Conquer Club

If you seriously think that the underlined statements to be true, then that undermines your credibility in thinking from an open-minded perspective. Most of what you've written ignores other circumstances, other reasons, and is grossly overgeneralized.

You should go educate yourself a bit more--maybe read a credible book on Middle Eastern history. Would you care for a recommendation?

dude whatever your name is, you are a snide little bully and a twerp. Sticking your nose up and giving a big sniff doesn't constitute an actual rebuttal, for future reference. I gave an argument and you replied with a shopworn appeal to authority without even citing the actual authority. I'll bet you use that often and think it convinces people you know what you're talking about. Yeah, it doesn't. It convinces them that you're a gigantic bore.

Joe McCarthy wrote:

saxitoxin wrote:
Only Cuba and DPRK, perhaps a few others, are truly free nations.

LOL WUT

That line struck me as especially funny saxitoxin, but the one about how you were proud to almost ban capitalizing nouns is a close second. Dude you are a wildman, keep up the good work.

Well I'm happy you found that amusing and I don't take offence to it, however, the fact is Germans capitalize nouns as a sublimated expression of feelings of linguistic superiority. In experiments at the DDR Centre for Health and Mind Wellness we found Germans attached physical value to nouns when they were capitalized and a transient value - as occurs in every other language - to nouns in uncapitalized form. The language itself,therefore, becomes a vehicle of militarism; it allows covert expression of ideation of conquest.

While the DDR attempted this reform in the '60's, the fascist western state tried to ape it during the '96 spelling reform but was thwarted by the Nazi-imperialist ideology that permeates all German minds that haven't been radicalized. Since the conclusion of the worker's state in 1990, no German minds have been radicalized and a great, hatemongering black hole is gathering gravity in the centre of Europe.

"Many past reform proposals therefore demanded an end to capitalization. Today's reformers encountered insuperable political opposition to such a radical change to the appearance of written German." --> http://www.spellingsociety.org/journals/j21/german.php

As a half time break:

What is the status of the paranormal research, or however it's called now? The US claims to have done some research during the cold war and then stopped it because it was unpredictable. Could it be that they actually got good results and were trying to stop others from entering the field? Are there other nations doing this kind of research?

In the field of genetics, is it possible if the war was to start at around 2015, for the US to clone excellent soldiers, and be able to speed up its development, and say in 2023 have 300,000 excellent soldiers? (They have asked me for some DNA in the past)

Joe McCarthy wrote:

Timminz wrote:

Joe McCarthy wrote:The US and the West will eventually lose the actual war, which is demographics. In Europe the birthrates are way below replacement, in the US only a little better. There are a heck of alot more people that hate Western culture than like it, and they are multiplying while the West is dying off. They dont even need tanks to take over. All they need to do is what they are doing, having a bunch of babies and moving to western countries. In Europe it's already been happening for a while and the US will follow suit eventually. We are toast, what we see around us is the ending of a civilization.

Yeah, all those people who are migrating from "eastern" to "western" places, are totally doing it because they hate the lifestyle of the places they're moving to, and are actually just planning to change them into something exactly like the places they moved away from in the first place. It makes so much sense, I can't believe it's only total nutters who claim things like this.

You clearly haven't given this two seconds worth of thought so let me help. They are moving to the West because their civilization has produced no institutions that work apart from Islam. They cant stay where they are if they want to make a living. So they have to come West, and they bring with them the only part of their culture that has held up, their faith. If you want to believe they are coming because they want to join our civilization look at Europe right now and the state it's in. These are folks that want Sharia in the West and say so. In any poll you look at of the newcomers, the majority not only want Sharia, they think committing violence to get it is a good thing.

When you add all that plus the fact that they are reproducing well above replacement rate while Europe is well below it, its clear where the continent is headed. We will have Sharia in parts of Europe in the next few decades, its just a fact.

Okay. Maybe you're right. Rather than dismissing you as a total nutter (even though you're giving the exact same rhetoric I've only ever heard from whack jobs before), I'll look into your claims seriously.

