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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:51 am
by jusplay4fun
saxitoxin wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Today, for the first time in 7 years, there is no fighting in Donbas. Russia has brought an end to the conflict, just like it promised two weeks ago.
Easy enough to end something that you are orchestrating. Nobody ever doubted that the separatist thugs in the Donbass were on the KGB payroll.
"Oh look, we'll stop committing the crimes we've been committing for seven years! Aren't we little angels?"
The people of the Donbas democratically voted to separate from Ukraine. They were attacked by the Ukrainian army continuously for seven years just for exercising their voting rights. Russia intervened and expelled the Ukrainian Army from the Donbas. Now the conflict in the Donbas is over. Per Jim, it's justified to involve "oneself in an existing conflict with the primary goal being to end the conflict."
People of Luhansk voting for independence from Ukraine in 2014. Because they put pieces of paper in a clear box, the Ukrainian Army directed heavy artillery fire at them.
Just because some members of one minority LIVE in another nation does not give those minority persons to right to violently join another country and take territory from one nation and to join it to another.
Oh, okay. Got it.
- Americans revolt against Britain and create a new nation called the United States of America: GOOD
- Donbasis revolt against Ukraine and create a new nation called the Luhansk People's Republic: BAD
saxi is finally learning the Truth.
Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:51 am
by HitRed
Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:31 pm
by mookiemcgee
Anyone else find it interesting there is a pretty big split happening right now in the republican party?
We see the pro Russian Reps (saxi, Tucker Carlson, Trump ect) vs the pro USA interest Republicans (most others). It's going to be interesting to watch over the next couple years if Trump is able to co-opt the whole party into a pro russia party, or if they will finally expel him like the virus he's been.
Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:32 pm
by saxitoxin
mookiemcgee wrote:Anyone else find it interesting there is a pretty big split happening right now in the republican party?
We see the pro Russian Reps (saxi, Tucker Carlson, Trump ect) vs the pro USA interest Republicans (most others). It's going to be interesting to watch over the next couple years if Trump is able to co-opt the whole party into a pro russia party, or if they will finally expel him like the virus he's been.
You mean the pro peace vs pro war reps.
Now that the Rats have fully transformed into a rabid McCarthyite party howling about Russians behind every lamp post, I expect the likes of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger will migrate there, pulling the Rats to the right and causing the remnant progressives to bolt to the Greens which they'll either transform into a legitimate third party or die trying.
Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:48 pm
by saxitoxin
Yesterday, Saudi Arabia beheaded 81 people in 24 hours, setting a new world judicial decapitation record.
This is whom the US is negotiating to buy oil from so it doesn't have to muddy its virgin innocence with purchases from Russia. America is only concerned about peace and human rights in Ukraine. Of course those aren't crocodile tears.
Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:39 pm
by Qwert
Biden and Kamala find that Putin are responsible for high prices of oil in US .
I must say that i watch what hes plan to solve these and its quite funny,,, just imagine green agenda , no more pollution no more to use fossil fuel, its come age when you can breathe fresh air , and will be much healthier . just imagine , imagine that everybody drive electric cars . imagine and your dream will come try .
(and green party of US react> WTF they stealing or Ideology!!)
Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:17 pm
by bigtoughralf
saxitoxin wrote:Yesterday, Saudi Arabia beheaded 81 people in 24 hours, setting a new world judicial decapitation record.
This is whom the US is negotiating to buy oil from so it doesn't have to muddy its virgin innocence with purchases from Russia. America is only concerned about peace and human rights in Ukraine. Of course those aren't crocodile tears.
It's odd as well because at face value the US not caring about brown deaths doesn't seem to make sense when the US has a brown VP. Maybe Kamala had to pass the same Uncle Tom test they made Obama take.
Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:35 pm
by mookiemcgee
saxitoxin wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:Anyone else find it interesting there is a pretty big split happening right now in the republican party?
We see the pro Russian Reps (saxi, Tucker Carlson, Trump ect) vs the pro USA interest Republicans (most others). It's going to be interesting to watch over the next couple years if Trump is able to co-opt the whole party into a pro russia party, or if they will finally expel him like the virus he's been.
You mean the pro peace vs pro war reps.
Now that the Rats have fully transformed into a rabid McCarthyite party howling about Russians behind every lamp post, I expect the likes of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger will migrate there, pulling the Rats to the right and causing the remnant progressives to bolt to the Greens which they'll either transform into a legitimate third party or die trying.
mookiemcgee wrote:Anyone else find it interesting there is a pretty big split happening right now in the republican party?
We see the pro Russian Reps (saxi, Tucker Carlson, Trump ect) vs the pro USA interest Republicans (most others). It's going to be interesting to watch over the next couple years if Trump is able to co-opt the whole party into a pro russia party, or if they will finally expel him like the virus he's been.
You mean the pro peace vs pro war reps.
