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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:16 pm
by wicked
oh puhhleaase MB! you know as well as I do that's what we do in these games. and you have been mafia, and you have never pushed for no lynch.

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:16 pm
by vgmmaster
Master Bush wrote:
wicked wrote:only noobs want a no lynch. mafia want as many kills as possible.


wicked wrote:So we basically sacrifice an annoying noob townie who no one will miss the first day since we have nothing to go on.


As many kills as possible huh? I got my eye on you Wicked.

Abd I disagree with you. Maifa would take a no lynch everytime. Because a no lynch makes it 100% that they live another day. If I was mafia, I would go into every day hoping for a no lynch. Yea, it will take it longer to win the game for the mafia, but they would be guaranteed the win.

Think about it.


You're partially correct. If there is another mafia group or an SK, they could kill the one mafia group at night. Also, the longer the cop is alive, the more investigations he recieves, which makes it more and more dangerous for the mafia with each passing day.

At the beginning of the game, sure they may want a no lynch. But they wouldn't want to do that everyday. At least, I would highly doubt it.

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:17 pm
by wicked
and your eye is always on me!! :lol:

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:20 pm
by wicked
well you guys play mafia much differently than I do then.... mafia want kills, they want the town going after each other so they can sit back and hop on a bandwagon vote. I should know, as often as I've won as a mafia. :wink:

and there's no reason to believe there's two mafia groups on board in a 16 player game.

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:21 pm
by for dummies
i highly doubt that there are 2 mafia groups on board. there is no mention of it and it would not really make much sense.

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:23 pm
by vgmmaster
I don't think there is two mafias either.

However, if I had to guess, I'd say there are four mafia members and an additional killing role of some sort.

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:23 pm
by Master Bush
wicked wrote:oh puhhleaase MB! you know as well as I do that's what we do in these games. and you have been mafia, and you have never pushed for no lynch.


You know why I never push for a no-lynch when I was mafia. It's because I'm good enough to get people to vote off a townie. So why waste my talents on pushing for a no-lynch. Plus it's too obvious to flat out push for a no-lynch.

wicked wrote:and your eye is always on me!! :lol:


That's true. 8)

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:23 pm
by spinwizard
Fircoal wrote:
wicked wrote:OMFG how many times do we have to explain shit to you over and over? would you actually READ the posts we're making here? For the last time... we learn by lynching... who votes for whom, who votes when, etc.... by not going through that process, we have no leads.
Not reading the thread is a scum tell, another thing against Spin, and maybe Wisse.
So we basically sacrifice an annoying noob townie who no one will miss the first day since we have nothing to go on. Then later, we can go back and look at the vote records, knowing that mafia behave certain ways.
The noob might have friends, and we'd miss the noob if it was the cop or doc.


yeah cause wicked did not do that earler!!!!!!!

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:28 pm
by wicked
Master Bush wrote:You know why I never push for a no-lynch when I was mafia. It's because I'm good enough to get people to vote off a townie.


exactly my point.

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:30 pm
by Fircoal
vgmmaster wrote:I don't think there is two mafias either.

However, if I had to guess, I'd say there are four mafia members and an additional killing role of some sort.


2 mafias and your ideas could put the town at GAme Over, before we reach the colony.

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:30 pm
by wicked
For the record, I'm going to ignore all stupid noob postings from now on. If anyone has a reasonable question that hasn't been answered already, I'll be happy to answer it, but constantly replying to stupid noob shit is only spamming the thread IMO.

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:31 pm
by vgmmaster
Fircoal wrote:
vgmmaster wrote:I don't think there is two mafias either.

However, if I had to guess, I'd say there are four mafia members and an additional killing role of some sort.


2 mafias and your ideas could put the town at GAme Over, before we reach the colony.


Well, let's say that there is just one mafia group with four members. It's perfectly reasonable as 4 is less than 1/3 of 15.

However, we won't know if there are any additional killers until night comes.

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:32 pm
by Master Bush
wicked wrote:
Master Bush wrote:You know why I never push for a no-lynch when I was mafia. It's because I'm good enough to get people to vote off a townie.


exactly my point.


