Conquer Club

Machiavelli wrote:I dont think it fully clears wicked, because she is smart enough to know what I am getting at, and could easily just be mafia agreeing with me.


I'm definetely a townie though

That was in response to Sully saying Wicked was def. a townie.

Hey everyone, sorry I've been missing lately, let me read all this real quick....

Alright, looking at autoload's thread gives me a clue already. He used green as innocent, red as mafia and blue as townie. I think blue good just as easily mean "not townie or mafia" which fits with xenhu's instigator role. That would mean AK is following the same coloring format that Autoload did. Not a big deal but I guess it would show that xenhu wasn't a townie at least!

wicked wrote:

Machiavelli wrote:This is why I'm hot. This is why, this is why I'm hot.

well granted you WERE hot in that game! and so far you're doing well in this one.

I'm hot cause I'm fly, you aint cause you not. This is why, this is why, this is why I'm hot.

I have that song stuck in my head and it fit so well right there.

welcome to two pages ago sully.

but I think no one will now come out and say they think there's a SK b/c we're all so convinced there isn't based on our win condition. so how can we use this info? b/c mach is right, mafia could just agree.

IF XenHu wasnt town, I dont think Senfive is either.

And I get the vibe that fircoal isnt protown, even if the SK thing doesnt make him guilty.

I looked at my pm, and your right. I didn't think about re-reading the pm.

UNfos: Mach

I'll be back later, but for now

vote fircoal

^^This is why I'm hott.

With two t's

Machiavelli wrote:IF XenHu wasnt town, I dont think Senfive is either.

And I get the vibe that fircoal isnt protown, even if the SK thing doesnt make him guilty.

Why?

i have the feeling fircoal IS pro town and mach IS mafia or something like that.. just a thought

So any idea what an instigator actually is? I've searched all over and I can't find a thing.

Machiavelli wrote:CAREFULLY reread the pm you got that told you your role, and then answer again.

Mac,
I know what you are saying but I don't agree with it. It might just be that the town in this game does not really care whether there is a SK or not? Do you understand what I mean? In any case, I think whthere there is one or not is immaterial.

Machiavelli wrote:IF XenHu wasnt town, I dont think Senfive is either.

I can probably be convinced of this...

I see what you're getting at Houssam. since we don't have to elim. the weird roles, it doesn't necessarily mean they're not there, like the instigator. and by weird roles, I mean those independent ones like instigator, and SK would fall under this as well. Those roles would have independent WC's.

wicked wrote:I see what you're getting at Houssam. since we don't have to elim. the weird roles, it doesn't necessarily mean they're not there, like the instigator. and by weird roles, I mean those independent ones like instigator, and SK would fall under this as well. Those roles would have independent WC's.

right...

dussle wrote:So any idea what an instigator actually is? I've searched all over and I can't find a thing.

Also, I think there ar multiple mafias. If there was a day vigilante, wuld he really be stupid enough to randomly kill people? If so, let me at 'im!!

red bull wrote:i have the feeling fircoal IS pro town and mach IS mafia or something like that.. just a thought

red bull you keep throwing out these random thoughts w/o backing them up. Why do you think these things?

just a hunch from all the things he said ..........

red bull wrote:just a hunch from all the things he said ..........

a "hunch" eh...
and what things would those be?

red bull wrote:just a hunch from all the things he said ..........

You might want to back up your "hunches" instead of doing nothing. Random accusations and randomly trusting people is a complete waste of time if you don't back it up.

I have pointed my bad feeling about the no lynch vote and possibly false innocence of red bull before... Plus, he really seems connected to fircoal:

red bull wrote:fircoal and xenu have not said mush to eachother .... where as both players have gone after almost every one else i find that weird that they are leaving each other alone but i still stick to my vote

red bull wrote:ok lets see two dead at night 4 total dead ....... fircaol off the hook for me now i think he is pro town ..........

red bull wrote:i have the feeling fircoal IS pro town and mach IS mafia or something like that.. just a thought

Well, to me red bull is a noob cop, or a noob mafia... And I would like to discover now, so we could clean or lynch fircoal next. I would surely vote for red bull, but before I will give him the chance to say something.