Now that the Rats have fully transformed into a rabid McCarthyite party howling about Russians behind every lamp post, I expect the likes of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger will migrate there, pulling the Rats to the right and causing the remnant progressives to bolt to the Greens which they'll either transform into a legitimate third party or die trying.
saxitoxin wrote:Yesterday, Saudi Arabia beheaded 81 people in 24 hours, setting a new world judicial decapitation record.
This is whom the US is negotiating to buy oil from so it doesn't have to muddy its virgin innocence with purchases from Russia. America is only concerned about peace and human rights in Ukraine. Of course those aren't crocodile tears.
It's odd as well because at face value the US not caring about brown deaths doesn't seem to make sense when the US has a brown VP. Maybe Kamala had to pass the same Uncle Tom test they made Obama take.
It's really remarkable. The UN today said about 600 civilians have been killed in 20 days of fighting. That's about 30 per day, an astonishingly low number for "the biggest war in Europe in 80 years(TM)." In the same one-day period, Saudi Arabia killed 81 of its own people.
And yet, somehow - for reasons no one can explain - it's okay to buy Saudi oil but not Russian oil.
Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:23 pm
by saxitoxin
More than 100 civilians die from gunshot wounds every day in Biden's America. About 30 civilians die from Russian military ops every day in Ukraine. As a Ukrainian civilian, you're actually safer in Ukraine than you would be in Biden's America.
Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:07 pm
by mookiemcgee
saxitoxin wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:Anyone else find it interesting there is a pretty big split happening right now in the republican party?
We see the pro Russian Reps (saxi, Tucker Carlson, Trump ect) vs the pro USA interest Republicans (most others). It's going to be interesting to watch over the next couple years if Trump is able to co-opt the whole party into a pro russia party, or if they will finally expel him like the virus he's been.
You mean the pro peace vs pro war reps.
Now that the Rats have fully transformed into a rabid McCarthyite party howling about Russians behind every lamp post, I expect the likes of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger will migrate there, pulling the Rats to the right and causing the remnant progressives to bolt to the Greens which they'll either transform into a legitimate third party or die trying.
My mistake, your thesis therefore is: Pro fascism, Anti democracy... cus fascism is how you achieve peace, by destroying anyone that opposes you. f*ck freedom, thats for suckers who mess with democracy. But I (saxi) prefer to live in a city in the US run by democrats because... it's got more interesting people.
Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:11 pm
by mookiemcgee
saxitoxin wrote:More than 100 civilians die from gunshot wounds every day in Biden's America. About 30 civilians die from Russian military ops every day in Ukraine. As a Ukrainian civilian, you're actually safer in Ukraine than you would be in Biden's America.
100: 330,000,000 = 1 in 3.3 million chance
30: 43,000,000 = 1 in 1.4 million chance (and that's Ukraines population before everyone fled to Poland)
You are actually over 2x safer in the USA, numbers flip significantly in your arguments favor if you would have said Chicago instead of USA. We could also shoot the numbers way back the other way if we only counted Ukrainians (by heritage) murdered in the USA.
Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:33 pm
by Maxleod
mookiemcgee wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:More than 100 civilians die from gunshot wounds every day in Biden's America. About 30 civilians die from Russian military ops every day in Ukraine. As a Ukrainian civilian, you're actually safer in Ukraine than you would be in Biden's America.
100: 330,000,000 = 1 in 3.3 million chance
30: 43,000,000 = 1 in 1.4 million chance (and that's Ukraines population before everyone fled to Poland)
You are actually over 2x safer in the USA, numbers flip significantly in your arguments favor if you would have said Chicago instead of USA. We could also shoot the numbers way back the other way if we only counted Ukrainians (by heritage) murdered in the USA.
There's a huge difference though, there's a all out war going on on Ukrainian soil.
The USA has a death rate due to gunwounds ten times higher than other western countries, and higher than what Ukraine, a "third world" country(former USSR state) had before the war. Ukraine at peace was safer than the USA. Poor, but safe.
Bottomline is that in time of peace, Ukraine is safer than the USA.
Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:17 pm
by mookiemcgee
Maxleod wrote:
Bottomline is that in time of peace, Ukraine is safer than the USA.
That statement (if we are talking exclusively about death from gunshot) is likely true of 95%+ of all other countries (during peacetime). Maybe 100%?
The US though has been 'at war with terrorism' since 9/11, so I'm not sure it's fair to distinguish it from other countries currently at war
Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:51 pm
by jusplay4fun
saxitoxin wrote:More than 100 civilians die from gunshot wounds every day in Biden's America. About 30 civilians die from Russian military ops every day in Ukraine. As a Ukrainian civilian, you're actually safer in Ukraine than you would be in Biden's America.
The above is more bullshit logic, or lack of logic, from saxi. Yes, everyday in saxi's area, artillery shells and bombs and mortars drop randomly to kill those he knows and destroy buildings and hospitals and apartments near where he lives. Yes, it is safer to live in the war zone of Ukraine that in saxi's USA. RIGHT.........
saxi needs to understand the term "per capita" and understand statistics. He must have failed that class and the one on common sense, too.
