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Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V17 (p17)
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:22 pm
by RedBaron0
Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V17 (p17)
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:39 pm
by cairnswk
OK RB0, thanks for that...working on it

Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V17 (p17)
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:49 am
by RedBaron0
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=127&t=109948Based on the comments by cairns in this above thread, this map will go on vacation.... unless cairns changes his mind, of which I'll give a bit of time to hopefully happen.

Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V18
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:46 am
by cairnswk
cairns will stay until this map and Stalingrad are completed, while he waiting on Das SchloSS tweaks.
For now, so that Lord Voldemort can get the xml done. here is version 18 to see where changes have to be made for centering.

[bigimg]http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282/cairnswk/Silly_Mid-On/silly-mid-on-cricket_V18L.jpg[/bigimg]
Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V17 (p17)
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:25 am
by Gypsys Kiss
Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V17 (p17)
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:38 pm
by RedBaron0
cairnswk wrote:cairns will stay until this map and Stalingrad are completed, while he waiting on Das SchloSS tweaks.
Sweetness!
Okay, couple things. The map is looking tons clearer!
Only a bit of blur remains around colored titles in the top legend, it might be on purpose, so it just might be me.
I'm not overly fond of the field texture, but then again I'm an American who is used the criss-cross patterns normally seen on a baseball field. I'd love to see some other opinions on this, but either way I think something that shows a little something more "grassy" might work a little better.
The purple army circles seem to be not filled in, the rings around the circles, you can kinda see the outlines but the color is missing. ZS6 looks to be filled in though.
The word "Father" in Father Time Bar is getting lost in the frothy head of the beer icon.

The glow is just missing, I believe.
Are those flags normal Cricket flags on the top of the towers? They just look like the flag of Spain to me, Aussie and Brit flags would seem more appropriate, but again I'm not sure if that's the way it's supposed to be.
Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V17 (p17)
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:33 pm
by Gypsys Kiss
The flag is the MCC(Marylebone Cricket Club) flag. Also affectionately referred to as 'egg and bacon'.
Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V17 (p17)
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:35 pm
by cairnswk
RedBaron0 wrote:cairnswk wrote:cairns will stay until this map and Stalingrad are completed, while he waiting on Das SchloSS tweaks.
Sweetness!
Okay, couple things. The map is looking tons clearer!
Only a bit of blur remains around colored titles in the top legend, it might be on purpose, so it just might be me.
Yes...the colours are causing the blur. I don't think it's an issue.
I'm not overly fond of the field texture, but then again I'm an American who is used the criss-cross patterns normally seen on a baseball field. I'd love to see some other opinions on this, but either way I think something that shows a little something more "grassy" might work a little better.
This is the way the cricket field is mowed. In a straight up and down pattern. I've worked out how to widen the pattern, so it should look more realistic now.
The purple army circles seem to be not filled in, the rings around the circles, you can kinda see the outlines but the color is missing. ZS6 looks to be filled in though.
All the purple (6) army circles are the same. I've changed the underlying black around them so that it is now even.
The word "Father" in Father Time Bar is getting lost in the frothy head of the beer icon.

The glow is just missing, I believe.
I've changed the lettering in those bars to be abbreviations, and in the xml i'll get Lord Voldemort to write them as
FTB1 - Father Time Bar
FTB2 - Full Toss Bar
OBar - Outfield Bar
CBar - Cricketer's Bar
TBar - Tavern Bar.
The position of the the bar army circles has also moved
Are those flags normal Cricket flags on the top of the towers? They just look like the flag of Spain to me, Aussie and Brit flags would seem more appropriate, but again I'm not sure if that's the way it's supposed to be.
At Lord Circket Ground, which is what this map is based on, you would see these (as already stated by Gypsys Kiss)
and in particular when an international match is in progress. I think they are quite representative of the field and very appropriate.
Version 19 below:

[bigimg]http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282/cairnswk/Silly_Mid-On/silly-mid-on-cricket_V19L-1.png[/bigimg]
Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V19 (p19)
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:47 pm
by thenobodies80
In the top legend, the batting team title. Can you increase the white of the text like the others.I think it will increase the readability.
I find very hard to see the police connections on the green, specially for PC1 and PC2, maybe try using the darker blue you've used for the circles ?
Credits are very hard to read.
Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V19 (p19)
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:01 pm
by cairnswk
thenobodies80 wrote:In the top legend, the batting team title. Can you increase the white of the text like the others.I think it will increase the readability.
I find very hard to see the police connections on the green, specially for PC1 and PC2, maybe try using the darker blue you've used for the circles ?
Credits are very hard to read.
Yes tnb80, i think this is occuring from the colour translations. I will replace the images above with the .png files.
Edit: That should be whole lot clearer now. Please F5 to see the changes.
Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V19 (p19)
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:37 pm
by thenobodies80
Wow! much better!

edit: A question, how attacks work for the media?

