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Re: Fractured America [D] *V10.5* - pg.25
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:25 am
by jefjef
Neuvo Arizona. You have 7 tert connection again. ???????
Redrawing Minnesota tert & Grand Rapids tert so only one connects to Wisc might be worth looking at.
Missouri river crossing to Iowa I like having it.
Libertarian. Could you use a confederate gray shade?
Re: Fractured America [D] *V10.5* - pg.25
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:48 am
by isaiah40
jefjef wrote:Neuvo Arizona. You have 7 tert connection again. ???????
Redrawing Minnesota tert & Grand Rapids tert so only one connects to Wisc might be worth looking at.
Missouri river crossing to Iowa I like having it.
Libertarian. Could you use a confederate gray shade?
Libertarians color will be staying the same due to it would be too close to the Democrats color for our color blind friends.
New version changes:
- Extended Mississippi River to disconnect Minnesota from Wisconsin
- Disconnected Grassland from Montana
- Removed attack route from Missouri to Iowa
- Reduced Metis bonus from 4 to 3 due to the border realignment
- Added new mountain between Amarillo and CO so it is clear they don't connect
That are all the changes for now.
Version 10.6!
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Re: Fractured America [D] *V10.5* - pg.25
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:36 pm
by iancanton
now for my bonus recommendations, as promised.
let each bonus be no more than the number of regions in the zone (an exception is where a region is not adjacent to the others in the same bonus zone, but there are no such zones on this map now). this means reducing republicans and freemen to +4 each.
new england is better a +4 than a +5 because quebec can be held with it to produce a powerful 4-border combination.
when compared with libertarians and
classic asia, which are both +7, amexica is not worthy of +8, largely because of its relatively secluded position in the south. i'd rate it equal to canada, at +6.
captainwalrus wrote:I completely agree with splitting up Canada, they aren't really any more unified than us.
canada has already been split into 3 parts (4 including winnipeg)!
is there a bonus that can be called the easiest on the board? if there is a consensus that one exists, then there is room to reduce it to +2, otherwise all 4 of the small bonuses can remain at +3.
a count of the regions produces a total of 86. that means 6 capitals start neutral, not 7. the 7 capitals bonus can be raised to +5, since it's a difficult one to achieve quickly if only 8 are allocated randomly. the progression of the higher capital bonuses almost makes "hold all capitals" a gamewinning objective. nothing wrong with that!
ian.

Re: Fractured America [D] *V10.6* - pg.26
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:40 pm
by isaiah40
Okay as per ian's suggestions here is V10.7
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Re: Fractured America [D] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:45 pm
by jefjef
Neuvo Arizona. You have 7 tert connection.
That is a lot of weight to put on a single tert bordering 3 other bonus regions.
Re: Fractured America [D] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:50 pm
by isaiah40
jefjef wrote:Neuvo Arizona. You have 7 tert connection.
That is a lot of weight to put on a single tert bordering 3 other bonus regions.
Well since it is bordering 3 other bonuses, then it only has 4 connections not 7. 7 yes if you also count the territories in Amexica.
What suggestions do have to eliminate some of the connections?
Re: Fractured America [D] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:29 pm
by jefjef
Well I have always thought walls - concertina wire - mine fields and machine gun nests would be the answer in that part of the world.
How about a redrawing of Baja? Connect it to Oasis border.
Not a major thing I spose but sure puts a lot of value/pressure on that 1 tert.
Re: Fractured America [D] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:35 pm
by Evil DIMwit
isaiah40 wrote:jefjef wrote:Neuvo Arizona. You have 7 tert connection.
That is a lot of weight to put on a single tert bordering 3 other bonus regions.
Well since it is bordering 3 other bonuses, then it only has 4 connections not 7. 7 yes if you also count the territories in Amexica.
What suggestions do have to eliminate some of the connections?
I don't think you need to eliminate any of these. Nuevo Arizona is a very pivotal territory but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Re: Fractured America [D] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:35 pm
by soundman
Evil DIMwit wrote:isaiah40 wrote:jefjef wrote:Neuvo Arizona. You have 7 tert connection.
That is a lot of weight to put on a single tert bordering 3 other bonus regions.
Well since it is bordering 3 other bonuses, then it only has 4 connections not 7. 7 yes if you also count the territories in Amexica.
What suggestions do have to eliminate some of the connections?
I don't think you need to eliminate any of these. Nuevo Arizona is a very pivotal territory but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
I agree, leave it as it is.
Re: Fractured America [D] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:31 am
by isaiah40
soundman wrote:Evil DIMwit wrote:isaiah40 wrote:jefjef wrote:Neuvo Arizona. You have 7 tert connection.
That is a lot of weight to put on a single tert bordering 3 other bonus regions.
Well since it is bordering 3 other bonuses, then it only has 4 connections not 7. 7 yes if you also count the territories in Amexica.
What suggestions do have to eliminate some of the connections?
I don't think you need to eliminate any of these. Nuevo Arizona is a very pivotal territory but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
I agree, leave it as it is.
Yes it is going to stay as it is!
Re: Fractured America [D] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:26 pm
by mibi
the pastel colors and general softness of the map seem too pansy for the subject matter. you should take this map to the dark side.
Re: Fractured America [D] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:54 pm
by iancanton
since everyone is happy with the connections and bonuses, it's time to take this to the next level.

