Conquer Club

nah bruvz, I still finkz iz dat we lynchz him den hez savez uz.

so bitchez votez justinz

TheSaxlad wrote:nah bruvz, I still finkz iz dat we lynchz him den hez savez uz.

so bitchez votez justinz

No! What are you doing? We are at like L-1 or something just as crazy. STOP!

Unvote, ffs.

Let's think this through. What I am about to post might have little value, and it's a long shot.
Commander has pointed out there is a big story behind this. Clues to be found, etc...

Now we have a person who wants to die. Even for a noob his actions are just over the top.
What IF he is a special role, that needs to die in order to become something more powerfull? You guys already agreed that this is possible.

I found this in Commanders story on P1:

Or will humanity crumble and something new, stronger will emerge from ruins of the Earth...

What IF he needs to die in order to become something new, stronger?
One thing is for sure: there is much more to this game then meets the eye.
I advice caution, therefore the unvote, though I would so badly wanna lynch the guy.

I won't call this EBWOP'ing, don't wanna get herky on his horse.
But if you think about it, how likely is it that a Third Party might emerge by the death of Justin?

I think it's a long shot, but it (kinda) makes sense in the storyline. Humanity finding a way to save itself, or something.

However if that's the case, it won't matter much. He's probably dead by the next day anyway. I'm gonna dig into the story a little deeper for now.

To me that sounds third party or mafia though. Town would surely be humanity and we don't want town to crumble. I take your point about lynch effects, I just don't think that quote is for a pro-town solution.

I'd like to hear justin actually answer about whether he has a post-lynch effect, preferably before we mention one that he likes the sound of and mentions

... and you've just fastposted me that's exactly how I'd see that happening

I'm even worried that he could be scum who gets more powerful upon an attempted lynch...

I really don't understand you, guys. You are so undetermined. DO SOMETHING!!!

Justinassss wrote:I really don't understand you, guys. You are so undetermined. DO SOMETHING!!!

One last time: YOU DO SOMETHING.
We've been asking page after page for you to claim.
Give us a full roll claim, or be lynched.

But I guess you don't mind being lynched at this point...
Would it be a difference to him if he is lynched, or shot at night? Maybe his objective is specifically to get lynched, as getting killed at night won't do him good.

Let's see if I can summarize this:

Hey guys! I think night 0 is not of much importance. Do not worry about it now. A real game will begin later on.

An early tell on his role? Not much importance in this.

I suggest everyone should vote for Fuzzylogic99. It is obvious.

Albeit there is a case on Fuzzy, not much contribution to it. Could be a noob tell.

Vote: Fuzzy Logic

He only votes for the person he finds obvious 2 days after casting suspiscion
Suspicious at least.

I don't know I am new in Mafia games. I just want some action

Again, not much in there for the rest of us to go on.

I am just very sorry about all of you that decided to lynch me... I have no secret agenda, I am just a good sincere loving person who wants to enjoy playing Mafia games... Thank you for offending me...

This is his reply when we asked him for an explanation of his actions. Nothing but a rant with no value to the game.

I have never seen such a qruel mafia person in my life... Now everybody knows you belong to mafia

After his last post I asked him AGAIN to give a satisfying explanation of his actions. AGAIN nothing, but trying to dodge the question.

Sorry about my quick comments. I was really wrong doing this. In the next few hours I will think of my previous activity and explain you everything.

Sorry, again...

At long last, it looks like he comes to his senses, and I awaited his response.

Yes, I am a Jester

Unfortunately, this is his 'I will explain everything' answer.
Mind that he only mentioned the jester part AFTER other players brought it up.

I am a Jester. I am not joking. My aim was to get killed in the first round to win the game. Otherwise I have no chances to survive in this Appocalyptic world. This is my real UNFAKE backgorund.

Finally he gives us a story. Sort of. It would be if he hadn't LITERALLY mentioned the underlined part.
I am pretty confident we were all given a name and roll, with background story. He mentioned nothing of this, what pushes me to believing it's a fake claim.

UNVOTE VOTE Haggis_McMutton

juokinga

A very usefull post for someone on the edge of a lynch. I think we are kinda over the joke vote stage at this point.

Step by step I am going towards the victory!

This is beyond me. Is he that big of a noob, really? Even if it's your goal to get killed, pointing it out like this is just, well, you know what I mean.

I really don't understand you, guys. You are so undetermined. DO SOMETHING!!!

