Conquer Club

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:53 am**

Senfive wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
Senfive wrote:2. Again anyone who is unknown in this game is obviously not Pro-Town. Wicked was a Serial Killer

That's not truth I think it's everyone who the mafia intentionality killed that is unknown.

Wanna Bet me on that?

I probably will, how can 3 people all not be pro-town, and not mafia when 7:12 would be way too scum favored. And the changes of always lynching someone not pro-town is very low.

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:55 am**

Fircoal wrote:
Senfive wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
Senfive wrote:2. Again anyone who is unknown in this game is obviously not Pro-Town. Wicked was a Serial Killer

That's not truth I think it's everyone who the mafia intentionality killed that is unknown.

Wanna Bet me on that?

I probably will, how can 3 people all not be pro-town, and not mafia when 7:12 would be way too scum favored. And the changes of always lynching someone not pro-town is very low.

Wanna try 7 out of 19. 6 out of 19 if there are only 3 mafia.

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:57 am**

SenFive...did you read this post??

supercram wrote:it takes 7 to lynch so we need to be a bit more careful with our votes. if there are 3 mafia left (is that what we're assuming?) then they can bandwagon pretty quickly together.

but i'm going to go ahead and

vote kokunai

because of this:
Kokunai wrote:Alright gonna withhold voting this time. But, I think the argument against Fircoal and P.Gizzle is sound. Against RD seems weak. RK, hasn't said anything that removes my suspicion. For Dummies throwing out a FOS on senfive seems strange. That pretty much sums up my thinking.

wow. blatant teamwork with your scum buddy. then you ALSO vote Master Bush with your scum buddy. sorry, WAY too cozy.

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:03 am**

Senfive wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
Senfive wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
Senfive wrote:2. Again anyone who is unknown in this game is obviously not Pro-Town. Wicked was a Serial Killer

That's not truth I think it's everyone who the mafia intentionality killed that is unknown.

Wanna Bet me on that?

I probably will, how can 3 people all not be pro-town, and not mafia when 7:12 would be way too scum favored. And the changes of always lynching someone not pro-town is very low.

Wanna try 7 out of 19. 6 out of 19 if there are only 3 mafia.

Still 6:13, it still remains that it would be hard to elimate a scum person every night.

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:13 am**

supercram wrote:SenFive...did you read this post??

supercram wrote:it takes 7 to lynch so we need to be a bit more careful with our votes. if there are 3 mafia left (is that what we're assuming?) then they can bandwagon pretty quickly together.

but i'm going to go ahead and

vote kokunai

because of this:
Kokunai wrote:Alright gonna withhold voting this time. But, I think the argument against Fircoal and P.Gizzle is sound. Against RD seems weak. RK, hasn't said anything that removes my suspicion. For Dummies throwing out a FOS on senfive seems strange. That pretty much sums up my thinking.

wow. blatant teamwork with your scum buddy. then you ALSO vote Master Bush with your scum buddy. sorry, WAY too cozy.

Great Find. I saw this but thought nothing of it at the time. In light of what we found out when RD was lynched I have to agree with you. I still want to here from Trestain, for dummies, and Kokunai.

Vote Kokunai

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:28 am**

I gotta go with fircoal on the 'unknown roles' issue (not going to quote, it's right above).

The idea that they're not pro-town doesn't seem to hold water. What, were wicked, mach, and p gizzle members of rival mafia clans? Are there 4 mafia and 2 serial killers? There isn't the body count to justify that sort of role setup. It would be a slaughterhouse in here. Even if there were several doctors, we'd be losing more than one person in three nights (and that one person only died because of the weird commuter thing). Besides, it seems too gimmicky. Like autoload decided to set up a slaughterhouse and see what would happen. And that would be mean.

But otherwise I have to give a big =D>

to senfive. You don't post often, man, but when you do, you go the full nine.

Still would like to hear from kokunai... anyone know off hand how many votes there are for him?

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:53 am**

Incandenza wrote:I gotta go with fircoal on the 'unknown roles' issue (not going to quote, it's right above).

The idea that they're not pro-town doesn't seem to hold water. What, were wicked, mach, and p gizzle members of rival mafia clans? ?

guys they didn't have to be mafia to be pro-mafia. meaning, they don't necessarily have the power to kill people at night, but they could be like a mafia cop or mafia framer, etc.

we would still get one body a night, but there would be people whose win condition would be with the mafia eliminating everyone else.

BTW, i have a funny feeling that wicked was not a townie. i know for a fact that in other mafia games, the mod will say "Unknown" if mafia kill the Serial Killer at night or whatever, just to keep the game more interesting.