ian.

Re: Fractured America [D] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:52 pm
by isaiah40
iancanton wrote:since everyone is happy with the connections and bonuses, it's time to take this to the next level.

ian.

WOOT!!
Thank you everyone for helping me get this far!!
Re: Fractured America [D] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:59 pm
by soundman
Re: Fractured America [D, Gp] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:05 pm
by soundman
Now for the Graphics stamp.

I think the map's pretty close to that.
Re: Fractured America [D, Gp] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:07 pm
by isaiah40
soundman wrote:Now for the Graphics stamp.

I think the map's pretty close to that.
I'm hoping so!

Re: Fractured America [D, Gp] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:18 pm
by RedBaron0
grats!
You've got some tidying up to do and a small map to make. Check where your territory names are and make sure there isn't any blending together of a couple of letters and borders and such. It looks prevalent around Utah and the West Coast. You'll have to make sure army numbers when they get up to 3 digits aren't covering anything important on the map so you need to test your circles with "888's" and make the appropriate adjustments. Think about making your borders a bit thinner, the extra pixels of space will do wonders... don't be afraid to totally redraw your borders, yeah it'll be a pain and the ass, but the end result may look a million times better. Perhaps a better spidery, broken glass look that only can add to the theme. (Note just
redraw, not change to territory connections)
isaiah40 wrote:soundman wrote:Now for the Graphics stamp.

I think the map's pretty close to that.
I'm hoping so!


Re: Fractured America [D, Gp] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:02 pm
by isaiah40
Thank you everyone! I am out of country for a couple of days so my next revision will be posted probably this weekend. I have to play with it a little to obtain more space for the legend and instructions.
Thank you for your patience as I work hard to get a map you'll all like and play.
Re: Fractured America [D, Gp] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:22 pm
by natty dread
Hmm.. is the "freemen" territory a reference to freemasons?
If so, you should add the pyramid-with-the-eye symbol there...
Re: Fractured America [D, Gp] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:29 pm
by jefjef
natty_dread wrote:Hmm.. is the "freemen" territory a reference to freemasons?
If so, you should add the pyramid-with-the-eye symbol there...
It's a reference to "The Freeman" a Montana area patriot militia group.
Re: Fractured America [D, Gp] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:41 pm
by natty dread
Ah, ok.. ignore my ignorance then.
Although I do think the freemasons should be represented on this map.
Re: Fractured America [D, Gp] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:53 pm
by RedBaron0
ohhh, why didn't we think of that before... and considering the history of the Southern States; a Free Mason symbol instead of the Libertarians might not be a bad idea. It would be an aesthetic change totally up to you isaiah, at least think about it though.

Re: Fractured America [D, Gp] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:03 pm
by isaiah40
RedBaron0 wrote:ohhh, why didn't we think of that before... and considering the history of the Southern States; a Free Mason symbol instead of the Libertarians might not be a bad idea. It would be an aesthetic change totally up to you isaiah, at least think about it though.

Hmmm ... Could be done. We could take out The Outfit and insert Masons.
Well at least I can respond to these post with my phone, I just can't post my map

Post your thoughts and I'll think about it

Re: Fractured America [D, Gp] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:15 pm
by RedBaron0
Nah, not the outfit, the South is Masonic all the way.
Re: Fractured America [D, Gp] *V10.7* - pg.26
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:49 pm
by isaiah40
Well as I am able to get online via FREE wifi here in Regina Canada, I was able to post the latest version.
The small map has the color plus number in the circles. Tell me what you think!
Large
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Small with armies