Do you have any particular sources I should look at?

saxitoxin wrote:

BBS wrote:Good point, but seeing that neither of us can or has navigated the corridors of the Pentagon, we'll just leave it with your conceding that you might be wrong. But like the power-hungry savage that Hitler is, I DEMAND MORE LEBENSRAUM! The Rhineland is not enough, saxi! I need a Czechoslovakia of a concession until I claim to be satisfied... [/end BBS'ing]

BBS - you're more one of Saxi's li'l trouble munchkins and mischief makers than AOG and InkLOsed combined! Always trying to needle ol' Sax and one-up him. Getting a little jab in here and a tickler there.

Looks like someone needs to be cheered up!


*BBS tickles saxitoxin*


*tickle tickle tickle

Joe McCarthy wrote:

If you seriously think that the underlined statements to be true, then that undermines your credibility in thinking from an open-minded perspective. Most of what you've written ignores other circumstances, other reasons, and is grossly overgeneralized.

You should go educate yourself a bit more--maybe read a credible book on Middle Eastern history. Would you care for a recommendation?

dude whatever your name is, you are a snide little bully and a twerp. Sticking your nose up and giving a big sniff doesn't constitute an actual rebuttal, for future reference. I gave an argument and you replied with a shopworn appeal to authority without even citing the actual authority. I'll bet you use that often and think it convinces people you know what you're talking about. Yeah, it doesn't. It convinces them that you're a gigantic bore.

lol, I could show you why you're wrong, but based on how you wrote your original post, you'd disagree, so I'd have to spend more time teaching you, which isn't worth it at all.

We would both benefit the most if you'd read a credible book on the subject.

Ok saxitonin first off let me say I think Ive got a monster mancrush on you. Holy smokes, Ive never met a person on the internet from the old DDR that misses it and comes right out with the crazy stuff that you do. That said, your way of thinking is completely alien to me and that you and I are certainly from opposite sides of the political spectrum. That makes you interesting. I want to hear more and maybe argue with you a bit sometimes.

By the way, when I was in the US army stationed in West Germany I had the chance to visit Berlin at the time the wall was coming down. Hammered a bit off myself. It was a huge celebration. This was before reunification and there was still an East Germany. We soldiers were under strict orders that if we approached the wall that we had better be damned sure not to cross into the DDR or we would face arrest there and court-martial when we got back. Surely an exaggeration to make us really scared and not go over there but it worked on us. Well as you know that wall wound around a bit, and much of it was already down, and my buddies and I got lost and found ourselves a few blocks inside East Berlin. When we realized it we crapped our pants. We're behind enemy lines! We beat feet back as quick as we could and didn't get in trouble, but it's a funny memory for me.

I'd be interested in hearing what you and your friends, people that were loyal to the DDR, were thinking as the wall came down. Was that a sad day, or did it not yet hit you that reunification was coming? Maybe it seemed that both countries would just exist without a physical barrier, or maybe you thought it would be repaired? Just whatever your recollections are of that time would be interesting to me.

BigBallinStalin wrote:

Joe McCarthy wrote:

If you seriously think that the underlined statements to be true, then that undermines your credibility in thinking from an open-minded perspective. Most of what you've written ignores other circumstances, other reasons, and is grossly overgeneralized.

You should go educate yourself a bit more--maybe read a credible book on Middle Eastern history. Would you care for a recommendation?

dude whatever your name is, you are a snide little bully and a twerp. Sticking your nose up and giving a big sniff doesn't constitute an actual rebuttal, for future reference. I gave an argument and you replied with a shopworn appeal to authority without even citing the actual authority. I'll bet you use that often and think it convinces people you know what you're talking about. Yeah, it doesn't. It convinces them that you're a gigantic bore.

lol, I could show you why you're wrong, but based on how you wrote your original post, you'd disagree, so I'd have to spend more time teaching you, which isn't worth it at all.

We would both benefit the most if you'd read a credible book on the subject.

Holy crap, you come back and do the exact same thing again. Dude die in a fire.

Joe McCarthy wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:

Joe McCarthy wrote:

If you seriously think that the underlined statements to be true, then that undermines your credibility in thinking from an open-minded perspective. Most of what you've written ignores other circumstances, other reasons, and is grossly overgeneralized.