Atherton can attack 3rd umpire and Greig?
Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V19 (p19)
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:54 pm
by cairnswk
thenobodies80 wrote:Wow! much better!

edit: A question, how attacks work for the media?

Atherton can attack 3rd umpire and Greig?
Yes. they're all within one area.
Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V19 (p19)
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:04 am
by RedBaron0
Can we see a couple versions with numbers on the map and a vischeck, cairns?
Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V19 (p19)
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:38 am
by cairnswk
RedBaron0 wrote:Can we see a couple versions with numbers on the map and a vischeck, cairns?
Here's the vischeck...Lord V has the xml in process and i am waiting on it.

Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V19 (p19)
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:21 pm
by yeti_c
Ha - I thought we'd moved your map to India for a minute!!
C.
Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V19 (p19)
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:25 pm
by cairnswk
yeti_c wrote:Ha - I thought we'd moved your map to India for a minute!!
C.

Good one, C.
Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V20
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:28 pm
by cairnswk
OK, don't know if this is a good move or not.
I kinda liked the national colours on the fans, but they did nothing for the CB clarity.
So i've changed the colours to something more suitable, which gives a different and clearer CB map.
Still have to find a better colour for the batters, the yellow is not good for border determination.


Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V20 (p20)
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:48 pm
by natty dread
I like the change. I never really liked the 2-colour gradients you had before, they made the map look kinda cheesy IMO.
Only, the yellow seems too bright for my taste. Doesn't really fit with the rest of the colours. I would desaturate that a bit.
Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V21
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:46 pm
by cairnswk
natty_dread wrote:I like the change. I never really liked the 2-colour gradients you had before, they made the map look kinda cheesy IMO.
Only, the yellow seems too bright for my taste. Doesn't really fit with the rest of the colours. I would desaturate that a bit.
How does this look?
Yellow desaturated....and batters given same colour as the top legend


Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V21 (p20)
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:12 am
by natty dread
The yellow is much better... The batters also look fine.
I'm not a huge fan of the fielders colour though, somehow that colour combination makes the circles look fuzzy...
Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V21 (p20)
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:19 pm
by ender516
You may have desaturated the yellow a touch too far: it's not very different now from the Kiwi beige. Admittedly, they are quite separated in the stands, but a little more visual spread might be nice.
Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V21 (p20)
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:59 am
by natty dread
Hmm. Yes, ender has a point. They should be separated a bit more, colourwise.
Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V21 (p20)
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:08 pm
by cairnswk
ender516 wrote:You may have desaturated the yellow a touch too far: it's not very different now from the Kiwi beige. Admittedly, they are quite separated in the stands, but a little more visual spread might be nice.
natty_dread wrote:Hmm. Yes, ender has a point. They should be separated a bit more, colourwise.
OK, this should be better below.
natty_dread wrote:The yellow is much better... The batters also look fine.
I'm not a huge fan of the fielders colour though, somehow that colour combination makes the circles look fuzzy...
I don't think the colour combination makes the circles look fuzzy


Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V21 (p20)
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:41 pm
by cairnswk
If natty is a natural mapmaker then so is I !

Re: CRICKET: SMO [D,GP]V21 (p20)
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:54 pm
by natty dread
Yes, this looks better w.r.t. the calypso kings. However... The batting team looks very similar to the s.afr. proteas. Perhaps change one of them slightly?
Also, the fielding team circles still look kinda fuzzy... not sure if it's the colour combination or just the JPG file format, but... well, I'm not really sure if it's an issue, you have lots of stuff on this map so obviously you'll be short on colours to use... Still, perhaps you could try a slightly different hue for the fielding team.
Of course you're a natural, cairns... but you don't have a long white beard to show for it
