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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:01 am
by Bad Speler
AndyDufresne wrote:Perhaps since deadbeat doesn't really involve any money (like war expenses did), you should alter the $. Perhaps a red X? Kind of like our scarlet letter for deadbeats. Or something.

Fixed in the version on page 20.

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:03 am
by mibi
Bad Speler wrote:
mibi wrote:why is premium -1? Seems like a bad marketing idea.

I thought of that too, but as gimil said it costs money for most people. The rough draft I made for this was before the shop, maybe we can change it to something to do with the shop as that also costs money.

And Gilligan and bryguy (you guys can fight over who gets this one :P ) we can change war expenses to deadbeats.


What you have done is created a negative association with having a premium, and now a shop purchase. You have equated it with dead beating, the only other -1 on the board. Its a subliminal disaster in the making.

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:14 am
by Bad Speler
mibi wrote:
Bad Speler wrote:
mibi wrote:why is premium -1? Seems like a bad marketing idea.

I thought of that too, but as gimil said it costs money for most people. The rough draft I made for this was before the shop, maybe we can change it to something to do with the shop as that also costs money.

And Gilligan and bryguy (you guys can fight over who gets this one :P ) we can change war expenses to deadbeats.


What you have done is created a negative association with having a premium, and now a shop purchase. You have equated it with dead beating, the only other -1 on the board. Its a subliminal disaster in the making.

I'm sure people will know well enough the - 1 is for cost of purchase, either that, or they know that in the real monopoly, it is luxury tax, another expense.

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:25 am
by Keredrex
This really isn't a big deal But I think I would rather play the small version....
Only because it is much easier to read....
Yes, I know, its not really difficult either.... but It is easier

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 6:21 am
by Gilligan
Updated XML:

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<title>Conqueropoly</title>
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 9:22 am
by bryguy
shoot gilligan, u beat me to it :lol:

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:32 pm
by Bad Speler
bryguy, could you fix those coordinates i mentioned earlier?

Also, I'd just like to bring up the point of neutrals because they haven't been mentioned much and I'd like to make sure everyone is fine with them. Currently we have the neutrals we have are

All battleships: 2
Shop Purchase: 3
Free Army: 3
Deadbeat: 1

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:35 pm
by gimil
shop purchase should be 1 as well,no ones going to attack a 3 to lose 1 army every turn :)

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:36 pm
by Bad Speler
gimil wrote:shop purchase should be 1 as well,no ones going to attack a 3 to lose 1 army every turn :)

Well its part of a continent, thats why we made it 3. But I can see how the argument can go both ways

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:37 pm
by gimil
Bad Speler wrote:
gimil wrote:shop purchase should be 1 as well,no ones going to attack a 3 to lose 1 army every turn :)

Well its part of a continent, thats why we made it 3. But I can see how the argument can go both ways


I suppose making it part of a continent justifies a higher count, maybe a 2 on it then?

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:38 pm
by Bad Speler
Thats a good comprimise, we'll make it 2 then.

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:52 pm
by gimil
Bad Speler wrote:Thats a good comprimise, we'll make it 2 then.


glad you agree :)

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:28 pm
by Gilligan
I've updated the XML in the above post.

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:57 pm
by Bad Speler
since your on now gilligan, can you change the number in the die 3 smally to 318, and the smally of mods to 357 ?

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:02 pm
by Gilligan
Bad Speler wrote:since your on now gilligan, can you change the number in the die 3 smally to 318, and the smally of mods to 357 ?


Done.

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:12 pm
by Bad Speler
Thanks gilligan...one more number to change (I always for get one, sorry) Dice deck needs to have the small y changed to 363.

With that change, heres what the small map now looks like with coords

Image

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:14 pm
by Gilligan
no problem

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 9:39 pm
by bryguy
hey gilligan, from the 26th to the 30th you will have to do all xml updates, cause im gonna be on a vacation

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 4:20 am
by gimil
bryguy wrote:hey gilligan, from the 26th to the 30th you will have to do all xml updates, cause im gonna be on a vacation


im sure gills up to it have a good holiday:)

merry christmas

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:45 am
by bryguy
gimil wrote:
bryguy wrote:hey gilligan, from the 26th to the 30th you will have to do all xml updates, cause im gonna be on a vacation


im sure gills up to it have a good holiday:)

merry christmas


merry christmas to u to

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:49 am
by Gilligan
No problemo bryguy. Have fun on your vacation!

Merry Christmas everyone.

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 1:00 pm
by bryguy
Gilligan wrote:No problemo bryguy. Have fun on your vacation!

Merry Christmas everyone.



thanks gilligan


and merry christmas :)

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 1:48 pm
by Gilligan
bryguy wrote:
Gilligan wrote:No problemo bryguy. Have fun on your vacation!

Merry Christmas everyone.



thanks gilligan


and merry christmas :)


Where are you off to?

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 4:55 pm
by bryguy
Gilligan wrote:
bryguy wrote:
Gilligan wrote:No problemo bryguy. Have fun on your vacation!

Merry Christmas everyone.



thanks gilligan


and merry christmas :)


Where are you off to?



Grandmas for a (sorta) late christmas celebration/family reunion, and she doesnt have any computer connection :( , and i dont have a lap top, sadly :cry:


well, later guys, be back the day before january or the day before the day before january, or if i get snowed in then next year

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:24 pm
by Contron13542
Merry Christmas and I would like to register how pathetic it is how many of us are online on christmas