Conquer Club

kwanton wrote:

strike wolf wrote:Wow go Caitlyn...Joffrey was an ass. Wish I could see him get killed off in the show. Also go...Rob Stark? I think.

Also, I'm not the only one who congratulated catelyn.....

I was considerably satisfied with your first post, the "honest mistake" one in which you say you posted without reading Edoc taking dibs. I'm not really happy with your following post, the "Strike did it too". What did you want to accomplish with it?

By the way, the difference between both congratulations is that Strike's took place before Edocsil claimed the kill.

kwanton wrote:

strike wolf wrote:Wow go Caitlyn...Joffrey was an ass. Wish I could see him get killed off in the show. Also go...Rob Stark? I think.

Also, I'm not the only one who congratulated catelyn.....

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Ok anyone who was in the Unknown mafia game during Day 2 brace yourself. I'm in agreement with Rodion here. I don't see where there was a need to bring this up or why you want to point me out specifically. this seems a bit careless as the situation has changed a little bit and I don't see why you reacted as defensively as you did. The situation where I said it was dissimilar to yours where edoc in the latter case had already taken credit for the kill.

As far as what edoc mentioned. I have to agree as far as I don't know of anyone but Little Finger that could have been responsible. If this is the case this sounds similar to Naxus' role in Buffy (naxus was a third party chaos demon who could give one player the option to kill or roleblock someone else). It does seem through flavor though that Caitlyn/daze may have also targetted Chap for the kill (not hard to believe through chap having slipped up with the not being role blocked comment the day before).

I brought it up because it was relevant. Nowhere in rodion's initial question was edoc's post mentioned and he expressed absolutely no concern about that as you can see here:

Rodion wrote:

kwanton wrote:Heh. Good job catelyn stark. And we must have a great vig to have caught onto nag

I desperately need to reread this thread.

May I ask you why are you congratulating Catelyn/Daze?

Do you have any hidden knowledge?

His MAIN and ONLY concern that he stated was me having hidden knowledge. By showing that I was not the only one who congratulated catelyn, I show that I did not have any hidden knowledge. That is why I quoted you.

As to why I pointed you out specifically strike, it's because no one else besides you and me congratulated catelyn lol.

I mentioned edoc in my post because I thought that would have been the obvious thing to bring up and was surprised when rodion didn't.

And as to why it's split up between two posts, I meant to include strike's quote in my first post but forgot. I do this very, very often. Want proof? Check any of the games I'm in and count how many times I double post.

Oh whoops...could have sworn BG congratulated Caitlyn...my bad.

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I would say that's an exaggeration considering there was a post 2 days ago...I'm trying to reread myself but i'll agree on one thing...it's hard to be motivated about a game that is stagnating...

Yeah, there's really nothing new coming up.

I'm strongly considering pulling a safari and claiming just to get something going lol.

Hell, why not, go claim. I was in the middle of building a case against you and I would rather not waste my time if you have a nice solid claim.

Oh. Go for it. I'd rather defend myself and then claim. Get some pages and discussion up in here.

Analysis time! Hate to disappoint Kwanton but that action of yours temporarily disabled any scum vibes I was getting from you.

The players

Haggis
Mr. Squirrel
Pancake
Victor Sullivan Claimed Barristan Selmy, Town Dandy
Edocsil[/b] Claimed The Hound
bleed_green
kwanton
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rodion
strikewolf
btgthebrain

Known Roles. Littlefinger, King Robert Baratheon, Ned Stark, Arya Stark, Robb Stark, Jaime Lannister

Suspected roles. Jon Snow? Bran Stark? Daenerys Targaryen? Viserys Targaryen? Syrio Forel? Ser Ilyn Payne? Tywin Lannister?

D2 VC
jonty-8-edocsil, haggis, nagerous, strike, pancake, rodion, chapcrap, bgthebrain

D1 VC
safariguy-10- daze, talapus, chapcrap, bgthebrain, haggis, bleed, strikewolf, /, squirrel, jonty

bleed_green, Pancake and Victor Sullivan have not posted today. Major FOS, unacceptable this late in the game. / only posted to apologize for his inactivity, Smaller FOS on that regard.

bgthebrain, haggis and strikewolf are on both wagons, Minor FOS. Not particularly damning, but scum have tendencies to toss their vote in for a lynch. bgthebrain however follows Chaps vote shortly after he has voted. I am guessing scum partner. Vote bgthebrain

Not exactly what you would call a rock solid case, but hey it's better then anything else we have seen yet this game.

Iliad: I've decided to ignore the events on the Wall and across the Narrow sea, focusing primarily on Westeros.

So the Targaryens are out of the picture and Jon Snow may be unlikely as he was at the wall the vast majority of the series. I imagine Tywin Lannister is the Godfather (there aren't any other significant Lannisters in the series beyond Jaime left alive and Jaime doesn't at least in my opinion fit the godfather flavor in this series). I believe I already gave an FOS on BG for the hammer coming a bit early and I know he gave a reason for it but I need to review a bit before I come to a complete thought on the vote.

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Post your case against me anyway edoc.

Bleed_Green wrote:Saf, I think everyone can see how beneficial you possibly could be to the town however there is a lot that can happen that you could be the main cause for the town demise, with the ability to pick and choose who gets what information. Do you also have the ability to be recruited?