And where is llama to throw a flag (penalty) for consecutive triple posts by two guys? Well done, O joyless one. Are you too busy digging turnips for dinner?
As far as buying Oil: Let's see:
1) buy from the Bad Russians and former communists?
2) buy from Arabs who practice justice from the Middle Ages and behead people?
3) Maduro and Venezuela, who wants to be dictator for life (and destroy his country in the process)?
4) Nigeria and their problems?
5) Mexico and their rampant corruption?
or
6) Canadians?
OR>>>>>>>>>>>>>
7) American oil producers who follow some of the toughest environmental laws in the world?
THANKS, Biden.
Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:02 pm
by saxitoxin
mookiemcgee wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:Anyone else find it interesting there is a pretty big split happening right now in the republican party?
We see the pro Russian Reps (saxi, Tucker Carlson, Trump ect) vs the pro USA interest Republicans (most others). It's going to be interesting to watch over the next couple years if Trump is able to co-opt the whole party into a pro russia party, or if they will finally expel him like the virus he's been.
You mean the pro peace vs pro war reps.
Now that the Rats have fully transformed into a rabid McCarthyite party howling about Russians behind every lamp post, I expect the likes of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger will migrate there, pulling the Rats to the right and causing the remnant progressives to bolt to the Greens which they'll either transform into a legitimate third party or die trying.
My mistake, your thesis therefore is: Pro fascism, Anti democracy... cus fascism is how you achieve peace, by destroying anyone that opposes you. f*ck freedom, thats for suckers who mess with democracy. But I (saxi) prefer to live in a city in the US run by democrats because... it's got more interesting people.
This is reaching JP4F levels of rambling incoherence.
Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:05 pm
by saxitoxin
Former UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter affirms that things are going great for Russia who are pulverizing the Nazis even with one hand tied behind their backs. Keep eating up the propaganda that Ukraine is winning.
190,000 Russian troops are fighting 180,000 Ukrainian regular troops trained and organized to NATO standards and another 310,000 reservists and security forces. Normal attack-defense ratios call for a 3 to 1 advantage. Russia is attacking at 1 to 2.5+ disadvantage and is winning.
mookiemcgee wrote:Anyone else find it interesting there is a pretty big split happening right now in the republican party?
We see the pro Russian Reps (saxi, Tucker Carlson, Trump ect) vs the pro USA interest Republicans (most others). It's going to be interesting to watch over the next couple years if Trump is able to co-opt the whole party into a pro russia party, or if they will finally expel him like the virus he's been.
You mean the pro peace vs pro war reps.
Now that the Rats have fully transformed into a rabid McCarthyite party howling about Russians behind every lamp post, I expect the likes of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger will migrate there, pulling the Rats to the right and causing the remnant progressives to bolt to the Greens which they'll either transform into a legitimate third party or die trying.
My mistake, your thesis therefore is: Pro fascism, Anti democracy... cus fascism is how you achieve peace, by destroying anyone that opposes you. f*ck freedom, thats for suckers who mess with democracy. But I (saxi) prefer to live in a city in the US run by democrats because... it's got more interesting people.
This is reaching JP4F levels of rambling incoherence.
Your logic still SUCKS.
Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:40 pm
by mookiemcgee
jusplay4fun wrote:
OR>>>>>>>>>>>>>
7) American oil producers who follow some of the toughest environmental laws in the world?
THANKS, Biden.
Biden says you are welcome. Here's a report from a left wing organization basically throwing Biden to the wolves because while he was anti-oil in rhetoric during his campaign and presidency, but he's been pro-oil in actions.
But the major debate centered on the place of Québec and French Canada in Canada. Daniel Johnson, Québec premier 1966-68, Claude Ryan, editor of the daily newspaper Le Devoir, and others favoured a new Canadian constitution that would expand Québec's area of legislative jurisdiction and establish a bilingual and bicultural Canada, ensuring the equality of the 2 founding peoples
Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:52 pm
by HitRed
British Canada and French Canada seemed to worked out a live together but being different. From what I read the French got to teach their history and use their own language.
Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:22 pm
by saxitoxin
Haunting image of Donbasi children seeking shelter in a basement from Ukrainian Army shelling of their village in 2014.
The photo was taken by the Italian journalist Andrea Rocchelli (1983-2014) who was ambushed and murdered by Ukrainian troops shortly after.
A Ukrainian was convicted of the murder by an Italian court but was acquitted on appeal over a technicality last year. It's believed he's currently commanding a battalion of Nazi volunteers in Ukraine fighting the Russian Army.
Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:28 pm
by saxitoxin
Reminder:
If you stand with Ukraine, you stand with Mitt Romney and World War III.
If you stand with Russia, you stand with Tulsi Gabbard and world peace.
