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Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:05 pm
by Bruceswar
Lubawski wrote:danryan wrote:I think O&H has been underrated quite a bit - we're #6 in the RPI but voted 12??, but then again, I like playing with a chip on my shoulder. LOW suits us just fine.
Dan
khazalid wrote:hmm you think george? tofu at no.2? dunno, i think its a little hard on IA and KORT and O&H. and empire are a bit higher than they ought to be too.
If we were going by the most current ladder, KORT would be 16th. Don't get me wrong, they have a lot of talent, but they have tied G1 and beat the Brethren (who are winless and at the bottom of the bottom). I don't see how you can put down TOFU being #2 while claiming KORT is getting a bad end of things. IA and EMPIRE could have easily swapped places. We have shown ourselves for longer though (7-1 in challenges in case you weren't aware), so I'm glad we got the edge. Hopefully we'll meet soon to see who deserves it.
O&H is on a good streak as well. I thought they would have been up a spot or two, but again, look at your defeats versus your losses. Certainly the LOW win is huge, and you also took down Mythology and the Eternal Empire (both very low seeded here 14 and 19 respectively). But you lost to BSS who is ranked above you here and also Divine Domination who got a 15th seed here. I think if you have one more big win that will put you higher up on the map. Certainly you look like a tough up and coming clan.
You really did not say that with a straight face did you? Seeing as Season 1 you finished 26 back of the winner, and are down 18 as of right now in Season 2. No offense to Empire, but the league is a good measuring stick of a clans strength. You can say what you want about the setup of the league, season 1 or 2, but all clans have the same setup. Season 1 finished just about where everybody should be. And season 2 is not having many surprises other than THOTA laying over and dying a painful death these last 2 weeks.
Say what you want about where people should be ranked or whatever, but the league tells the story in plain numbers.
Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:10 pm
by khazalid
hey, nobody was more surprised than us! there was some crazy shit going on in those games, i think it's a bit unfair to say we rolled over...
Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:13 pm
by the.killing.44
Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:25 pm
by Georgerx7di
reptile wrote:danryan wrote:I think O&H has been underrated quite a bit - we're #6 in the RPI but voted 12??, but then again, I like playing with a chip on my shoulder. LOW suits us just fine.
Dan
i think #12 is underrating you no doubt, but you need to prove yourselves a little more, before wiping the floor with us you didnt have the best track record. maybe challenge empire or something (i like them, but think they are a little overrated) use that to your advantage
And besides.... you are going to need it after we get you guys back for that ass whoopin you put on us... never again my friend... never again. you beat us way worse than thota and tsm combined!!!
Just a ? for TSM, why again did they decide not to participate while everyone else did? scared?

It's quite simple. Most of the monkeys don't want to play in it. We've been playing cla and this 80-game war against thota for months now and we're getting burnt out. Some of our top players are loosing interest before these two things are over. It's not easy to play well in cla and against thota, as you can see from some of the clans who have won some impressive clan wars and yet are getting spanked in cla, or the other way round for others.
We take a lot of pride in our games and give it our all, but after thota and cla, we want to stop playing these stressful games for a bit. This conquer cup is starting too soon after cla and thota end. We really don't want to commit to potentially 4 more clan wars, culminating in possibly another 68 games against thota. Plus we would be starting season 3 of cla before this was over. If the cup could have waited till maybe mid april, we might have been able to muster up enough guys to join.
We could only get about 4 or 5 guys who would commit to this, so...
Sorry for the long response reptile

Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:34 pm
by the.killing.44
[quote="Georgerx7di"Plus we would be starting season 3 of cla before this was over. If the cup could have waited till maybe mid april, we might have been able to muster up enough guys to join. [/quote]
You can only get one of the above.
Not disagreeing with your decision (it makes a lot of sense), jus' sayin'
Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:35 pm
by Lubawski
Foxglove wrote:Lubawski wrote:If we were going by the most current ladder, KORT would be 16th. Don't get me wrong, they have a lot of talent, but they have tied G1 and beat the Brethren (who are winless and at the bottom of the bottom).
True enough!
We're not doing too poorly in the clan league so far, though.

Very true. Clearly you have many good doubles teams. That's half the battle. I wasn't putting you guys down, just saying you haven't shown it in challenges yet, which I know you will. I think the lack of challenges you have had is what works against you in that respect. Cows are tough to get moving, but when you do, they go full steam ahead without really taking notice of all the damage they do around them.
Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:44 pm
by Lubawski
Bruceswar wrote:You really did not say that with a straight face did you? Seeing as Season 1 you finished 26 back of the winner, and are down 18 as of right now in Season 2. No offense to Empire, but the league is a good measuring stick of a clans strength. You can say what you want about the setup of the league, season 1 or 2, but all clans have the same setup. Season 1 finished just about where everybody should be. And season 2 is not having many surprises other than THOTA laying over and dying a painful death these last 2 weeks.
Say what you want about where people should be ranked or whatever, but the league tells the story in plain numbers.
Are you kidding Bruce. The first season was all doubles and initially was not going to count for anything. We used it as practice games. We finished just above .500, which was great considering our approach. This league has 50% doubles as well. Meanwhile, you are active in the forum saying that doubles are not a good indicator of a clan's ability because it has too much luck, and trips and quads are what should be focused on in challenges and the league. A bit hypocritical with your last comment. At the same time, you are saying that 8 game sets against a clan is more telling than 40-60 games? Get your head out of your ass before you spout out at the mouth Bruce.
I hope to see you in the second round so we can settle this where it matters.
Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:50 pm
by Lubawski
the.killing.44 wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=442&t=91307
Did people forget this?