P Gizzle was probably pro-mafia, Wicked may just have been out for herself.

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:01 am**

supercram wrote:
Incandenza wrote:I gotta go with fircoal on the 'unknown roles' issue (not going to quote, it's right above).

The idea that they're not pro-town doesn't seem to hold water. What, were wicked, mach, and p gizzle members of rival mafia clans? ?

guys they didn't have to be mafia to be pro-mafia. meaning, they don't necessarily have the power to kill people at night, but they could be like a mafia cop or mafia framer, etc.

we would still get one body a night, but there would be people whose win condition would be with the mafia eliminating everyone else.

BTW, i have a funny feeling that wicked was not a townie. i know for a fact that in other mafia games, the mod will say "Unknown" if mafia kill the Serial Killer at night or whatever, just to keep the game more interesting.

P Gizzle was probably pro-mafia, Wicked may just have been out for herself.

I know that, but the likely hood of 3 straight pro-scum people being killed by the mafia is unlikely.

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:44 am**

Master Bush wrote:Really, if you were mafia, would you kill of trestain tonight, or kill someone else, and let the townies believe that trestain was lying, so they can lynch him the next day?

If trestain is not mafia, they would be dumb to kill him off tonight.

this is why i wasn't killed off last night.

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:33 am**

trestain wrote:
Master Bush wrote:Really, if you were mafia, would you kill of trestain tonight, or kill someone else, and let the townies believe that trestain was lying, so they can lynch him the next day?

If trestain is not mafia, they would be dumb to kill him off tonight.

this is why i wasn't killed off last night.

so MB gives you a reason that if you are a townie, not to kill you, so others will lynch you. Thats your only defense? I bet you will play that out 'til the bitter end, won't you. If I was mafia and a power role was admitted without provocation that can't be protected I would have killed them. Due to no one having claimed to want to lynch you, the townies would have had no suspect and been running around in circles. No one was even voting for you when you claimed. MB bailed you out by giving this circle logic.

I think the reason you weren't killed is because you are Scum. You killed P Gizzle to try to mount a case on me, which we all agree has failed. My thoughts on this are that we Lynch Trestain. If he is Scum which he smells like atm, then MB is his partner. If he is a nurse like he claimed then I vote we go with Kok the next day.

Very Big FOS Trestain

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:53 am**

nah i don't think kokunai is the mafia,
i FOS, RK & SenFive
and i VOTE: Trestain
for the same reason as before...

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:05 am**

Senfive I have posted several times that the reason I did what I did was because at the time everyone was going down this route of the mafia killing off seasoned players, I wanted to try and tell people why I knew this was not the case.

Think about it, would I have put that much heat on myself if i was mafia. At the time i didn't even have any FOS let alone votes

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:14 am**

plus if we do have a vigilante that person will know i am telling the truth, IF WE HAVE DO NOT SAY ANYTHING TO SHOW WHO YOU ARE. because they would have killed wicked

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:36 am**

Also the reason it made sense for the mafia not to kill me last night is, If they killed someone else last night which they did, they are going to try and get me lynched today which means two guaranteed townie kills for the mafia.
If the mafia killed me last night then they would have to hope that the rest of the townies did not kill one of them today.

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:38 am**

sorry for not putting all this in one post by the way.

So I would look at who tries to push for my lynch today as possible mafia

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:44 am**

trestain wrote:Also the reason it made sense for the mafia not to kill me last night is, If they killed someone else last night which they did, they are going to try and get me lynched today which means two guaranteed townie kills for the mafia.
If the mafia killed me last night then they would have to hope that the rest of the townies did not kill one of them today.

or you are the mafia...

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:19 am**

supercram wrote:what's with all these wacko letters??? what the heck is DOS?
Dick Of Suspicion?

I love it when you understand me so well crammy honey,

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:20 am**

trestain wrote:Also the reason it made sense for the mafia not to kill me last night is, If they killed someone else last night which they did, they are going to try and get me lynched today which means two guaranteed townie kills for the mafia.
If the mafia killed me last night then they would have to hope that the rest of the townies did not kill one of them today.

Tell me something that doesn't sound Scum Like. You just repeated what your Partner in Crime already said to try to save you. Circular logic doesn't help your case any trestain.

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:25 am**

For absence of even the slightest explanation

Vote Kokunai

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:11 am**

Vote Count:

1 reverend_kyle (XenHu)
4 Kokunai (supercram, Master Bush, Senfive, HoussamTheGreat)
1 trestain (Wisse)

7 Not Voting (reverend_kyle, trestain, Incandenza, vgmmaster, for dummies, Kokunai, Fircoal)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to Lynch!

