests and receive 3 months.. which is worse?

I wont go into any discussion, what I wanted to say, I already had said in previous post.

as you ask what is worse... for you personally, it is the worst that Blitzaholic got big amount of public popularity that you always wanted to have for yourself but never had achieved and never will achieve.
when someone is quality because of doing something very good, then public popularity follows him automatically. and you see, even after several months of not being forum active, Blitaholic is still one of top themes on CC.
when someone want to be popular and does not have his own charisma to achieve it, he will always try to get the popularity by force. when you were on forum ban, only a few CC players mentioned you.

Gold Knight wrote:I dont doubt his accomplishments as a player, and he hasn't let me down in any way. Some people need to realize this is a game, and that you care way too much of whether someone is cheating.

So what you're saying is you condone cheating and accept it as part of this game? Knowing that Blitz is a cheater is not a disappointment to you, simply because he is a good player.

Blitzaholic's cheating has no effect on me beyond altering my opinion of him. He is now a member of the same group of players he previously condemned for cheating. Because his cheating has been exposed, I now have doubts about his scruples and methods of accumulating points to improve his rank. His betrayal isn't to me, it's to all those page one players who might expect fair play from someone they are competing with on the leader board.

If the only way to achieve and maintain the rank of Conqueror is cheating,
then it isn't a title worth holding anyway.

It's interesting how history has changed to suit those who have inflated opinions of themselves. As much as I appreciate the work King A does, It's still my personal opinion that Blitz was 'hanged' to assuage the bloodthirstyness of the masses.

The way some people here carry on here it's like he was a serial multi-abuser like Duality when the worst of his 'crimes' was sitting for someone incorrectly. A simple warning seemed to be the perfect punishment for it, but obviously it needed to be ratcheted up to appease the envy of those who can't seem to accept that it is actually possible to reach the mark of Conqueror with some degree of skill.
Ultimately, all the incident did was cast a hollow gauze on the achievements of Blitz and others who have reached that rank, when all that happened was at worst the gaining of some paltry points that are unlikely to have gone above double digits if that (which everyone would agree is negligible in the face of the 5k needed to reach conqueror and which are usually achieved through admittedly morally dubious yet obviously completely legal mechanisms)

tl dr.

Blitz was good for cc. His being gone or inactive is bad for cc.

Leehar wrote:It's interesting how history has changed to suit those who have inflated opinions of themselves. As much as I appreciate the work King A does, It's still my personal opinion that Blitz was 'hanged' to assuage the bloodthirstyness of the masses.

The way some people here carry on here it's like he was a serial multi-abuser like Duality when the worst of his 'crimes' was sitting for someone incorrectly. A simple warning seemed to be the perfect punishment for it, but obviously it needed to be ratcheted up to appease the envy of those who can't seem to accept that it is actually possible to reach the mark of Conqueror with some degree of skill.
Ultimately, all the incident did was cast a hollow gauze on the achievements of Blitz and others who have reached that rank, when all that happened was at worst the gaining of some paltry points that are unlikely to have gone above double digits if that (which everyone would agree is negligible in the face of the 5k needed to reach conqueror and which are usually achieved through admittedly morally dubious yet obviously completely legal mechanisms)

+1

As I stated, if you enter a game with Blitz, you should expect to play the game at his skill level. I dont condone his account sitting infraction, but with the enormous grey area this site has left for it (see: josko, COF), there was and still is no clear cut rule of what is acceptable and what isn't. He was originally warned, but because of the personal input from the community, the site decided to change the ruling. Im pretty sure if Owen was given a warning, and then a week later the case was re-opened and he was given a 6 month ban, there would be a large group of forum users up in arm(Note: not a jab at Owen, simply using him as an example with a similarly large popularity). This was the Admin's call, and while I dont agree with it, it's their right as owners and conductors of the site.

oVo wrote:

Gold Knight wrote:I dont doubt his accomplishments as a player, and he hasn't let me down in any way. Some people need to realize this is a game, and that you care way too much of whether someone is cheating.

So what you're saying is you condone cheating and accept it as part of this game? Knowing that Blitz is a cheater is not a disappointment to you, simply because he is a good player.

Blitzaholic's cheating has no effect on me beyond altering my opinion of him. He is now a member of the same group of players he previously condemned for cheating. Because his cheating has been exposed, I now have doubts about his scruples and methods of accumulating points to improve his rank. His betrayal isn't to me, it's to all those page one players who might expect fair play from someone they are competing with on the leader board.

If the only way to achieve and maintain the rank of Conqueror is cheating,
then it isn't a title worth holding anyway.

