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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:28 pm
by Chariot of Fire
Interesting comparisons here:
AOC & KORTCup - KORT will beat AOC 7-6
League - KORT will beat AOC 7-5
Total: KORT 14 AOC 11
PACK & TSMCup - PACK beat TSM 9-4
League - TSM will beat PACK 8-4
Total: PACK 13 TSM 12
TOFU & IACup - TOFU should beat IA 8-5
League - IA will beat TOFU 8-4
Total: TOFU 12 IA 13
There is no comparison for Empire because they had ID in the Cup and AFOS in the League
Just interesting to see, with the exception of KORT who won both engagements by a close margin, how close it all is (and also how results in one tourney were reversed in the other)
I have too much time on my hands

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:56 am
by betiko
Let s see if it means we ll take our revenge on empire next round in the cup!
Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:51 am
by Qwert
Chariot of Fire wrote:Interesting comparisons here:
AOC & KORTCup - KORT will beat AOC 7-6
League - KORT will beat AOC 7-5
Total: KORT 14 AOC 11
PACK & TSMCup - PACK beat TSM 9-4
League - TSM will beat PACK 8-4
Total: PACK 13 TSM 12
TOFU & IACup - TOFU should beat IA 8-5
League - IA will beat TOFU 8-4
Total: TOFU 12 IA 13
There is no comparison for Empire because they had ID in the Cup and AFOS in the League
Just interesting to see, with the exception of KORT who won both engagements by a close margin, how close it all is (and also how results in one tourney were reversed in the other)
I have too much time on my hands

In division 2 you have also similar results
-Cup-PIG-MYT 8-5
-League-MYT-PIG 8-4
total-MYT-PIG 13-12
Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:58 am
by Chariot of Fire
It's largely due to the cyclical nature of the dice I think. That's why in the next Clan League it will be good to meet the same opponent twice on different dates (once for home games and again for away games) so that results are not based on just one small sample size.
Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:43 am
by jetsetwilly
PROFITS wrote:My prediction off of games and standings a few days ago put in kort, ia, tofu, and winner of pack/ aoc challange.
If we take the win against TSM (Down to feudal epic) then I think we are in the mix with The Pack but it's very hard to read.
Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:12 pm
by Rodion
Are you guys (IA, TOFU, AOC/PACK) projecting to get 8 points?
Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:29 pm
by Swifte
IA has 5 in the bank, looking at 7 points if we can finish out the games we feel we are winning against TSM, and an 8th point if we can win our final ongoing game against AOC to stretch that match from a draw to a victory... still a pretty close game in my estimation.
Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:33 pm
by jetsetwilly
Rodion wrote:Are you guys (IA, TOFU, AOC/PACK) projecting to get 8 points?
We have 4 points in the bag, optimistically 6. We would have to get the draw with IA and draw with PACK or beat PACK to get to the 8 point mark. The IA game is from week 1 and has a way to go yet.....
Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:37 pm
by Rodion
We have 8 guaranteed, 7 already in the bank and 1 more after Conquer Rome vs. PACK is over. I am not sure whether we'll be able to get any more points, though, as the last 3 challenges all seem dire.
Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:48 pm
by Chariot of Fire
Could finish with 9 (Won 2, Drew 3, Lost 2) and be in the mix for a 4th place spot.
It's ruthless!
Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:53 pm
by Swifte
Chariot of Fire wrote:Could finish with 9 (Won 2, Drew 3, Lost 2) and be in the mix for a 4th place spot.
It's ruthless!
Wins are worth 2 points... W2, D3, L2 would be 7 points.
Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:03 pm
by Chariot of Fire
lol, I wrote 7 and then came back and edited the bloody thing thinking maybe a win was worth 3pts. I must be easily influenced by the football on the telly at the moment.
Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:07 pm
by Sniper08
Pack have atleast 6 pts with wins over TOFU , IA and AFOS. AOC is looking to be a draw or possible win if we can get conquerman and bamboo jack(both games we have a very slight advantage at the moment)
Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:09 pm
by Leehar
Chariot of Fire wrote:Could finish with 9 (Won 2, Drew 3, Lost 2) and be in the mix for a 4th place spot.
It's ruthless!
7

