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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:17 pm
by Qwert
by Sir. Ricco on Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:08 am
Yes it looks good. Small, is a little cramped, but its still looks good.
Well its cramped,but people can se good terittories names and borders,and these is original to Western and Eastern front map,so these help a loth.
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:28 pm
by edbeard
nicely done qwert!
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:41 pm
by Kaplowitz
Can you merge Sigfried Defense into one territory and give it a bonus of one? It would still have same effect, but it would be a LOT easier to read on the small map.
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:51 pm
by Qwert
by Kaplowitz on Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:41 am
Can you merge Sigfried Defense into one territory and give it a bonus of one? It would still have same effect, but it would be a LOT easier to read on the small map.
Aim not quit understand what you mean?
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:52 pm
by Kaplowitz
I think you should make all of Sigfried Defense into one territory, and let it have +1
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 7:25 pm
by t-o-m
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 7:28 pm
by t-o-m
theres lots of room to expand upward
i made the actual map bigger aswel
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 7:50 pm
by seamusk
I like qwert's version. And please do not merge the siegmond defense.
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 7:58 pm
by t-o-m
qwerts is hardly readble - however i had so much space on mine that i made the amry circles 24px X 24px - so 2px to spare!
AND there is potencial for more room upward on all version - which would open upa lot of space i think
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 8:02 pm
by gimil
qwerts with all the extra px height space you have you could probably stretch the land a fair bit to get more space. May be a little skewed but I don't see that as a problem.
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 8:14 pm
by t-o-m
i dont think my version is too bad - you can make it a lot bigger by rotating and extending more...
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 8:17 pm
by edbeard
qwert's is fine considering the restrictions.
yours hides the extra box for siegfried defence and the army circle in the Mediterranean
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 8:25 pm
by t-o-m
mine was done very quickly - and there is loads of room for other things, im not too bothered what happens as long as sometihng works out
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 11:03 pm
by seamusk
yeah. i should say that t-o-m's map introduces some ideas. I didn't like how you split the continent bonus boxes per se. But that could probably done neater with more time to work on it. I realize that I may have unintentionally sounded negative about that. In any case, this map does benefit from the fact that 2/3 of it or so is on other maps and folks who have played those other maps will come in fairly well informed on those areas.
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:11 am
by Qwert
by Kaplowitz on Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:52 am
I think you should make all of Sigfried Defense into one territory, and let it have +1
These is not possible,because i will broke several Gameplay rules and most importan is bombardment of british,also in that way these map will not be indentical to WWII WESTERN FRONT.
Tom,yours experiment its not helpful,map its look weird,many teritories is dispearse,army Circle is Very Big,and you dont put any names on map.
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by t-o-m on Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:58 am
qwerts is hardly readble - however i had so much space on mine that i made the amry circles 24px X 24px - so 2px to spare!
AND there is potencial for more room upward on all version - which would open upa lot of space i think
I think its nice readabile,and also you can not put so big army circle on map.Belive me if you want,but if i Stretch map then these will be very bad,and a lot people will say"its a bad,and dont look like Western or Eastern Front map"If you put names in yours experiment,you will se that these not good.And like Edbeard say,you Cut Sigfried box,and also some terittoires mising-Karelia,leningrad,western TF,and many terittoires is cut to.
But its good to se that someon want to help presenting ideas,and sometime these can be helpful.
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:58 am
by Joodoo
I saw the number 88 in one of the versions and it was somewhere on the list of territories? So does that mean that this map has 88 territories?
Some other things I wanna mention:
Is the Western Task Force going to be a sea territory because there's no naval route there?
How will Britain be attacked from mainland Europe?
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:51 am
by Qwert
by Joodoo on Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:58 pm
I saw the number 88 in one of the versions and it was somewhere on the list of territories? So does that mean that this map has 88 territories?
Some other things I wanna mention:
Is the Western Task Force going to be a sea territory because there's no naval route there?
How will Britain be attacked from mainland Europe?
It will have over 100 terotories.Are you give comment for TOM vision of map?
Here is original map,and you can see where is WTForce,and which terittories bombard Britain,its a same like quenched map WWII WESTERN FRONT.
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:21 am
by Joodoo
oh okay, because on some versions of the map I don't see routes for the Western Task Force and I don't see any missile symbols.
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:51 pm
by Qwert
No problem Joodoo
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:09 pm
by The Viking
Would it be any better if in the XML, territory names would begin with the cont. they're in, for example M. Brand would be Britain: M. Brand?
Also, I think the von Leeb Army and von Bock Army colours are way too similar.
And I can't figure out what I gain from holding Berlin?
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:21 am
by Qwert
by The Viking on Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:09 am
Would it be any better if in the XML, territory names would begin with the cont. they're in, for example M. Brand would be Britain: M. Brand?
Also, I think the von Leeb Army and von Bock Army colours are way too similar.
And I can't figure out what I gain from holding Berlin?
If these map get chance to move forward,Xml Code will be like these.
Example:
L-Leipzig
Brad-Bradley
Mil-Milano
L.A.-Ligurian Army
W.T.F-Western Task Force
Konig.-Konigsberg
Ku-Kursk
Smo-Smolensk
Sar-Sarema
Belo-Belostok
Colours of these two country its not similar,its original colours from Eastern Front(all Colours from Western Front and Eastern Front its original colours from release maps)
Bonus box is also original from these two quenched maps,and you can se on helmet Bonus number. Ofcourse some numbers mising,but these is for future work,when map get permision.
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:09 pm
by TaCktiX
qwert wrote:W.T.F-Western Task Force
Sorry, I just have to laugh at that acronym.
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:08 am
by Qwert
by TaCktiX on Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:09 am
qwert wrote:
W.T.F-Western Task Force
Sorry, I just have to laugh at that acronym.
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:12 am
by hulmey
What The Fuck
Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:02 am
by Qwert
Well i must say that for me better sound Western Task Force.
