Conquer Club

Selin wrote:There are only 8 players left and we could manage to kill only one mafia member yet!
So the odds may not look good, however we may have a chance, if we can play next steps in correct order.
Here we go...


1) We have to lynch Militant, Gen. Mayo Deftinwolf - Cyborg (Mafia Vig)

Militant is 100% scum.

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Is that a cop claim?

militant wrote:

Anarkistsdream wrote:Vote Militant

How very predictable, no reason just badnwagoning again which is what you have been doing most of the game. You have been following whatever Selin says the entire game. Its also very convinient that Selin just fails to notice the whole conversation we had earlier and gives no reason as to why I am scum yet you just follow him blindly. I know Selin is a good mafia player but really AD?

Selin: Why am I scum? Why did you not vote for me if I am scum?

You even said you was suspicious of Selin when I asked you to give us your thoughts, now he gives no reasons as to why he suspects me and you just follow. I think my vote is on the right guy at the moment.

I find Selin posting the whole role without any kind of explanation fishy. As I said it's not impossible that we are close to LYLO and trying to start a bandwagon with an explanation incomplete doesn't look good... Selin needs to expand and Mili needs to claim. Of course the likelyhood is that Mili is scum, but even though if Selin doesn't provide a good explanation as to what kind of result he got if he is indeed a cop and why he gives a full role (provided it's correct) I'm gonna assume he's sacrificing Mili

ga7 wrote:I find Selin posting the whole role without any kind of explanation fishy. As I said it's not impossible that we are close to LYLO and trying to start a bandwagon with an explanation incomplete doesn't look good... Selin needs to expand and Mili needs to claim. Of course the likelyhood is that Mili is scum, but even though if Selin doesn't provide a good explanation as to what kind of result he got if he is indeed a cop and why he gives a full role (provided it's correct) I'm gonna assume he's sacrificing Mili

Well, we know we still have two killing roles.

ga7 wrote:I find Selin posting the whole role without any kind of explanation fishy. As I said it's not impossible that we are close to LYLO and trying to start a bandwagon with an explanation incomplete doesn't look good... Selin needs to expand and Mili needs to claim. Of course the likelyhood is that Mili is scum, but even though if Selin doesn't provide a good explanation as to what kind of result he got if he is indeed a cop and why he gives a full role (provided it's correct) I'm gonna assume he's sacrificing Mili

Please vote militant, you will get a full explanation from me.

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pancakemix wrote:

Selin wrote:There are only 8 players left and we could manage to kill only one mafia member yet!
So the odds may not look good, however we may have a chance, if we can play next steps in correct order.
Here we go...


1) We have to lynch Militant, Gen. Mayo Deftinwolf - Cyborg (Mafia Vig)

Militant is 100% scum.

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Is that a cop claim?

Please vote militant, you will get a full explanation from me.

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Uh? Why vote before we have an explanation? We still have until sunday...

Townies and neutrals,

I made an exact role description of militant and I will explain it in detail before the day is over. Now vote militant and bring him to lynch -1. I will drop the hammer.

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Explain now or you'll be the one lynched.

ga7 wrote:Uh? Why vote before we have an explanation? We still have until sunday...

I know very well that it looks suspicious, on the other hand you can lynch me next, if you are not satisfied with the explanation. However I'm 100% sure that you will be satisfied.

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... This reeks of lyncher. At best Selin is correct and serving town's interests, maybe a mafia traitor? At average he's a lyncher, which I suppose is not impossible considering the setting. At worst he's scum GF trying to steer confusion and get clearance. Either way I won't vote anyone before we hear at least role names.

pancakemix wrote:Explain now or you'll be the one lynched.

I can't do it now because of a specific reason, but I promise you that I will explain it in detail before the day is over.

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Selin wrote:I know very well that it looks suspicious, on the other hand you can lynch me next, if you are not satisfied with the explanation. However I'm 100% sure that you will be satisfied.

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My concern is that it could be too risky to lynch you first in case you're town But in that case I don't see any good reason to lynch Mili before hearing your explanation.

To Jesse Kilgannon,

I especially need your support. And you know why.

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Ahh, are you Claudio?

ga7 wrote:

Selin wrote:I know very well that it looks suspicious, on the other hand you can lynch me next, if you are not satisfied with the explanation. However I'm 100% sure that you will be satisfied.

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My concern is that it could be too risky to lynch you first in case you're town But in that case I don't see any good reason to lynch Mili before hearing your explanation.

What's your concern exactly? I made a claim that militant is a mafia vig. And I offer you to lynch him.

If you ask further questions, that will only harm the town. Do you want to help scum?

And as I said you will get the answer to your question, but at the end of this day.

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ga7 wrote:Ahh, are you Claudio?

Grrrrr, don't ask questions anymore ga7

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Selin, you must realize that these conditions only make you sound like a lyncher. You might really have a good reason not to expand, but how do we know it's honest?
Basically I don't think you can out yourself further than you already did. If you're honest, we do lynch Mili and it turns out as you say you will obviously have a big target painted on your back. So I don't see how anything of actual explanatory content will make a difference....

Bahhh! I wanna know
Vote Militant

Selin this does not sound right. Lyncher or a second usurper, I don't know. Explain how you got the information. Blindly following you isn't really what is probably best for town

I might take a long shot here but... Just looking over the talk since the beginning of the day makes me think we can trust Selin. Basically Mili has been actively voting townies and I wouldn't find it strange for him to be scum; I already thought there was a link between Pancake and Illy so there could be a chance they're also scum and now they're adamant in not wanting to vote Mili; I trust Mandy and AD to be town at this point. That leaves as unknown Jnd and Selin.

Iliad wrote:Selin this does not sound right. Lyncher or a second usurper, I don't know. Explain how you got the information. Blindly following you isn't really what is probably best for town

Any explanation at this point will help scum
I really have difficulties with this approach "explain why". We killed only one scum yet. I don't want to give information to scum at this point because of a specific reason, which I will explain before the end of the day. So just be patient, until we get him at lynch -1.

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Ask yourself the question:

Does it harm to kill the mafia vig first?

Then you will come to the conclusion whatever explanation I may make now ( to answer your requests) will actually not change the priority 1, namely lynching a mafia vig.

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ga7 wrote:I might take a long shot here but... Just looking over the talk since the beginning of the day makes me think we can trust Selin. Basically Mili has been actively voting townies and I wouldn't find it strange for him to be scum; I already thought there was a link between Pancake and Illy so there could be a chance they're also scum and now they're adamant in not wanting to vote Mili; I trust Mandy and AD to be town at this point. That leaves as unknown Jnd and Selin.

I just don't like blindly trsuting people. Especially this late in the game. If selin gave any even vague hint or reason that would be okay.

@Selin:town needs information. If you are spot on the mafia know you have some kind of power role. You might as well share the information with town.

ga7 wrote:I might take a long shot here but... Just looking over the talk since the beginning of the day makes me think we can trust Selin. Basically Mili has been actively voting townies and I wouldn't find it strange for him to be scum; I already thought there was a link between Pancake and Illy so there could be a chance they're also scum and now they're adamant in not wanting to vote Mili; I trust Mandy and AD to be town at this point. That leaves as unknown Jnd and Selin.

There you go again. I never said I didn't want to lynch Mili, I wanted an explanation. This is the third time you've done this in one game. I'm not against voting Mili, but your lynch looks a lot more appealing at this point.