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Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:31 pm
by mandalorian2298
Anarkistsdream wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
Clive wrote:I'm guessing Flores is your kill Mandy?


Why do you ask? Have you killed someone who is not Flores? vote Clive



I believe he is just trying to ensure there is no Bus Driver or something in this game, or that a Doctor did not protect the person whom you did choose...

A little defensive there, Mandalorian?


Asking would be understandable. Guessing makes me suspicious. A little protective there, Nark? ;)

Selin wrote:To questions to two players:

1) To mandy who claimed to be a vig: who did you target last night?

2) To Iliad, who claimed to be inventor/doctor: what action did you do and on whom?

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Er, this is kind of embaressing, but I targeted you. :oops: It was because of this post.

Selin wrote:Although I don't believe that pancake is scum (as explained before), we need a lynch to have clues for further rounds.

Unvote: dano

Vote: pancake


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I always find it suspicious when people say that they don't believe that person, who is about to get lynched, is scum and then proceed to join the bandwagon (especially when the lynchee turns out to be pro-Town). So, I decided to take a stab and try to eliminate you, since I know that you are hard to lynch (as has been proven in the 'Alen-a-Dale affair' ;) ) This way I can save the crazy theories which no one is going to believe for my own personal executions and use the totally believable theories (as is the theory about Clive being scum) for the public forum. Twice the killing, twice the fun. :twisted:

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:34 pm
by ga7
I won't have much time to post as much as I would like in this game for the next few days, but a question comes to mind: what did you do Illy?

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:12 pm
by Clive
mandalorian2298 wrote:
Clive wrote:I'm guessing Flores is your kill Mandy?


Why do you ask? Have you killed someone who is not Flores? vote Clive


Because the method in which Flores was killed is the method I would expect from a vig.

The fact that you didn't kill any of the dead is a bit odd, but as someone mentioned, there are roles that can affect things like that...

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:53 pm
by militant
Core blimey, 3 kills O_o

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:07 pm
by Clive
militant wrote:Core blimey, 3 kills O_o


For a game of this size, I don't find it surprising.

1 Mafia kill (Killed)
1 3rd party serial killer type role (Slain)
1 Vig (Shot)

Although thinking about, the shot and killed things could go the other way round. I would be surprised to see any more than 3 killing parties, though.

With Mandy claiming Vig, I figured there's a good chance of him being SK, but with him (claiming) target on Selin, it doesn't really tell us anything. The fact he made it through the night makes it less likely he's SK imo, though.

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:56 pm
by /
Your theory sounds good, though, from The Writer's scene and character, I believe he likely has a "lyncher" type of role, seeking out specific characters to get rid of his problems.
This may mean the third kill was from a serial killer, and Mandy (the vig) was blocked. (or the other way around, since we don't have much to go on.)

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:08 am
by Iliad
ga7 wrote:I won't have much time to post as much as I would like in this game for the next few days, but a question comes to mind: what did you do Illy?

I protected AD. He claimed yesterday and though his elusive claim was scummy I decided it would be good if he did in fact survived.


Btw I may also not be able to post as much due to parents :evil:

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:26 am
by Selin
mandalorian2298 wrote:
Selin wrote:Although I don't believe that pancake is scum (as explained before), we need a lynch to have clues for further rounds.

Unvote: dano

Vote: pancake


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I always find it suspicious when people say that they don't believe that person, who is about to get lynched, is scum and then proceed to join the bandwagon (especially when the lynchee turns out to be pro-Town). So, I decided to take a stab and try to eliminate you, since I know that you are hard to lynch (as has been proven in the 'Alen-a-Dale affair' ;) ) This way I can save the crazy theories which no one is going to believe for my own personal executions and use the totally believable theories (as is the theory about Clive being scum) for the public forum. Twice the killing, twice the fun. :twisted:


If you hadn't skimmed my earlier analysis about pancake, you could have been right. [-X

Here is it once again:

Selin wrote:
Sierra_Leon wrote:
Selin wrote:Regarding pancake there are two options in my opinion:

1) pancake is townie
2) both pancake and mandy are scum

Most probably the first option is true.

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It would be helpful if you explained how you came to these two options.


Mandy is a very experienced good player. During the bandwagon of him, we reached a state where he was at lynch -2. Pancake was online at that time, he even made a post stating that mandy was at lynch -2, but didn't vote him.
a) If pancake had been scum/cult and mandy had been town, in my opinion he wouldn't have missed the opportunity to get rid of a good town player and voted mandy hoping that someone would drop the hammer.
b) If pancake had been townie and had no idea about what fraction mandy can be, he would have tended not to vote mandy in order not to loose a potential experienced townia.
c) If pancake and mandy had been both scum, he again wouldn't have voted mandy not to loose a scum partner.

When I made a search in google about mandy's role being Hundriah, I could only find 3 results, only 3 :!:
And one of them was mandy's post itself. The other two came from the same resource and Hundriah's name was mentioned there only in one line. This lead me to the conclusion that mandy made either a super fake claim (congrats to him in this case) or told the truth about his characters name at least. Therefore I believe that mandy is not scum (he may be a townie, cultie or neutral). In this case option c is not valid anymore and the probability that pancake is townie is significantly higher than the probability that he is scum.

Regarding mandy, we will have more clues during later phases and we will have the possibility to check whether or not he told the truth regarding to his role and sanity. He haven't answered my question yet. I wanted to know, if he is a day vig or a night vig.