Very few have the talents that I have though. :lol:

But really. Think about this: If every day there is a no-lynch, who wins the game?

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:33 pm
by Master Bush
wicked wrote:If anyone has a reasonable question that hasn't been answered already, I'll be happy to answer it


What are you wearing?

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:33 pm
by Fircoal
vgmmaster wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
vgmmaster wrote:I don't think there is two mafias either.

However, if I had to guess, I'd say there are four mafia members and an additional killing role of some sort.


2 mafias and your ideas could put the town at GAme Over, before we reach the colony.


Well, let's say that there is just one mafia group with four members. It's perfectly reasonable as 4 is less than 1/3 of 15.

However, we won't know if there are any additional killers until night comes.
I know 4 people is reasonible, but with an extra killer, it's unbalenced and could result in GAme Over before we meet with the other conoly.

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:35 pm
by Fircoal
Master Bush wrote:
wicked wrote:
Master Bush wrote:You know why I never push for a no-lynch when I was mafia. It's because I'm good enough to get people to vote off a townie.


exactly my point.


Very few have the talents that I have though. :lol:

But really. Think about this: If every day there is a no-lynch, who wins the game?


Fircoal does, cause Fircoal always wins. But in a real game, mafia would win, and the townies would be shamed for life for being such idiots.

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:35 pm
by vgmmaster
Fircoal wrote:
vgmmaster wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
vgmmaster wrote:I don't think there is two mafias either.

However, if I had to guess, I'd say there are four mafia members and an additional killing role of some sort.


2 mafias and your ideas could put the town at GAme Over, before we reach the colony.


Well, let's say that there is just one mafia group with four members. It's perfectly reasonable as 4 is less than 1/3 of 15.

However, we won't know if there are any additional killers until night comes.
I know 4 people is reasonible, but with an extra killer, it's unbalenced and could result in GAme Over before we meet with the other conoly.


Well, it's always possible that the additional killer may only have one kill (vig) or perhaps only every other night (SK variation)

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:36 pm
by Fircoal
vgmmaster wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
vgmmaster wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
vgmmaster wrote:I don't think there is two mafias either.

However, if I had to guess, I'd say there are four mafia members and an additional killing role of some sort.


2 mafias and your ideas could put the town at GAme Over, before we reach the colony.


Well, let's say that there is just one mafia group with four members. It's perfectly reasonable as 4 is less than 1/3 of 15.

However, we won't know if there are any additional killers until night comes.
I know 4 people is reasonible, but with an extra killer, it's unbalenced and could result in GAme Over before we meet with the other conoly.


Well, it's always possible that the additional killer may only have one kill (vig) or perhaps only every other night (SK variation)

both could lead to game over. 8)

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:37 pm
by for dummies
damn it people. :evil: at this point it doesn't matter how many mafia members there are. We are wasting time when all we should be doing is trying to figure out WHO is in the mafia. If we can consistently find and kill mafia members we don't need to worry about how many of them there are, we will get them all eventually. I know i am a relative newb at mafia but we nee to get our heads in the game.

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:37 pm
by vgmmaster
@Fircoal - Maybe so. I'm just trying to look at every possibility.

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:38 pm
by Master Bush
for dummies wrote:damn it people. :evil: at this point it doesn't matter how many mafia members there are. We are wasting time when all we should be doing is trying to figure out WHO is in the mafia. If we can consistently find and kill mafia members we don't need to worry about how many of them there are, we will get them all eventually. I know i am a relative newb at mafia but we nee to get our heads in the game.


fos dummies

and not just for dummies, but all dummies. I dont like people yelling at me.

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:39 pm
by for dummies
well right now you deserve to be yelled at some.

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:39 pm
by wicked
Fine dummy... tell us why we shouldn't vote for you.

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:40 pm
by wicked
You're FOSing yourself MB??? :shock:

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:41 pm
by for dummies
because i am the one encouraging people to get off their asses and try to figure out who is in the mafia so that we can lynch them. most mafia members don't do that. they stall and spam so that the game gets bogged down and they aren't discovered.