I'm expecting around the same (3 wins, 1 Draw, 2 Lost) with hopefully maybe another win or tie to get us over the hurdle to above 8 points.
IA week Jet?
fastposted

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:57 pm
by General Brock II
laughingcavalier wrote:betiko wrote:jackin_u_up wrote:Should be a blood bath. Whoever wins this division is truly the best clan on this site. Gl to all the clans.
even though with 12 games mini challenges it can go either way pretty fast each time... so maybe not the best wins. I don't know if we should consider the team with the best win ratio or with the most points as the best for example.
Is this the strongest line-up of clans in any event ever?
But spare a thought for TOFU this weekend, desperately trying to put together some teams. I imagine it goes something like this:
"Hmm, CoF's only got an 80% win rate on that map, he'll need some support."
"Can't be HA, he's only played it 50 times."
"OK, use BW then."
"BW won't play without Nikola, so we'll have to take Nik out of the trips."
"OMG! Do you think Seul can manage the trips on his own without Nik?"
"Better put cachejob in with him then, just to make sure."
"But if we do that we'll only be left with Dako, Trap & Iron Maid for the other trips."
"Jeez, do you think we're going to have to play Chuuuuck?"
"Well if it's not Chuuuuck, then we better play...."
LOL! That's hilarious.

I'm kind of surprised at how things have turned out. Be interesting to see who's gonna face the Regiment in the finals.

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:01 pm
by ahunda
Swifte wrote:IA has 5 in the bank, looking at 7 points if we can finish out the games we feel we are winning against TSM, and an 8th point if we can win our final ongoing game against AOC to stretch that match from a draw to a victory... still a pretty close game in my estimation.
When did you check the TSM games last ?
I have us at 3 wins, plus 3 games with advantage IA, plus 1-2 undecided.
I wouldn´t dare to make a call on that one yet ...
EDIT:
General Brock II wrote:LOL! That's hilarious.

I'm kind of surprised at how things have turned out. Be interesting to see who's gonna face the Regiment in the finals.

Regiments won´t be in the finals against any clan from this division.
You can only reach the finals of your own division.
Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:06 pm
by Swifte
ahunda wrote:Swifte wrote:IA has 5 in the bank, looking at 7 points if we can finish out the games we feel we are winning against TSM, and an 8th point if we can win our final ongoing game against AOC to stretch that match from a draw to a victory... still a pretty close game in my estimation.
When did you check the TSM games last ?
I have us at 3 wins, plus 3 games with advantage IA, plus 1-2 undecided.
I wouldn´t dare to make a call on that one yet ...
Checked right before I made the post... saw 4 I liked and 1 undecided. Just my opinion.
Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:07 pm
by ahunda
Well. I hope, you are right ...

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:34 pm
by betiko
I m pretty sure we ll be like 3 clans tied with 7. Is it head to head confrontation or game difference that counts first? Like cof football is confusing me lately!
Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:38 pm
by Swifte
betiko wrote:I m pretty sure we ll be like 3 clans tied with 7. Is it head to head confrontation or game difference that counts first? Like cof football is confusing me lately!
If tied by league points, I believe the tie-breaker is Phase 2 win percentage.
Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:11 pm
by Qwert
Swifte wrote:betiko wrote:I m pretty sure we ll be like 3 clans tied with 7. Is it head to head confrontation or game difference that counts first? Like cof football is confusing me lately!
If tied by league points, I believe the tie-breaker is Phase 2 win percentage.
League position is determined firstly by Total Points, then by Total Games Won, then by comparing Head-to-Head rounds between any tied teams
its this total games won,meant game diference?
Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:27 pm
by Rodion
Total games won, game difference and win percentage are the exact same thing since we are all playing 84 games.
Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:26 pm
by josko.ri
Rodion wrote:Total games won, game difference and win percentage are the exact same thing since we are all playing 84 games.
LOL

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:49 pm
by Chariot of Fire
Theoretically win percentage is not the same - not when a 'win' is classified as the result of each head-to-head (e.g. 7-5 being 1 win). So a clan finishing P7 W4 L3 would have a win percentage of 57%. Of course I appreciate what was meant was 'won games percentage', but for the avoidance of ambiguity and argument.....
Mr.Pedant
Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:58 am
by betiko
can we have a little overall update of the scores? is everyone going to end up with 8 or 7 points except afos?