You should go educate yourself a bit more--maybe read a credible book on Middle Eastern history. Would you care for a recommendation?

dude whatever your name is, you are a snide little bully and a twerp. Sticking your nose up and giving a big sniff doesn't constitute an actual rebuttal, for future reference. I gave an argument and you replied with a shopworn appeal to authority without even citing the actual authority. I'll bet you use that often and think it convinces people you know what you're talking about. Yeah, it doesn't. It convinces them that you're a gigantic bore.

lol, I could show you why you're wrong, but based on how you wrote your original post, you'd disagree, so I'd have to spend more time teaching you, which isn't worth it at all.

We would both benefit the most if you'd read a credible book on the subject.

Holy crap, you come back and do the exact same thing again. Dude die in a fire.

Educate yourself.

nietzsche wrote:If the US were to declare war to the entire world, in a crazy ass WWIII with a few allies like Mexico, Canada and Brazil, who would win?

I'd like to know how far ahead in the armament race the US are.

Comment!

There would be no winners.

hairy potter wrote:

saxitoxin wrote:1 - This is a very respectable, 18th century view of what constitutes victory, I'll concede that. Victory equals success, regardless of how it is achieved. The fact that the EU's North Sea Province's own military forces are under US operational control (see: "The Myth of Britain's Independent Deterrent" - http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/co ... 13320.html), the fact that the neo-fascist German state intelligence services report to a clearinghouse in DC (see: "The German Card" by the retired G2 of the GDR defense forces), etc. acts as proof point to your moronic, sentimental, teary-eyed flag waving of a pretend flag flying over a pretend nation.

2 - I think the history of my comments on this site are adequate to dismiss this notion with a light chuckle.

3 - Saxony in the former German Democratic Republic. As far as "awesome military history", I think one's accomplishments are the province of oneself, not hundred year-old dead people who one claims some psychic lineage. Working graveyard at the Shop 'n Go while roaring triumphantly on a message board does not make one part of any "awesome military history."

1 - all i see is some bullshit about nukes. i think you're confusing 'who has nukes' with 'what constitutes an actual victory'. let me put it to you like this: a rugby team plays for 75 minutes, and the score is 23-23. they then sub on a fresh player, who scores a try and wins the game. is the victory that player's, or the team's?

2 - well you sure were sticking that nose good and deep into that arse when you were heaping praise onto america's ww1 strategy

3 - your location on your profile says 'united states'; are you one of those americans who likes to pretend they're european? either way, the past achievements of your country and countrymen are the foundations of your culture and what make your country the place it is today. i love the uk and i'm proud of our heritage. maybe if your legacy didn't include a holocaust you'd understand.

Listen, Dude.

I can go toe to toe with Saxi in the defense of Canada and Canadians.
I'll wear him out eventually but it's exhausting, time consuming and the only reason I hold my own, or have a slight edge is that I'm Right.

You're easy meat if you think you're going to win a Who's more Uber - nationalistic debate with him. He's wiki-on-wheels when it comes to history, and if that fails to pwn you, he has depths of dementia that will have you running down tangents akin to picking up a pound of spilt smatries whilst on mescaline.

You have been warned.....


Big Johnny Rockets.

Joe McCarthy wrote:Ok saxitonin first off let me say I think Ive got a monster mancrush on you. Holy smokes, Ive never met a person on the internet from the old DDR that misses it and comes right out with the crazy stuff that you do. That said, your way of thinking is completely alien to me and that you and I are certainly from opposite sides of the political spectrum. That makes you interesting. I want to hear more and maybe argue with you a bit sometimes.

LOL! Ol' Saxi is a lover, not a fighter! (But I'm all man, so don't try to hit on me.)

