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betiko wrote:

IcePack wrote:We helped TOFU get the title before, hopefully they return the favor for us here this year

you made tofu lose the CC5 and I'm not sure I remember, but I think they would've won the CL6 without your help!

No as we discussed here the FALL vs ACE NZ game was one of the key games for TOFU to win the title with an ACE loss, or ACE win if the won the game

And well....ya CC5 but Cup is different then league :p

IcePack wrote:

betiko wrote:

IcePack wrote:We helped TOFU get the title before, hopefully they return the favor for us here this year

you made tofu lose the CC5 and I'm not sure I remember, but I think they would've won the CL6 without your help!

No as we discussed here the FALL vs ACE NZ game was one of the key games for TOFU to win the title with an ACE loss, or ACE win if the won the game

And well....ya CC5 but Cup is different then league :p

It was a key game but we won CL6 by two points....meaning if ACE would've won that game against Fallen, we'd have won CL6 by one point. This year is closer. While that game was in doubt no one knew what the margin of victory would be though, that was clear.

I won't get into who made us lose CC5. Fallen certainly had something to do with it, but they weren't alone in that.

rockfist wrote:

IcePack wrote:

betiko wrote:

IcePack wrote:We helped TOFU get the title before, hopefully they return the favor for us here this year

you made tofu lose the CC5 and I'm not sure I remember, but I think they would've won the CL6 without your help!

No as we discussed here the FALL vs ACE NZ game was one of the key games for TOFU to win the title with an ACE loss, or ACE win if the won the game

And well....ya CC5 but Cup is different then league :p

It was a key game but we won CL6 by two points....meaning if ACE would've won that game against Fallen, we'd have won CL6 by one point. This year is closer. While that game was in doubt no one knew what the margin of victory would be though, that was clear.

I won't get into who made us lose CC5. Fallen certainly had something to do with it, but they weren't alone in that.

Sounds like someone at tofu missed an important turn in that war?

And yes that s what I thought... At some point the NZ game was decisive, but ACE needed to combine it with some other wins that didn't happen, and it ended not being decisive.
I'm pretty certain this one will be decisive.

I think it would be of bad taste to chose a NZ game on the last round next year if one of the clans racing for the title is involved in it!

We can save time next year and all the top clans can play NZ, winner of that gets the title? :p

IcePack wrote:We can save time next year and all the top clans can play NZ, winner of that gets the title? :p

Why don't we just hold a raffle ?

betiko wrote:

rockfist wrote:

IcePack wrote:

betiko wrote:

IcePack wrote:We helped TOFU get the title before, hopefully they return the favor for us here this year

you made tofu lose the CC5 and I'm not sure I remember, but I think they would've won the CL6 without your help!

No as we discussed here the FALL vs ACE NZ game was one of the key games for TOFU to win the title with an ACE loss, or ACE win if the won the game

And well....ya CC5 but Cup is different then league :p

It was a key game but we won CL6 by two points....meaning if ACE would've won that game against Fallen, we'd have won CL6 by one point. This year is closer. While that game was in doubt no one knew what the margin of victory would be though, that was clear.

I won't get into who made us lose CC5. Fallen certainly had something to do with it, but they weren't alone in that.

Sounds like someone at tofu missed an important turn in that war?

And yes that s what I thought... At some point the NZ game was decisive, but ACE needed to combine it with some other wins that didn't happen, and it ended not being decisive.
I'm pretty certain this one will be decisive.

I think it would be of bad taste to chose a NZ game on the last round next year if one of the clans racing for the title is involved in it!

If you are implying it was me...it wasn't I've missed one turn in a clan game and that was in round nine of an already all but lost game against RA in CC5, due to falling asleep early ...what is sad is I can describe what I was going to try to do and what the board looked like in great detail...not that its burned into my long term memory or anything...

rockfist wrote:

betiko wrote:

rockfist wrote:

IcePack wrote:

betiko wrote:

IcePack wrote:We helped TOFU get the title before, hopefully they return the favor for us here this year

you made tofu lose the CC5 and I'm not sure I remember, but I think they would've won the CL6 without your help!