Amen, brother. I don't give a flying fig about him one way or the other, but the argument that he's smart is somewhat invalidated by the fact that you have to be pretty damn dumb to cheat when no literal spoils go to the victor, especially when it's so easy to bend the rules, rather than flat out breaking them, to win games. That being said, I'm of the opinion we should let this topic die.

Leehar wrote:The way some people here carry on here it's like he was a serial multi-abuser like Duality when the worst of his 'crimes' was sitting for someone incorrectly.

i'm sorry, but joining the other account onto teams he was playing AGAINST and letting him either miss turns, dead beat out or make REALLY STUPID MOVES to make sure blitz's side won, is a HUGE deal. as a member of team CC, you should realize how heinous what he did, was. it was not a simple mistake of sitting an account wrong. it was using an account to guarantee 100 percent win rates in every game he played against him in.-el Jesus negro

Leehar wrote:It's interesting how history has changed to suit those who have inflated opinions of themselves. As much as I appreciate the work King A does, It's still my personal opinion that Blitz was 'hanged' to assuage the bloodthirstyness of the masses.

The way some people here carry on here it's like he was a serial multi-abuser like Duality when the worst of his 'crimes' was sitting for someone incorrectly. A simple warning seemed to be the perfect punishment for it, but obviously it needed to be ratcheted up to appease the envy of those who can't seem to accept that it is actually possible to reach the mark of Conqueror with some degree of skill.
Ultimately, all the incident did was cast a hollow gauze on the achievements of Blitz and others who have reached that rank, when all that happened was at worst the gaining of some paltry points that are unlikely to have gone above double digits if that (which everyone would agree is negligible in the face of the 5k needed to reach conqueror and which are usually achieved through admittedly morally dubious yet obviously completely legal mechanisms)

Leehar - he wasn't hanged - he took a 1 month ban for dodgy practices. Masses? - what?? - he broke rules and took a ban.

End of. Obviously it's good that he's come back and is playing the game.

Leave it up to BBS to create a troll thread that attracts a herd of dead horse beaters.

Blitz screwed up. He cheated the system and abused accounts. He was busted for it. It's likely a very safe bet that he will not do it again.

He had also contributed to CC above and beyond what 99% of us contribute. He is no longer an actively contributing member...

Are you implying that Blitz is part of the 1% problem?

BigBallinStalin wrote:Are you implying that Blitz is part of the 1% problem?

Yes. And you are part of the 99 % problem...

jefjef wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:Are you implying that Blitz is part of the 1% problem?

Yes. And you are part of the 99 % problem...

and i'm part of them both

rofl i got to laugh at the people still trying to defend what he done. but like i have said it is time to drop it all. but let me just say what mine and many others point of view is.

1)jobiwan left the site allowing blitz to sit and finish his games.
2) blitz then created numerious games and signed him up to them. even new tourney games.
3)blitz then deadbeat with leolou out of all games apart from the games they were present in while still creating team games to use his account.
4)even after the report which he had read he then created another 10 games and signed jobiwan up to them.

now at present 8 months later jobiwan is still not present on site. if he does ever come back how do you think he will feel he was betrayed by someone he trusted.

now what i would like you all to remember is that just after the blitz case one of the holders of comanders account used his account and dumped all his points (this is similar to what blitz done.) and players like gold knight were screaming for mods to find out who done it and kick them off site.

BLITZAHOLIC: What's your prescription of him?

eddie2 wrote:rofl i got to laugh at the people still trying to defend what he done. but like i have said it is time to drop it all. but let me just say what mine and many others point of view is.

1)jobiwan left the site allowing blitz to sit and finish his games.
2) blitz then created numerious games and signed him up to them. even new tourney games.
3)blitz then deadbeat with leolou out of all games apart from the games they were present in while still creating team games to use his account.
4)even after the report which he had read he then created another 10 games and signed jobiwan up to them.

now at present 8 months later jobiwan is still not present on site. if he does ever come back how do you think he will feel he was betrayed by someone he trusted.

now what i would like you all to remember is that just after the blitz case one of the holders of comanders account used his account and dumped all his points (this is similar to what blitz done.) and players like gold knight were screaming for mods to find out who done it and kick them off site.

Excuse me, but what did I do? Seriously, because I have no idea what 3/4 of what was said... I never defended Commander, in fact even said he was responsible for his own account and had a long discussion with him about it in VGA. So dont include me in your non-sensical rants about absolutely nothing, in which you make false claims. Just keep adding to the reasons that myself and so many others have you foed without ever playing a game against you...