About the SK thing Mach said, I understand the point, but agree with Houssam: a SK looks like a real possibility to me.

HoussamTheGreat wrote:

Machiavelli wrote:CAREFULLY reread the pm you got that told you your role, and then answer again.

Mac,
I know what you are saying but I don't agree with it. It might just be that the town in this game does not really care whether there is a SK or not? Do you understand what I mean? In any case, I think whthere there is one or not is immaterial.

The game cant end with a serial killer left.


The standard win condition for a SK is to be the last one standing. If the game ended as soon as all the mafia were eliminated it would be literally impossible for the SK to win, because eventually it would have to get down to just one mafia and the SK, and then they would both kill each other.

AndyDufresne wrote:I think I know who Master Bush investigated the first night also. We should take a closer look at his voting record also... [/list]

--Andy

Andy, I’d really like to know what post of MB’s your referring to. The game started in the Daytime, and MB was whacked the 1st night. The only clue I could come up with was this post:

Master Bush wrote:I'm never gonna make it deep in these mafia games, cause of how good of a townie I am.

And that’s only if you assume that MB’s post meant that his earlier suspicions were confirmed at night. Maybe AK gave him the results of his investigation before he processed the Mafia’s “to do list.”

Senfive wrote:Where do you have definate proof if it turns out to be a Townie Power role? I understand that you can look at the list of who voted for the townie but in a 25 man game, if the bandwagon starts with townies and continues with townies the smart mafia won't hop on and be in the clear with your logic Fircoal. I didn't want a lynch in auto's last game and who did we kill? Oh thats right the doctor on the first lynch everyone bandwagoned on. Did we get anywhere with your looking at who voted for who? I don't think so. I don't want a repeat of that.

This was quoted as an informative post to Senfive, rather than pointing suspicion. 2 Mafia members voted XenHu. Cram did before he was killed, and spiesr. The point being, there is always information gained from a lynching. The “smart mafia” you referred to, did in fact hop on the bandwagon.

Also, I think I’ve seen 2 people signal that they are Vigilantes. Has anyone who spotted what I’m talking about have an opinion on the validity of the posts? Meaning they could be hinting to avoid a real Vigilantes bullet? Or is this something that I shouldn’t be talking about at all?

ok but what about a vigilante? Aren't vigilante's pro-town, so the WC would be the same as townies?

Senfive wrote:

reverend_kyle wrote:

sully800 wrote:

AndyDufresne wrote:

He was arguing with Senfive a lot, almost fighting with him and I believe pointed a FOS but never voted for Senfive.

I think MB and Senfive have clashing personalities.

--Andy

Oh, I don't think MB investigated Senfive, since he was being accusatory toward Senfive. I do believe that MB investigated a townie because he would have tried to tip us off otherwise. So perhaps he was being accusatory toward Senfive and struck a bit of truth? Maybe Senfive felt threatened because MB was right and so Senfive bumped him off?

It's a reach I know, and can't be proven, but whenever a townie is killed I think its helpful to look at who they were suspicious of, or who they clashed with. For MB it seemed to be wicked, senfive and xenhu. I think the wicked vote was mostly a joke to start the day, so I will point another FOS at Senfive

As for your confidence in who MB investigated, I still am not seeing the reasoning Andy.

This is more evidence then we had killing xenhu. I'm going to go ahead and vote senfive as it seems he is the biggest lead, also he was in autoloads game with master bush and watched him pick off 5 mafia, and argued with him every time. It just makes sense.

RK way to go with what others are saying instead of looking and reading for yourself. Like I said. Look at sully and RK after you find out I am townie. I Rest my case. I am tired of the Townies being led around like a dog on a leash.

The stuff he mentioned was stuff I agree with plus my little addition and that is why.. I dont know how to weigh in on this whole SK thing, although I believe we should wait and see if the 2 kills a night thing continues before assuming there is.