No as we discussed here the FALL vs ACE NZ game was one of the key games for TOFU to win the title with an ACE loss, or ACE win if the won the game

And well....ya CC5 but Cup is different then league :p

It was a key game but we won CL6 by two points....meaning if ACE would've won that game against Fallen, we'd have won CL6 by one point. This year is closer. While that game was in doubt no one knew what the margin of victory would be though, that was clear.

I won't get into who made us lose CC5. Fallen certainly had something to do with it, but they weren't alone in that.

Sounds like someone at tofu missed an important turn in that war?

And yes that s what I thought... At some point the NZ game was decisive, but ACE needed to combine it with some other wins that didn't happen, and it ended not being decisive.
I'm pretty certain this one will be decisive.

I think it would be of bad taste to chose a NZ game on the last round next year if one of the clans racing for the title is involved in it!

If you are implying it was me...it wasn't I've missed one turn in a clan game and that was in round nine of an already all but lost game against RA in CC5, due to falling asleep early ...what is sad is I can describe what I was going to try to do and what the board looked like in great detail...not that its burned into my long term memory or anything...

lol, you said fallen wasn't the only one who made you guys lose the CC5... so maybe you meant the dice, but I read that as you implying that sombody in tofu screwed up.... and I guess that if it were you you would've said it explicitely. So no... definitely not implying it was you.

by the way I see that both gallipoli and hive are finally over.
The league is down to 3 games, and LHDD needs to win all 3 of them to become champion!!!


New zealand Game 16458427 -> LHDD slightly behind
USA 2.1 Game 16458438 -> LHDD has this
Poison Rome Game 16458440 -> LHDD has this

1-2 wins for LHDD:
1.FALL 33 (+42)
2.LHDD 32 (+44 or +46)
3.TOFU 32 (+42 or +40)

3 wins for LHDD:
1.LHDD 33 (+48)
2.FALL 33 (+42)
3.TOFU 31 (+38)

I made some mistakes. One in a W2.1 game, which bothered me since it was a home game. I played 14 games. I tend to get drafted into away games that we don't have specialists for. Its difficult for me to play that number of games (and particularly away games I'm not super familiar with) mistake free. There are people out there who could play flawlessly for that number of games, but I am usually not one of them.

I'm not here to talk about any mistakes anyone else may have made. I'll publicly call out myself because I can handle it, but the rest stays internal.

So what's the prognosis?
Everyone still hanging on tenterhooks for New Zealand?

Leehar wrote:So what's the prognosis?
Everyone still hanging on tenterhooks for New Zealand?

Yep Game 16458427

Yes and what a game ! Round 21 and it's still not possible to say who will win it. For a non trench game in such a small map it's really long.

Awesome game it is, with a lot of people following it. Go TOFU!!

the thing is that NZ is one of the few maps where there is no region cout bonus at 12, probably the smallest one of the 16 regions 4 per extra +1; and region bonuses are really hard to defend; so it can easily go from one side to the other depending on the dice's mood.

I wonder if it will be decided before the USA 2.1 finishes!

betiko wrote:the thing is that NZ is one of the few maps where there is no region cout bonus at 12, probably the smallest one of the 16 regions 4 per extra +1; and region bonuses are really hard to defend; so it can easily go from one side to the other depending on the dice's mood.

I wonder if it will be decided before the USA 2.1 finishes!

Don't think so. USA 2.1 is almost over now!

Yes, USA2.1 should finish quickly. You've started eliminating us so it cuts the wait time down tremendously. Congrats.

rockfist wrote:Yes, USA2.1 should finish quickly. You've started eliminating us so it cuts the wait time down tremendously. Congrats.

looks like team USA 2.1 is finally done with it!

so the NZ game should be officially the last game of this league... and this league is still undecided! I think this is something never seen before... mostly with a third clan that finishes maybe 1 point away from the win playing this last game.
There aren't many other scenarios that could make this more exciting...

anyways, blue's turn is damn pretty important.