By the way, when I was in the US army stationed in West Germany I had the chance to visit Berlin at the time the wall was coming down. Hammered a bit off myself. It was a huge celebration. This was before reunification and there was still an East Germany. We soldiers were under strict orders that if we approached the wall that we had better be damned sure not to cross into the DDR or we would face arrest there and court-martial when we got back. Surely an exaggeration to make us really scared and not go over there but it worked on us. Well as you know that wall wound around a bit, and much of it was already down, and my buddies and I got lost and found ourselves a few blocks inside East Berlin. When we realized it we crapped our pants. We're behind enemy lines! We beat feet back as quick as we could and didn't get in trouble, but it's a funny memory for me.

First, the reason you were told not to go near is that the so-called "celebrations" were staged events for the benefit of media. The government of the occupied sector mobilized the federal territorial forces to bolster the rather paltry numbers of "celebrants" at the Anti-Fascism Defence Barrier.

That said, I'm sure you would have nothing of which to fear. The forces of the National People's Army and the Combat Groups of the Working Class held no ill-will toward enlisted personnel and non-commissioned officers of the occupation armies and all appreciated the Americans, French and British for the logistical support they had given the USSR in the liberation of Germany. Most likely you would have been feted with a round and then sent on your way. Even the guards regiments (Wachregiment Hugo Eberlein, Wachregiment Friedrich Engels and Wachregiment Felix Dzerzhinsky), despite being more motivated, understood this was not an interpersonal conflict.

I'd be interested in hearing what you and your friends, people that were loyal to the DDR, were thinking as the wall came down. Was that a sad day, or did it not yet hit you that reunification was coming? Maybe it seemed that both countries would just exist without a physical barrier, or maybe you thought it would be repaired? Just whatever your recollections are of that time would be interesting to me.

I was abroad at the time the democratic sector of Germany was sabotaged by The Insect.

In terms of feelings, I was ambivalent. The revolutionary struggle simply moved to the next phase as had been predicted. Max Zimmering addressed this in his 1972 agitation pamphlet titled "It is Inevitable the Revolution Must Return Underground; Let Us Use the DDR to Prepare."

Joe McCarthy wrote:The US and the West will eventually lose the actual war, which is demographics. In Europe the birthrates are way below replacement, in the US only a little better. There are a heck of alot more people that hate Western culture than like it, and they are multiplying while the West is dying off. They dont even need tanks to take over. All they need to do is what they are doing, having a bunch of babies and moving to western countries. In Europe it's already been happening for a while and the US will follow suit eventually. We are toast, what we see around us is the ending of a civilization.

So you're thinking along the lines of a luke warm demographic invasion? Which is not actually a war at all but essentially just the nature of this World. The irony of mutts worrying about future generations of mutts because some nations aren't procreating fast enough to keep up is really hilarious. DNA contains the genetic instructions used in the development of all living things and 99.9 percent of human DNA is the same in all people, meaning that only 0.1 percent of our DNA is unique!

Joe McCarthy wrote:We are toast

Genetically the difference between toast and humans is miniscule,
so the truth of that statement might be...
we are almost toast!

Johnny Rockets wrote:Listen, Dude.

I can go toe to toe with Saxi in the defense of Canada and Canadians.
I'll wear him out eventually but it's exhausting, time consuming and the only reason I hold my own, or have a slight edge is that I'm Right.

You're easy meat if you think you're going to win a Who's more Uber - nationalistic debate with him. He's wiki-on-wheels when it comes to history, and if that fails to pwn you, he has depths of dementia that will have you running down tangents akin to picking up a pound of spilt smatries whilst on mescaline.

You have been warned.....


Big Johnny Rockets.

he clearly has some severe cognitive impairments. his arguments lack logic, structure or continuity. the only reason one would lose an argument with him is because they gave up in exasperation

saxitoxin wrote:The conquest will take place on the political battlefield and, I would argue, it already has and the U.S. won (to the chagrin of people of my general Weltanschauung).

Perhaps the US was winning... but we have not "won"... and the tide of the "conquest" (which is never ending) has turned against the US. Some would say in the last 10 years... I say since the early 70's and that pushover Jimmy Carter.

hairy potter wrote:

Johnny Rockets wrote:Listen, Dude.

I can go toe to toe with Saxi in the defense of Canada and Canadians.
I'll wear him out eventually but it's exhausting, time consuming and the only reason I hold my own, or have a slight edge is that I'm Right.

You're easy meat if you think you're going to win a Who's more Uber - nationalistic debate with him. He's wiki-on-wheels when it comes to history, and if that fails to pwn you, he has depths of dementia that will have you running down tangents akin to picking up a pound of spilt smatries whilst on mescaline.

You have been warned.....


Big Johnny Rockets.

he clearly has some severe cognitive impairments. his arguments lack logic, structure or continuity. the only reason one would lose an argument with him is because they gave up in exasperation

Are you still butthurt about his rebuttals? The CC Community is here for you! We even have a Happiness Ombudsman!

saxitoxin wrote:1 - This is a very respectable, 18th century view of what constitutes victory, I'll concede that. Victory equals success, regardless of how it is achieved. The fact that the EU's North Sea Province's own military forces are under US operational control (see: "The Myth of Britain's Independent Deterrent" - http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/co ... 13320.html), the fact that the neo-fascist German state intelligence services report to a clearinghouse in DC (see: "The German Card" by the retired G2 of the GDR defense forces), etc. acts as proof point to your moronic, sentimental, teary-eyed flag waving of a pretend flag flying over a pretend nation.

2 - I think the history of my comments on this site are adequate to dismiss this notion with a light chuckle.

3 - Saxony in the former paradise of farmers and workers and world capital of peace of the German Democratic Republic, prior to the US/NATO sabotage and infiltration action that resulted in its forced unification with the fascist-sector of Germany. As far as "awesome military history", I think one's accomplishments are the province of oneself, not hundred year-old dead people with whom one claims some psychic lineage. Working graveyard at the Shop 'n Go while roaring triumphantly on a message board does not make one part of any "awesome military history."

It's funny when someone else gets in Saxi's sights.

I suppose now rereading this (and also seeing / knowing how he dealt with others) I should be smart enough to avoid engaging him in this tit-for-tat.

Perhaps I have learned.

I'm still leaving though... soon as my last game has finished. Been dragging for over a month now!

Phatscotty wrote:America has such technology that we would consider losing a major city before we would consider letting people know "it" exists and that "it" is even possible.

Huh?

jimboston wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:America has such technology that we would consider losing a major city before we would consider letting people know "it" exists and that "it" is even possible.

Huh?

he's obviously been lurking around area 51 in his tin hat for too long

hairy potter wrote:

Johnny Rockets wrote:Listen, Dude.

I can go toe to toe with Saxi in the defense of Canada and Canadians.
I'll wear him out eventually but it's exhausting, time consuming and the only reason I hold my own, or have a slight edge is that I'm Right.

You're easy meat if you think you're going to win a Who's more Uber - nationalistic debate with him. He's wiki-on-wheels when it comes to history, and if that fails to pwn you, he has depths of dementia that will have you running down tangents akin to picking up a pound of spilt smatries whilst on mescaline.

You have been warned.....


Big Johnny Rockets.

he clearly has some severe cognitive impairments. his arguments lack logic, structure or continuity. the only reason one would lose an argument with him is because they gave up in exasperation

Johnny - I always like it when you get new friends. I'm triply happy, however, that you've hitched your wagon to the lead cheerleader in the England football rooting section. You planning on heading over to young Potter's place for tea and a circle jerk to fantasies of Betty the Bavarian in a lycra bodysuit? I hear KLM has a deal on trans-atlantic flights this month.

The US and the West will eventually lose the actual war, which is demographics. In Europe the birthrates are way below replacement, in the US only a little better. There are a heck of a lot more people that hate Western culture than like it, and they are multiplying while the West is dying off. They dont even need tanks to take over. All they need to do is what they are doing, having a bunch of babies and moving to western countries. In Europe it's already been happening for a while and the US will follow suit eventually. We are toast, what we see around us is the ending of a civilization.

Gentlemen, It's time to go to war. The enemies weapons... Babies. It's time we go to war against babies. American soldiers will be shipped of to China, India, and Indonesia to kill as many babies as they see. Gods speed.

The Bison King wrote:Gentlemen, It's time to go to war. The enemies weapons... Babies. It's time we go to war against babies. American soldiers will be shipped of to China, India, and Indonesia to kill as many babies as they see. Gods speed.