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Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:00 am
by Skittles!
VOTE COUNT

Clive (1) - Mandalorian2298

Need to prod some people, possibly replace.

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:41 am
by jnd94
Hrm......don't have too many ideas on what you guys have come up with now, but will be back in a a lil bit hopefully with something to say. :(

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:36 am
by ga7
Iliad wrote:
ga7 wrote:I won't have much time to post as much as I would like in this game for the next few days, but a question comes to mind: what did you do Illy?

I protected AD. He claimed yesterday and though his elusive claim was scummy I decided it would be good if he did in fact survived.


Btw I may also not be able to post as much due to parents :evil:

Ok. Vote Selin [Wilhelm Ryan - Mafia Godfather]

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;) :lol:

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:33 pm
by mandalorian2298
ga7 wrote:
Iliad wrote:
ga7 wrote:I won't have much time to post as much as I would like in this game for the next few days, but a question comes to mind: what did you do Illy?

I protected AD. He claimed yesterday and though his elusive claim was scummy I decided it would be good if he did in fact survived.


Btw I may also not be able to post as much due to parents :evil:

Ok. Vote Selin [Wilhelm Ryan - Mafia Godfather]

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;) :lol:


Er, is this some kind of an inside joke or have I been proven right yet again? 8-)

Clive wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
Clive wrote:I'm guessing Flores is your kill Mandy?


Why do you ask? Have you killed someone who is not Flores? vote Clive


Because the method in which Flores was killed is the method I would expect from a vig.

The fact that you didn't kill any of the dead is a bit odd, but as someone mentioned, there are roles that can affect things like that...


So, you are either lying and am right about you being Scum, or you are actually n00bish enough to believe that Day Scenes are a realistic description of night actions. Either way, tsk, tsk Iliad. [-X

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:48 pm
by jnd94
I do agrre with Mandy on this. looks like Clive messed up and is trying to dig himself out of a a growing ditch.

Vote Clive

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:21 pm
by Anarkistsdream
GA7... Is that really the Selins role?

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:46 pm
by Selin
It was very interesting for me to see that neither the claimed town vig, nor the claimed town doctor was killed last night. Actually both should have been top priority targets of scum. Do we have a really noob scum team or are mandy and iliad lying? If someone has information about what they did last night, this might be important to detect, if they told the truth with their claims and night target choices.

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Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:41 am
by Iliad
mandalorian2298 wrote:
ga7 wrote:
Iliad wrote:
ga7 wrote:I won't have much time to post as much as I would like in this game for the next few days, but a question comes to mind: what did you do Illy?

I protected AD. He claimed yesterday and though his elusive claim was scummy I decided it would be good if he did in fact survived.


Btw I may also not be able to post as much due to parents :evil:

Ok. Vote Selin [Wilhelm Ryan - Mafia Godfather]

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;) :lol:


Er, is this some kind of an inside joke or have I been proven right yet again? 8-)

Clive wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
Clive wrote:I'm guessing Flores is your kill Mandy?


Why do you ask? Have you killed someone who is not Flores? vote Clive


Because the method in which Flores was killed is the method I would expect from a vig.

The fact that you didn't kill any of the dead is a bit odd, but as someone mentioned, there are roles that can affect things like that...


So, you are either lying and am right about you being Scum, or you are actually n00bish enough to believe that Day Scenes are a realistic description of night actions. Either way, tsk, tsk Iliad. [-X
Don't you mean clive? Otherwise I'm very confused

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:15 am
by mandalorian2298
Lol. I do mean Clive. :lol:
Sorry Illiad. :oops:

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:10 pm
by Selin
mandalorian2298 wrote:Lol. I do mean Clive. :lol:
Sorry Illiad. :oops:


Another slip...

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Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:53 pm
by Clive
So, you are either lying and am right about you being Scum, or you are actually n00bish enough to believe that Day Scenes are a realistic description of night actions. Either way, tsk, tsk Iliad.


Um, what??

Yes, they do, that's the way i've always known it. If there was no such flavour in night scenes then all kills would share the same method, probably "killed".

Jnd's vote on me looks very crap.

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:11 pm
by Anarkistsdream
Selin, you breezed through a role accusation without saying shit... Any reason why?

Vote Selin

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:37 am
by Selin
Anarkistsdream wrote:Selin, you breezed through a role accusation without saying shit... Any reason why?

Vote Selin


You should have known why.

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Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:01 am
by jnd94
Selin wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:Selin, you breezed through a role accusation without saying shit... Any reason why?

Vote Selin


You should have known why.

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:?

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:00 am
by Anarkistsdream
Selin wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:Selin, you breezed through a role accusation without saying shit... Any reason why?

Vote Selin


You should have known why.

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Allowing people to make assumptions in a game like mafia is not very intelligent, and rarely benefits those that allow them.

Please be more specific.

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:55 pm
by mandalorian2298
GA7, IF YOU DON'T EXPLAIN YOUR CLAIM ABOUT SELIN WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS, I WILL HAVE TO ASSUME THAT YOU ARE JUST SCUM STIRRING TROUBLE.

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:09 pm
by militant
mandalorian2298 wrote:GA7, IF YOU DON'T EXPLAIN YOUR CLAIM ABOUT SELIN WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS, I WILL HAVE TO ASSUME THAT YOU ARE JUST SCUM STIRRING TROUBLE.


ga7 and flores are out on holiday I presume, they asked me to sit there fery few games for them which I am doing currently, not verywell though :? Sorry Flores, so Yes, I tink they will be back by the weekend although not totally sure

:geek: