Conquer Club

yes it's risky, but i think it's a very plausible 3rd party claim. A 3rd party lynch isn't bad for day 1...

And it's not the riskiest claim... it's fairly ambiguous in the beginning scene

I've been thinking some more and I want to hear something about his abilities. The rules state that you can say who you used your action on during the night (as in "i protected xxx") but in doing so you also reveal your action. So I would like to hear WHAT action you would use on WHOM tonight? A ronin must have something awesome. My role is less awesome than yours but I am allowed to divulge more information than you have now. I mean, if you're claiming anyway...


Another thing I came up with (and which is very underhanded) is that you cannot tell which faction you belong to, but you CAN lie about that. In doing so you don't tell us which faction you belong to (or at least, not directly). But then I don't think Haggis wanted us to search for loopholes in his rules... so... never mind.

Ronin/Vigilante. If that's what you were looking for Gatsu Shinichi-san. But the vig part has conditions that I can't reveal.

Aagematori-san I can't do anything tonight right now as it stands, if that's what you were looking for. Certain conditions have to be in place.

-TG

I guess that's enough. I hope it doesn't get you MK'd.

I need to think. There were a lot of people who were eager to lynch this ronin, while they knew that TG would never claim ronin if he didn't have good arguments to prove he wasn't scum/thirdparty.

From what I read off the "conditions" he mentions, however, it really does seem like a plausible 3rd party role, but it can also point to a very strong town backup role that I just don't want to kill. I really don't know what to do. I want to hear more opinions.

Also, Aagematori-kun please.

aage wrote:Also, Aagematori-kun please.

Tails, can you say "I am not third party" ... is that against the rules?

Hmmm... This is quite the dilemma, isn't it? It seems highly likely a Ronin is not town-aligned, though it seems Tailzo's role seems to have a decent amount of importance... Lynching Tailzo doesn't seem like a bad option from what I've read, as then we'd have a better understanding of alignments, but I'm not sure.

I'll unvote Gatsu for now, but I'm not entirely confident in a Tailzo lynch.

Guys, he is a third party Vig. That combined with the opening scene...

vote Eduko Shin
You can't be certain about that. I'm not saying he's defenitely town, but I'm saying he could be. Leastways, he's not indefenitely scum (if you get what that means, lol).

aage wrote:vote Eduko Shin
You can't be certain about that. I'm not saying he's defenitely town, but I'm saying he could be. Leastways, he's not defenitely scum.

That last phrase was unnecessary, I had something like "defenitely not defenitely not" first but decided to discard that... So just disregard the stuff between those brackets...

Also, prod cena plz...

aage wrote:vote Eduko Shin
You can't be certain about that. I'm not saying he's defenitely town, but I'm saying he could be. Leastways, he's not indefenitely scum (if you get what that means, lol).

A Ronin is not Town. It is an outcast. It has the ability to kill, and likely has no need of the towns survival. Is my case really that poor?

edocsil wrote:

aage wrote:vote Eduko Shin
You can't be certain about that. I'm not saying he's defenitely town, but I'm saying he could be. Leastways, he's not indefenitely scum (if you get what that means, lol).

A Ronin is not Town. It is an outcast. It has the ability to kill, and likely has no need of the towns survival. Is my case really that poor?

No, your case isn't that poor, it's a good one, I say. vote Tailzo SK is just as bad as a mafia kill, no?

I forgot about this. WIll reread when I have warmed up

All right, looks like I'm getting axed anyways...

Attack Edoku Shin

For being so persistent

I'm not scum, and vig isn't third-party Edoku.

-TG

edocsil wrote:

aage wrote:vote Eduko Shin
You can't be certain about that. I'm not saying he's defenitely town, but I'm saying he could be. Leastways, he's not indefenitely scum (if you get what that means, lol).

A Ronin is not Town. It is an outcast. It has the ability to kill, and likely has no need of the towns survival. Is my case really that poor?

Yes. Call it wifom or not, but Tailgunner would not have claimed Ronin if it was going to get him lynched. That's the sole reason I'm not voting anything just yet... The stuff he says about his actions makes me doubt your certainty for real. You can go blind on the fact that he's the ronin, allright, but there's just more to it. There must be.
Of course, if there isn't I really would appreciate a lynch, but the rules don't allow him to say anything. And I don't feel like finding out the "hard way".



Also, fastposted. Wtf is "attack", TG?

That or the command Kill: is usually used to signal a Day Kill. I hope he was just voting creatively....
I believe he kept as close to his claim as he could. You go too far and it will be quite obvious if you are lying with the massive back-stories we have and all.

You'll see...

-TG

Haggis_McMutton wrote:[i] Everyone FREEZE

Dude, only I get to say that lol.

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:You'll see...

-TG

Your loss if that is a DK

Hey, you're supposed to freeze. I posted because it had nothing to do with the game, but this does. You should know better edoc :tsk:

Ok, if it ends up that i screwed something up in this scene I'm officially blaming it on drunkedness.

The meeting now underway, accusation start to be fired wildly by everyone involved without any tangible results. Tailzo Gunshin notices that the approach they are currently taking is futile and tries to point this out. Unfortunately the others take this as insolence and soon enough a significant faction of Sanmatsu-mura finds itself advocating Tailzo's death.

Under pressure, and facing a barrage of questions, Tailzo starts talking about his past, in an attempt to appease the villagers. He doesn't get much further than mentioning he is a Ronin though. Amidst the surprised gasps that this confession creates one voice rises adamantly. It is Edoku Shin, and he seems to not want to hear any more.

"An innocent boy was killed this morning, with a slash of the sword that could only have been made by a samurai or a *spits loudly on the ground* ronin. And conveniently enough here you are, a ronin, with no allegiance to this town, A COWARD". Continuing in a similar manner, Edoku Shin makes his case. While there are 1 or 2 villagers that still seem doubtful, it is becoming clear that the majority are starting to agree with Edoku.

Tailzo tries to get some words in edge-wise, but has no such luck against the torrent of accusations and the growing mob that seems to want his head. Eventually he snaps, loudly shouts "I AM NO COWARD YOU ... AAAHH". Without finishing his sentence he grabs his sword and lunges towards Edoku.

Time seems to slow down as Tailzo silently moves through the air, however, by the time he reaches his target, he only manages to strike the fence on which Edoku was resting. Exhibiting amazing reflexes Edoku had dodged the blow. He then immediately kicked Tailzo in the back of one knee thus forcing him to kneel down on one leg, but while this manoeuvre was being performed Tailzo did manage to untangle his sword from the fence and stab Edoku in the abdomen with it.

After the second or two in which all of these happened had passed, the town leader manages to pull himself out of his amazement and is now standing in between the two, his sword half drawn. "This fight is over, if any of you disagree you shall have to fight me first". Once he sees that both of them have stepped down he turns to Tailzo. "Since you claim to be a Ronin, you won't have any problems with giving me your swords, will you?" Seeing that Tailzo is hesitating he adds: "I believe you know what the alternative is". Tailzo reluctantly accepts and, still kneeling down, bows deeply and hands over his swords.

The samurai then turns over to Edoku over which some men are now hovering. "How is he?"
"He will live, the sword hit was done in short, didn't have time to build speed, and our Ronin friend over here doesn't seem exactly a master swordsman. However he won't be running through the woods or taking part in battles any time soon by the look of it".
After the men finish dressing Edoku's wound the head samurai announces that the meeting has now commenced once again.

Day 1 continue