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Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:06 pm
by whitestazn88
yeah, because clearly all of these maps can be improved a bit. thats what the process of the foundry is for, but this is just sped up to the max
can't wait to vote again
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:29 pm
by bryguy
LOL I just knew it!
F I was thinking was probably wm
G definately looked like something rj would do. It looks to me like a brazil version of the iceland map, which made me think it was his
and H I thought was either Oaktown or Cairns.
wow im a good guesser!

cant wait for more voting
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Round 1]
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:39 pm
by AndyDufresne
oaktown wrote:InkL0sed wrote:There are 100 votes cast.
sure, but with all my multis 15 of those votes are mine, so technically we're still in the 80s.
100 is pretty good for a foundry vote, but i wonder how many votes this would get if it was in GD? It'd be nice if the second round could reach a larger audience.
Now that we have the news feed on the Home Page, we can post when Round 2 starts...to see if we get any stray votes.
--Andy
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:03 pm
by oaktown
i did a bit of work to my map, and I'm not sure if I've overdone it or not - is it bad form to post an image and ask for feedback at this stage?
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:16 pm
by MrBenn
oaktown wrote:i did a bit of work to my map, and I'm not sure if I've overdone it or not - is it bad form to post an image and ask for feedback at this stage?
I think that WM has already done that?
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:18 pm
by yeti_c
oaktown wrote:i did a bit of work to my map, and I'm not sure if I've overdone it or not - is it bad form to post an image and ask for feedback at this stage?
Agreed - post away.
C.
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:22 pm
by mibi
oaktown wrote:i did a bit of work to my map, and I'm not sure if I've overdone it or not - is it bad form to post an image and ask for feedback at this stage?
I don't vote for Rule violators.
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:29 pm
by oaktown
alright, how about a compromise of sorts... the link to the latest image is below; take a look if you want, or if you consider it a 'spoiler' you can ignore it.
I'll take any kind of feedback, but I'm most interested in whether or not the image better captures a 1900 feel... new elements, colors muted a bit, some work done to make the center of the book more realistic including better use of light source/shadow and 'squishing' letters together in the crease, etc.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r76/ ... vamp04.jpg
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:31 pm
by Night Strike
I like it Oaktown. Perhaps a bit more off-set on the territory borders when they cross the page seam.
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:32 pm
by yeti_c
Love the middle section - the outer parts of the map are very crisp though... suggest you "grunge" them more.
Otherwise I really like the direction you're heading in.
C.
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:35 pm
by InkL0sed
I don't like the white nothing-ness behind the book that you can see at the corners of the image. Add something, anything behind the book, and I'll feel better about it...
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:40 pm
by RjBeals
Feedback:
I like the overall map, but i think you did overdo the center fold of the book. It's too much now. i also think Yeti is correct about the grunge. See how Widow's map is very hand drawn looking? I think you need to be more in that direction to pull this look off. The map is just too smooth. The Grunge will give it that old feeling. What would be really cool is if you could apply an overall "bend" to the pages so they didn't feel so flat.
Way to go Oak!
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:44 pm
by RjBeals
Since everyone else posted theres, here's what I submitted to gim. I also added more texture, and gave the map an overall red hue (instead of the blue before). Tweaked the colors. Added minimap, removed the flag (which Marv may kill me for), changed the title, kept the map tilted so North is no longer straight up (which Marv may also kill me for), and some other small things.
If I win, I will probably add a compass like I did for Italy showing true North. I also had to tilt Italy so the map would fit in these horrible size constraints.
http://www.rjbeals.com/Brazil/Brazil-RjBeals-round2.jpg[edit]
I guess I have one more day, so any feedback for me and I could possibly get it applied
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:51 pm
by Kaplowitz
I love the old title RJ....
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:52 pm
by oaktown
minimap is a great addition - that corner was the one thing that troubled me about the first version.
I like the fact that the country is tilted off of north - it gives you a lot more room to work with, and doesn't at all change the shape of the country. If marv gives you a bad time for that I'll have your back.
Showing a flag or other symbol was one of Marv's stipulations from the start, but I have to admit I like the map much better without it. I'm trying to figure out where it could go, but I'm not feeling it. What if you just ran the "Ordem E Progreso" banner across the map somehow, as a nod to the flag?
edit: looking back i did like the old font on the title... it had some spirit to it.
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:53 pm
by RjBeals
Kaplowitz wrote:I love the old title RJ....
I kind of did also, but some heavy hitters didn't.
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:05 pm
by ZeakCytho
Rj, could you rotate Brazil properly and stick the stuff that would overlap the southern continent in the bottom right corner? The slant is bugging me a bit.
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:14 pm
by edbeard
oak the center bit is overdone. mostly the redness is too much for me.
rj, you could put the title on top of the flag perhaps?
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:49 pm
by RjBeals
edbeard wrote:rj, you could put the title on top of the flag perhaps?
Tried.. But doesn't look good.
Also tried the coat of arms, but it doesn't fit. If I move on, I'll work on incorporating it somehow.
As far as the tilt - It's not that easy to just rotate it. It would be a ton of work at this point. I would prefer not to unless Marv has a big issue with it.
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:53 pm
by edbeard
also, rj, I preferred the colour of the impassable border in your first version. not sure if it just wasn't possible to fix my issue with that without changing the colours
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:51 pm
by RjBeals
edbeard wrote:
G:
1. the colours of the continents make the impassable lines look strange and different depending on where they are located. eg: yellow vs grey or light blue vs red. maybe have an outer shadow or stroke to make it uniform
You mean this issue?
You and Pamoa mentioned the same thing, so I futzed around with the impassables. I prefer them now to what they were on the original. It's not hard to switch - but I'll wait for a couple more comments.
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:54 pm
by oaktown
Alright, grunged it up... I love photoshop brushes. Bonus points to the first to find the thumb print.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r76/ ... vamp05.jpgRj - I'd suggested just adding the motto, Ordem E Progresso, possibly on a banner as it appears on the flag. That might be enough to satisfy the flag requirement.
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:55 pm
by yeti_c
Much better Oak - bit worried about your small map.
C.
Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:56 pm
by Night Strike
The fingerprint is on the right side near Rio de Janero.
Sorry, that's all I had to say.

Re: Official Brazil REVAMP competition [Pre Round 2]
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:58 pm
by oaktown
yeti_c wrote:Much better Oak - bit worried about your small map.
The small map will require a bit of work... I'm not worried about the army circles as I've got more space to work with than marv's original, but I may have to crank up the point size of the font a bit across the map to make everything readable in small. The hardest text to read are the atlas entries, which aren't important to gameplay anyway.