True enough, but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Do you want to put up the links to our 7 wins as well?
Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:53 pm
by Namor
So AoC can start our war with LotZ, once both clans are ready? Rather than wait for Feb 13th.
I'm assuming that we need not keep a running tally of games per player, since there is no 15 game restriction?
Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:55 pm
by the.killing.44
Lubawski wrote:the.killing.44 wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=442&t=91307
Did people forget this?

True enough, but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Yeah, because people obviously overlooked our loss to O&H.
Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:56 pm
by reptile
Lubawski wrote:the.killing.44 wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=442&t=91307
Did people forget this?

True enough, but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Do you want to put up the links to our 7 wins as well?
Awwww cmon Lubawski, that is just one of them that we are proud of, take it as a compliment. Besides, we like our glass house

. But if you must, go ahead.
Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:07 pm
by Lubawski
reptile wrote:Lubawski wrote:the.killing.44 wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=442&t=91307
Did people forget this?

True enough, but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Do you want to put up the links to our 7 wins as well?
Awwww cmon Lubawski, that is just one of them that we are proud of, take it as a compliment. Besides, we like our glass house

. But if you must, go ahead.
Hey, I ranked you guys 4th I think. I am sure the O&H challenge was a fluke and you will prove me right here soon, especially if you are around for this whole think Reptile. I haven't forgotten our 31 round trips game. It still hurts.
Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:30 pm
by karelpietertje
Lubawski wrote:Foxglove wrote:Lubawski wrote:If we were going by the most current ladder, KORT would be 16th. Don't get me wrong, they have a lot of talent, but they have tied G1 and beat the Brethren (who are winless and at the bottom of the bottom).
True enough!
We're not doing too poorly in the clan league so far, though.

Very true. Clearly you have many good doubles teams. That's half the battle. I wasn't putting you guys down, just saying you haven't shown it in challenges yet, which I know you will. I think the lack of challenges you have had is what works against you in that respect. Cows are tough to get moving, but when you do, they go full steam ahead without really taking notice of all the damage they do around them.
Hehe we'll do our best to prove ourselves Lubawski, thanks for your faith in us!
However, you have to admit that the tone in your first post wasn't that positive

It kind of made me look forward to the next time we meet, teeheehee

Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:36 pm
by Lubawski
karelpietertje wrote:Hehe we'll do our best to prove ourselves Lubawski, thanks for your faith in us!
However, you have to admit that the tone in your first post wasn't that positive

It kind of made me look forward to the next time we meet, teeheehee

It wasn't meant to be negative. I like Cows. I was just disagreeing with Khaz.
Now, my post to Bruce, that was negative. Sometimes Bruce is brilliant. Other times... well, we can't all be like Blitz

Edit: thank god your sig is not allowed in the games. I cannot concentrate just looking at that thing.
Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:39 pm
by Lubawski
the.killing.44 wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=442&t=91307
Did people forget this?

Phew. Sorry for posting so much, but the above link used to be my "most active forum topic" in my profile.

It reminded me all too well of that beating. Now I finally passed that with this thread.
Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:05 pm
by Chuuuuck
Namor wrote:So AoC can start our war with LotZ, once both clans are ready? Rather than wait for Feb 13th.
I'm assuming that we need not keep a running tally of games per player, since there is no 15 game restriction?
Yes, AoC and LotZ can start anytime they both agree. As I changed in the first post, please put "C.C." at the beginning of the title for the forum you create. However, if either clan disagrees, they don't have to start until February 13. But if you all both want to you can start tonight for all I care.
Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:08 pm
by Chuuuuck
I like all of the trash talk coming now. Should be interesting to see how all of these games turn out.
And I agree with Lubawski on one thing. I would love to meet KORT in the 2nd round. Obviously a few of there players think EMPIRE is over rated and I am excited to prove they belong behind us!
But, more importantly, we have to win our first round game and they still have to beat G1 after their last tie to them!!
Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:24 pm
by jpcloet
pmchugh wrote:Will these games count as actual clan challenges in their own right and will results be included in any future ladders?
They would qualify. Good to have a tournament like this that will connect most of the clans. A few B rated clans could make the jump to A,however, they certainly have their work cut out for them based ont he rankings.
Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:03 pm
by GrimReaper.
will this count towards the ladder?
Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:04 pm
by Chuuuuck
GrimReaper. wrote:will this count towards the ladder?
LoL. Really? You couldn't read the post RIGHT BEFORE yours.
Sorry, don't mean that to be mean but you are the 3rd one to ask and it was just answered directly before you asked.
Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:15 pm
by Foxglove
Chuuuuck wrote:GrimReaper. wrote:will this count towards the ladder?
LoL. Really? You couldn't read the post RIGHT BEFORE yours.
Sorry, don't mean that to be mean but you are the 3rd one to ask and it was just answered directly before you asked.
hey chuuuck, I don't see the answer in your response, and I was just curious: will the results of these challenges count towards the ladder?

Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:18 pm
by Georgerx7di
So, are the results from this thing going to count towards the ladder?

Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:20 pm
by Chuuuuck
LOL thanks guys
Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:41 am
by reptile
Lubawski wrote: I haven't forgotten our 31 round trips game. It still hurts.
Me neither, it is one of my favorites
For your viewing pleasure:
Game 5446357
Re: Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:46 am
by samuelc812
reptile wrote:Lubawski wrote: I haven't forgotten our 31 round trips game. It still hurts.
Me neither, it is one of my favorites
For your viewing pleasure:
Game 5446357
That was a great game
~Sam