Just one thing I noticed while rereading. Why did you ask this and what made you think there was a recruiter at all? Still in the middle of analyzing, this just caught my eye.

kwanton wrote:

Bleed_Green wrote:Saf, I think everyone can see how beneficial you possibly could be to the town however there is a lot that can happen that you could be the main cause for the town demise, with the ability to pick and choose who gets what information. Do you also have the ability to be recruited?

Just one thing I noticed while rereading. Why did you ask this and what made you think there was a recruiter at all? Still in the middle of analyzing, this just caught my eye.

Sorry I have been busy the last couple days with work and I keep rereading but I have a hard time to point anything out right now especially on D2. I think if Jonty had a better time in explaining himself on how he believed the queen was a roleblocker instead of screwing up that post we would have been in a better place. But because of that slip it was easy for the mafia to cast a vote on just stating how he would know the queens role or it was to convenient that he would also have roleblocking abilities. I am going to have to reread it and hopefully something will pop out on what someone said to cast there vote on him. It happened way to fast.

Kwanton, I was just trying to see how vulnerable he would be to keep around, if he had the ability to be recruited to one side or the other he would then have great ability to push one side a head. I wanted to make sure I had the full scope of his role prior to casting a vote for him cause I seen the benefits that he possessed for the town and but also the detrimental knowledge that he could lead mafia to a victory

edocsil wrote:Suspected roles. Jon Snow? nope Bran Stark? probably Daenerys Targaryen? nope Viserys Targaryen? nope Syrio Forel? highly unlikely Ser Ilyn Payne? probably Tywin Lannister? probably

edocsil wrote:Victor Sullivan have not posted today

Now THIS is strange. I've never known victor to be quiet in any game. Huge FOS there.

BGtheBrain wrote:Guess Ill go back to sitting in silence. Trying to get anything going draws me a vote

The vote has nothing to do with you bumping the game. Please respond to the accusation rather than make joke of it.

Regarding my inactivity: Nothing to go on, nothing to add. At least, up to this point.

Not sure on the follow-the-leader case on BG. Possible only because BG is inexperienced, and I don't find it 100% viable even then.

I find bleed's explanation acceptable, but I don't think there are recruitment mechanics here. That would really screw everything up and not exactly fit the intrigue theme in this game.

^^ Yep, exactly my reasoning PCM. Recruiter role just seemed far-fetched given the game. I was just wondering if Bleed had some reason to think there was one or just threw it out there.

I'm pretty convinced that Rodion is town at this point based on my rereading and the tone of his posts. I swear Rodion if I'm wrong about this for the THIRD time in a row I'm deadbeating all my games and quitting mafia for good lol.

Edoc, I eagerly await your case on me. I know it's weird that I'm pushing someone to present a case against me but it will help my analyzation of past posts. Revealing how will probably skew it though. Anyway, you said you were 50% done already so no point letting that go to waste lol.

@Kwanton More like 25% done, fact checking proved it to be inadequate. It was mostly to stimulate conversation and I think posting it now would distract from my current case.

Mr. Squirrel wrote:

edocsil wrote:Suspected roles. Jon Snow? nope Bran Stark? probably Daenerys Targaryen? nope Viserys Targaryen? nope Syrio Forel? highly unlikely Ser Ilyn Payne? probably Tywin Lannister? probably

Perhaps possible roles would be better then suspected. I do disagree on Syrio Forel, but perhaps the books cast a lesser light on him.

NOM NOM NOM, I eat your fingers of suspicion! I haven't really had much to say... I've already claimed, so I didn't feel particularly obligated to post a "Hey, guys, what's up?"

I can't quite put my finger on it, but Bleed_Green seems scummy to me... Not entirely convinced about the BG 'case', if you want to call it that, but I can't say it doesn't have merit.

-Sully

edocsil wrote:@Kwanton More like 25% done, fact checking proved it to be inadequate. It was mostly to stimulate conversation and I think posting it now would distract from my current case.

Mr. Squirrel wrote:

edocsil wrote:Suspected roles. Jon Snow? nope Bran Stark? probably Daenerys Targaryen? nope Viserys Targaryen? nope Syrio Forel? highly unlikely Ser Ilyn Payne? probably Tywin Lannister? probably

Perhaps possible roles would be better then suspected. I do disagree on Syrio Forel, but perhaps the books cast a lesser light on him.

I've narrowed your role name down to one of two possibilities. That case would have helped me figure it out definitively. Dammit....

I'm not revealing what I think for the obvious reason of possibly given the wrong people info.

Obviously one of them is the hound lol if that wasn't clear. But I'm not sure I 100% believe it...

kwanton wrote:Obviously one of them is the hound lol if that wasn't clear. But I'm not sure I 100% believe it...

Please elaborate. The Hound appeared on flavour twice already and he was not counterclaimed.

Rodion wrote:

kwanton wrote:Obviously one of them is the hound lol if that wasn't clear. But I'm not sure I 100% believe it...

Please elaborate. The Hound appeared on flavour twice already and he was not counterclaimed.

I'm kind of agreeing with rody here. the hound has pretty much been confirmed as a role in the game through scene flavor and no one has counter-claimed edoc as the hound. I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion he might not be the hound but I'm willing to listen.