I thought China was killing its own babies already?

The Bison King wrote:

The US and the West will eventually lose the actual war, which is demographics. In Europe the birthrates are way below replacement, in the US only a little better. There are a heck of a lot more people that hate Western culture than like it, and they are multiplying while the West is dying off. They dont even need tanks to take over. All they need to do is what they are doing, having a bunch of babies and moving to western countries. In Europe it's already been happening for a while and the US will follow suit eventually. We are toast, what we see around us is the ending of a civilization.

Gentlemen, It's time to go to war. The enemies weapons... Babies. It's time we go to war against babies. American soldiers will be shipped of to China, India, and Indonesia to kill as many babies as they see. Gods speed.

I suggest we fight fire with fire instead...we need to make more babies! I'll give it my best go...though I've been fixed, so all I can do is practice!

Who is up for making more babies? I'm up, I'm a screw lucking for nuts.

Timminz wrote:

Joe McCarthy wrote:

Timminz wrote:

Joe McCarthy wrote:The US and the West will eventually lose the actual war, which is demographics. In Europe the birthrates are way below replacement, in the US only a little better. There are a heck of alot more people that hate Western culture than like it, and they are multiplying while the West is dying off. They dont even need tanks to take over. All they need to do is what they are doing, having a bunch of babies and moving to western countries. In Europe it's already been happening for a while and the US will follow suit eventually. We are toast, what we see around us is the ending of a civilization.

Yeah, all those people who are migrating from "eastern" to "western" places, are totally doing it because they hate the lifestyle of the places they're moving to, and are actually just planning to change them into something exactly like the places they moved away from in the first place. It makes so much sense, I can't believe it's only total nutters who claim things like this.

You clearly haven't given this two seconds worth of thought so let me help. They are moving to the West because their civilization has produced no institutions that work apart from Islam. They cant stay where they are if they want to make a living. So they have to come West, and they bring with them the only part of their culture that has held up, their faith. If you want to believe they are coming because they want to join our civilization look at Europe right now and the state it's in. These are folks that want Sharia in the West and say so. In any poll you look at of the newcomers, the majority not only want Sharia, they think committing violence to get it is a good thing.

When you add all that plus the fact that they are reproducing well above replacement rate while Europe is well below it, its clear where the continent is headed. We will have Sharia in parts of Europe in the next few decades, its just a fact.

Okay. Maybe you're right. Rather than dismissing you as a total nutter (even though you're giving the exact same rhetoric I've only ever heard from whack jobs before), I'll look into your claims seriously.

Do you have any particular sources I should look at?

Yeah here you go: First of all on the feelings of muslims towards sharia in the west take a look at this poll of muslim students in England. What you will find is that a very large number want a worldwide caliphate and believe violence in pursuit of their religion is acceptable.
http://www.socialcohesion.co.uk/blog/2009/12/islam-on-campus.html

For the birthrates and change in demographics, you can start with wikipedia if you want:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe

Projections

Don Melvin writes that, excluding Russia, Europe's Muslim population will double by 2020. He also says that almost 85% of Europe's total population growth in 2005 was due to immigration in general.[19][21] Omer Taspinar predicts that the Muslim population of Europe will nearly double by 2015, while the non-Muslim will shrink by 3.5%, due to the higher Muslim birth rate.[22] Esther Pan predicts that, by 2050, one in five Europeans are likely to be Muslim.[22][23]

Professor Philip Jenkins of Penn State University estimates that by 2100, Muslims will compose about 25% of Europe's population. But Jenkins admits this figure does not take account of the large birthrates amongst Europe's immigrant Christians.[24]

Other analysts are skeptical about the given forecast and the accuracy of the claimed Muslim population growth, since sharp decrease in Muslim fertility rates[25] and the limiting of immigrants coming in to Europe, which will lead to Muslim population increasing slowly in the coming years to eventually stagnation and decline.

So between those two things you have a start on your research if you are actually interested. One gives you the demographic outlook and one gives you some idea of how the newcomers want the government of their new home to be like.