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:24 am**

HoussamTheGreat wrote:For absence of even the slightest explanation

Vote Kokunai

Why so fast on the vote with no substance again Hos? Why aren't you grilling Trestain for still being alive? Why did you not vote for either canidate on the first 2 days but are willing to bandwagon on Kok? I agree that he doesn't post much, but what he did say about RD was suspicious. give him a chance to defend himself.

Why is everyone ignoring my spill about Trestain? So I was wrong about RD. Prove me Wrong with my accusation about Trestain.

autoload wrote:Vote Count:

10 Nyvek (Master Bush, Wisse, Kokunai, trestain, Roger Dodger, for dummies, P Gizzle, reverend_kyle, supercram, wicked)
1 reverend kyle (Nyvek)

2 No Lynch (Senfive, XenHu)

5 Not Voting (Fircoal, Incandenza, vgmmaster, HoussamTheGreat, onbekende)

After the sudden death of Machiavelli, the town falls into COMPLETE CHAOS. After much finger pointing and changes of opinion, one person seems to be picked on more than the others.

Nyvek, one of the newer less established members of the subdivision gets pointed out early and mob mentality takes over. A rope is quickly hung from a high tree branch and Nyvek's neck placed through. With nerves of steel Nyvek accepts his fate. Upon his death, a search of his pockets finds that his nerves of steel used to serve him well in his occupation as a surgeon.

Nyvek (Doctor) has been lynched!

It is now night phase and everyone with night choices has 48 hours to send them into me.

autoload wrote:Because of a misquote by supercram I had to adjust the final vote tally of Day 2.

Vote Count:

8 Roger Dodger (supercram, XenHu, trestain, for dummies, Master Bush, Secret Vote, P Gizzle, reverend_kyle)
2 Master Bush (Kokunai, Roger Dodger)
1 trestain (Wisse)
1 P Gizzle (Senfive)

4 Not Voting (vgmmasteri, HoussamTheGreat, Fircoal, Incandenza)

The subdivision, angry at losing it's residents, send out a powerful message. After a casual question towards Roger Dodger elicits an overreacted response the town grows suspicious. Roger Dodger quickly folds under the pressure and the town wastes no time in stringing her up on the same branch where Nyvek was hanged.

Roger Dodger Mafia! has been lynched!

It is now Night Phase and all those with night choices have 48 hours to send them in.

Why is it that Trestain was 4th when voting for the Doc, and 3rd then voting for RD. Easy Because he knew she was toast.

Another question is why did the same 4 people not vote at all during either lynching?

FOS vgmmasteri, HoussamTheGreat, Fircoal, Incandenza

Unvote Kokunai

Vote Trestain

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:34 am**

Vote Count:

3 Kokunai (supercram, Master Bush, HoussamTheGreat)
2 trestain (Wisse, Senfive)
1 reverend_kyle (XenHu)

7 Not Voting (reverend_kyle, trestain, Incandenza, vgmmaster, for dummies, Kokunai, Fircoal)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to Lynch!

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:36 am**

autoload wrote:
Vote Count:

8 Roger Dodger (supercram, XenHu, trestain, for dummies, Master Bush, Secret Vote, P Gizzle, reverend_kyle)
2 Master Bush (Kokunai, Roger Dodger)
1 trestain (Wisse)
1 P Gizzle (Senfive)

4 Not Voting (vgmmasteri, HoussamTheGreat, Fircoal, Incandenza)

Roger Dodger who we know is mafia and kokunai are both going for master bush an experienced player who i am pretty sure is pro-town. even though kokunai know that his Mafia buddy RD is going down he still holds with him for some reason, probably him being a newb. this is an obvious vote.

Vote: kokunai

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:37 am**

After that last post, I now dont trust Senfive at all

unvote Kokunai

vote senfive

I believe you are trying to get us to do your dirty work and kill off our remaining Doctor, even though I'm not 100% sure he is the Doctor. And you tried to save RD even though everything she did made her look like mafia. I find this weird, being that you have played this game a few times.

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:43 am**

Master Bush wrote:After that last post, I now dont trust Senfive at all

unvote Kokunai

vote senfive

I believe you are trying to get us to do your dirty work and kill off our remaining Doctor, even though I'm not 100% sure he is the Doctor. And you tried to save RD even though everything she did made her look like mafia. I find this weird, being that you have played this game a few times.

I said prove me wrong. I show evidence. You have shown none.

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