His last post, yet again dodging the role claim, with no value to his post.

Are we absolutely sure we don't wanna lynch him?
I want to see him gone, but I don't wanna jump the gun either. I've read the pro's and con's of lynching him, so I will post this and let it sink in.

I'll wait for input from the other players, or maybe a miracle might happen and Justin provides us with some actual information on his character.

Hasn't anyone noticed that justin has not been defending himself at all, instead letting others do the job for him? If justin is scum as I suspect, we should definitely look at some of the people creating a defense and speculating on literally nothing.
He was inexperienced and found himself under pressure and didn't know what to do.

Justinassss wrote:Sorry about my quick comments. I was really wrong doing this. In the next few hours I will think of my previous activity and explain you everything.

That right there is him admitting that he had to think up his claim and to explain away his actions. Luckily others, perhaps scummates who noticed that he was a noob and couldn't fake claim properly, filled in with the speculation about a jester.

theherkman wrote:I don't think he is a jester. The only way I can reason what he is doing is if he becomes mafia from a lynch. I mean what new player doesn't want to be scum? I know I do. But maybe he doesn't know enough to realize he would need to play that role a little more on the DL. I don't know, maybe I am going about this wrong. If I am right I wish I could have his role so I could have done it right. =D

theherkman wrote:I'm even worried that he could be scum who gets more powerful upon an attempted lynch...

We don't know anything about his role. He is probably 3rd party and seems impatient.

I'm tired of others speculating and essentially bluffing for him and I want to hear from him.

Also: we seem to be stuck in a permanent state where justin is at -2. The moment someone votes another person unvotes or vice versa.

I'll wait for input from the other players, or maybe a miracle might happen and Justin provides us with some actual information on his character.

I am fed up with your same reasoning again and again. You have written a very long post to claim you don't know nothing. And you are still waiting for my mystical explanation about I don't know what. Listen all:

I have my tactics. I know what I am doing. I know my role. I CAN'T REVEAL IT TO YOU, SO DO NOT WAIT FOR THIS!!!!! The game wouldn't be interesting, then. How could I play with you if you know who I am???????

So, the only thing I suggest is to try to find someone else to lynch.

From my previous game and analysis I have recently done, I am concluding this:

Unvote VOTE STEAKER - because you are the most concerned about my unrevealed role and you look the most suspicious and afraid of me. This is my final vote for Day1. My job on Day1 is done. Now everything is up to you.

Justinassss wrote:

I'll wait for input from the other players, or maybe a miracle might happen and Justin provides us with some actual information on his character.

I am fed up with your same reasoning again and again. You have written a very long post to claim you don't know nothing. And you are still waiting for my mystical explanation about I don't know what. Listen all:

I have my tactics. I know what I am doing. I know my role. I CAN'T REVEAL IT TO YOU, SO DO NOT WAIT FOR THIS!!!!! The game wouldn't be interesting, then. How could I play with you if you know who I am???????

So, the only thing I suggest is to try to find someone else to lynch.

From my previous game and analysis I have recently done, I am concluding this:

Unvote VOTE STEAKER - because you are the most concerned about my unrevealed role and you look the most suspicious and afraid of me. This is my final vote for Day1. My job on Day1 is done. Now everything is up to you.

All I did was SUMMARIZE the case against you. I clearly stated that at the beginning of my post.
So now you admit to a false name claiming also. I underlined that part.
You are right. I'm scared of your role, as i think it might be something powerfull. How is that suspicious?

To use your own words: i'm fed up with you and your dodging questions, and false claims. It has become obvious with your last post that we cannot trust you with anything you say.

I'm seriously considering putting you on L-1 again...

Justinassss wrote:

I'll wait for input from the other players, or maybe a miracle might happen and Justin provides us with some actual information on his character.

I am fed up with your same reasoning again and again. You have written a very long post to claim you don't know nothing. And you are still waiting for my mystical explanation about I don't know what. Listen all:

I have my tactics. I know what I am doing. I know my role. I CAN'T REVEAL IT TO YOU, SO DO NOT WAIT FOR THIS!!!!! The game wouldn't be interesting, then. How could I play with you if you know who I am???????

So, the only thing I suggest is to try to find someone else to lynch.

From my previous game and analysis I have recently done, I am concluding this:

Unvote VOTE STEAKER - because you are the most concerned about my unrevealed role and you look the most suspicious and afraid of me. This is my final vote for Day1. My job on Day1 is done. Now everything is up to you.