Lindax: there is a confrontation that finished MMM 3 ACE 4 on round 11 but I guess the last one wasn't created because of a penalty of some sort? cause it's not updated in your OP

betiko wrote:Lindax: there is a confrontation that finished MMM 3 ACE 4 on round 11 but I guess the last one wasn't created because of a penalty of some sort? cause it's not updated in your OP

Thanks betiko. There was a game replaced, but it doesn't show up in the database.

Keefie, can you fix that please?

Game 16463456 replaces 16450486...too many trench games.

Lx

betiko wrote:

rockfist wrote:Yes, USA2.1 should finish quickly. You've started eliminating us so it cuts the wait time down tremendously. Congrats.

looks like team USA 2.1 is finally done with it!

so the NZ game should be officially the last game of this league... and this league is still undecided! I think this is something never seen before... mostly with a third clan that finishes maybe 1 point away from the win playing this last game.
There aren't many other scenarios that could make this more exciting...

anyways, blue's turn is damn pretty important.

Lindax: there is a confrontation that finished MMM 3 ACE 4 on round 11 but I guess the last one wasn't created because of a penalty of some sort? cause it's not updated in your OP

Yes, if it is a successful turn the game will remain in doubt. If it is a dice fail it could be all but over.

Oh yeah it s true you are told what s going on unlike FALL lol

Well il was a 6-6 so pretty cool, with good dice yellow was gone !

Yeeeeeeeehaa!!!!

One tofu sliced 2 to go!!!!!

This is looking incredibly good for our title!!!!

betiko wrote:Yeeeeeeeehaa!!!!

One tofu sliced 2 to go!!!!!

This is looking incredibly good for our title!!!!

Wow... honestly can't believe this! What a finish! We had so many games to win at a certain moment that even our clan didn't believe that it was possible and we are almost there!

Looking at the results, you certainly deserve it...going 3-1 against both us and Fallen. Well done!

rockfist wrote:Looking at the results, you certainly deserve it...going 3-1 against both us and Fallen. Well done!

4-0 against fallen actually

This finish was crazy lucky... I remember the day I went in the forum to anounce that we were done on gallipoli, no chance for a comeback.... So I get on our CL7 thread, and there Mishalex had just announced that NZ was completely lost... Since hive was completely lost; we needed a miracle winning 3 against tofu... Poison rome looking bad, usa 2.1 was even, and all the rest was declared a sure loss.
So I came here to congratulate fallen, because we had no chance to win anymore.
Not to mention that we had to come back out of nowhere on a third crusade game agaist RET to steal a point... And that we had this das schloss game against FALL pending during monthes.... And that they didn't seem to notice they were still completely able to win it. We let them take some terts on players we wanted to team kill on the last round, had they noticed it was a trap, they would've won the league!

Anyways, dice turned completely both on poison rome and NZ at the same time, and we tried to sieze the oportunity for another month.

It's pretty sweet to take our revenge from fallen who beat us by 1 in the CC5 semi finals last year, and now to beat them by 1 game to win the CL7 first division of the closest edition ever!

Well, let s wait cause maybe blue can still pull great stuff, he has the stack, so it s not completely over before we can really celebrate!

But this was a great competition, only dice could decide this between fall, tofu and lhdd.

betiko wrote:we're going to need too many miracles...

1) we need to win these FALL games:
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=16333020
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=16333419

2) we need to win this RET game:
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=16418341

3) if we win the ret game, we need 3/5 of these, if we lose the ret game we need 4/5:
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=16458423
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=16458427
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=16458437
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=16458438
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=16458440

That's when you start thinking of all these games that made you draw rounds instead of giving a victory, or lose instead of draw..

haha those were the hard days!