This should put the nail into your coffin.
Firstly have you ever played mafia before? Yes you do claim before you are lynched. Unless you have an actual restriction from claiming.

I don't think he even truthfully claimed jester and this should be enough to lynch him.

The question is: can a new player be that good, or is he really that bad?

If Justin really is that good he managed to drop enough small scumtells to get himself noticed and not just written off as a noob early on, then he made a vague claim with two votes (iirc) on him and told us the truth (or a version of it) about him being a jester after the bandwagon started, but in such a way that noone would believe it. If he really is that good he has managed to confuse everyone else to the point where he can count on getting lynched just because more than half of the players want to make him stop.

Noone can be that good. Noone.

This only leaves the second option, he really is that bad and screwed up as badly as a player can.

Justinassss"I am fed up with your same reasoning again and again. You have written a very long post to claim you don't know nothing. And you are still waiting for my mystical explanation about I don't know what. Listen all[/quote]
Then defend yourself instead of saying, with a gun at your head, "I'm not town, but I'm key to your survival"

[quote="Justinassss wrote:I have my tactics. I know what I am doing. I know my role.

Well then, you sir, suck at playing mafia.

Justinassss wrote:I CAN'T REVEAL IT TO YOU, SO DO NOT WAIT FOR THIS!!!!! The game wouldn't be interesting, then. How could I play with you if you know who I am???????

Because we a-Oh my God, Noooo. I can already imagine the amount of ammo I will have to buy for my .357. I can imagine the piles of targets full of holes out next to my garbage can. Let's make a deal right now Justin. If you claim and stop acting nooby. I will not lynch you.

Ah epic failure on my part #o

Lynching votes:

TG (1) - /
Commander9 (1) - Vioiet
Skoffin (1) - herk
SafariGuy (1) - Fuzzy Logic.
Justinas (9) - safariguy5, Aage, MeDeFe, Campin_Killer,Edocsil,Tg, Iliad, Thez, Saxlad -2
Streaker (1) - Justinas

11votes for lynching.

Looking for a replacement.

P.S. Iliad, don't forget to bold the votes.

I think hes bluffing hoping that we wont lynch him bc we are too scared he the Jester.I m going to take the chance bc I think the whole thing is a game and I think he is lying

Unvote Vote Justin

Fuzzylogic99 wrote:I think hes bluffing hoping that we wont lynch him bc we are too scared he the Jester.I m going to take the chance bc I think the whole thing is a game and I think he is lying

Unvote Vote Justin

You are wrong. You are so wrong about that. In order not to be lynched I could be inactive as several players in our game are. I am sure I wouldn't have any votes on me if I was totally inactive. Therefore, implementing all my tactics had the aim. And I have already shown to you the result with justification as you had been waiting for, i.e. Vote Steaker. I haven't made any short unjustified announcements after this.
Have you all already changed your minds? Everything you had needed before was just my movement with justification. I did it. What do you want now?

Justinassss wrote:

Fuzzylogic99 wrote:I think hes bluffing hoping that we wont lynch him bc we are too scared he the Jester.I m going to take the chance bc I think the whole thing is a game and I think he is lying

Unvote Vote Justin

You are wrong. You are so wrong about that. In order not to be lynched I could be inactive as several players in our game are. I am sure I wouldn't have any votes on me if I was totally inactive. Therefore, implementing all my tactics had the aim. And I have already shown to you the result with justification as you had been waiting for, i.e. Vote Steaker. I haven't made any short unjustified announcements after this.
Have you all already changed your minds? Everything you had needed before was just my movement with justification. I did it. What do you want now?

If you'd been 100% inactive you'd have been replaced

No I think you started to get bandwagoned and you used the Jester thing to stop from being lynched. Fear psychology.You seem to be pretty good at it As far as we know you might have the ability to stop from getting night killed or you might have a role where you can only die by lynching.I honestly believe you are not a jester and you are just trying to save your own skin

if you were the jester why announce it since it would keep you from getting lynched which is the opposite you claim you want
I honestly think you are scum

If you were a jester you would've voted for yourself. You're L-1.

Somebody hammer him.

-Tails

dont think you can vote for yourself

Yeah you can. But I don't think we should kill him... I'm leaning away from actual jester, but why not let someone NK him just to be safe!