Conquer Club

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:22 pm**

@JG- I go for CLEVER because I hate him with a firey passion... No joking, but because I didnt like his faulty logic and such. If you read anything he said, you would agree with this, and I know your vote is on him so that is good to me.

@betiko- Quit barking up that tree. Focus on something right in front of you instead of the hunch that you have. If he is mason it is 100% provable when/if his partner will come forward.

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:16 pm**

Betiko conviction leads me to lead that he actually has some evidence for what he said, but thats all a sideshow for now so I hope everyone won't distract us.

Also, if sg6 was an sk, then / would likely be dead, which is somewhat supported by either one of the trackers knowing thats who he visited?

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:20 pm**

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
betiko wrote:
TheCrown wrote:
betiko wrote:
TheCrown wrote:@ betiko... you are making no sense. I am town, so if you want a trade-off, that would mean you are scum. What part of "I can prove 100% I am town" did you not understand? Really, let's focus on the other leads we have... you are barking up the wrong tree looking at me.

lol, no need to bark, in fact i am not going after you today. there is time for this. if i get night killed or even lynched there will be trade off, don't worry, you will all get my point with my character's flavour. this 1-1 is a done deal I've already found you.

And I have told you, unless you are scum, you are totally way off. I don't want you to lead a crusade against me, because it will be a waste of time. For the record, I am Mason. Like I said, I'm 100% provable.... now will you focus somewhere else?!?!?!

go ahead tell me more. so in what way a mason cannot be scum? mason is not necesairly town aligned, but good to know you are a scum mason, just knew about the scum part (if ever the mason part is true..)

this kinda confused me? are you soft claiming mason as well

in what way am I softclaiming mason? I don't see what possibly confuses you there.
he claims mason and i know he's scum, I just add up both and it's a role. a mafia aligned mason; even if i'm not sure he's telling the truth about being mason (but it is very possible he's telling the truth about this)

And yes NG1, i do need to bark at that tree because this is not a small incident and I wanted everyone to remember this till the end. If I get killed you guys will need to focus on him and you will know why when the time comes. It's just a point I had to make while being alive because I didn't want to be brought to the grave someday with that secret.

Clever, you were supposed to disclose your character after school init?

fastposted.

leehar, maybe there is a roleblocker in the mafia? would be strange. another theory would be that SG7 is a poisoner (although from the character's flavour it's spider venom kills instantly). maybe / will die tonight because of last night's visit..

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:54 pm**

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
new guy1 wrote:
Leehar wrote:Also, I apologize if I right these huge posts that apparently confuse some people (you guys are probs skimming scum ), but it's just that I seem to miss a lot of the rt convo's that go on between 3 and 6 am my time, and so have a couple of pages to read through and comment on

It is no problem, and I like the big post. It sums up alot along with giving your opinion, its nice . However, Clever is in the forums right now, and I will expect a claim from him soon.

sorry just checking in (have it pulled up on my computer just im using a different tab just checking into one game at a time) but anyway i really dont wanna claim so ill just say one thing

i have a few powers that i can use at night one which was to silence someone and i thought it was interesting and i have never used it before so i wanted to use it(only now do i realize how important that power is) but i get all my powers back when i have used them all one time (but after using them i have to wait to "recharge" (one night) i have never had a role like this so im a tiny bit confused but that is what i know about it.

Killing a person's ability to talk seems extremely counter intuitive to be a town ability... I mean, even if the target is mafia, you still want to be able to question him or her, I don't see any situation where town would need, or want to use this.

I'm sorry, but this just seems wrong, unvote vote clever

Also @ Hippo, do you agree with my plan to prove our abilities?

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:54 pm**

Betiko says he has something on crown,ok backburner for a minute.

NG1 your thought on masons this game. Its been bouncing around in my head since crown said he could 100% prove his innocence.

It got me to thinking about SG7 and some other things.

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:06 pm**

Hello! I probably won't be able to post on back to back days

again, but there's been a lot of discussion from yesterday
This is D2 POST 2/4

I do not know my alignment or what my night action does. I

assume, from what betiko posted about The Wanderer (thanks

Betiko!), that I will get activated at night and become an SK.

But it wouldn't make sense for my activation to be part of my

role unless there'd be a chance that I could go either way. I'm

guessing I could become an SK or a Town Vig, or something else

(my role doesn't say anything about it!)

p.s. It's funny how everyone came down and partied at my house

:lol:

About the tracker claims: I find them very suspicious,

especially because the info was already right there. I'd keep an

eye on / and hippo because of that. It might actually be their

role, but it seems like a very easy fakeclaim. And plus the fact

that NG1 said not to claim, but hippo very first D2 post came

out with a full claim. It might have been a clever way to get

their fakeclaim out there and have it believed. I have seen

games where duplicate roles happen, but it is very rare and

usually a sign of 1 or more fakeclaims. Other than that, I

really have no other suspicions of either of them. We'll see

what night action they have tonight. If they lie, we'll catch

them pretty easy I think.

Also I'd like to say about the poisoner speculation: if there

are NKing roles (which last night showed no sign of such), they

might NK / tonight to get me lynched. Hopefully the Day Scene

will help us figure out which happened (if that does happen).

Wow, we got 5 claims today... that's a lot :shock:

That means over half the roles are exposed (b/c of mason)

I probably didn't cover everything yet... but I don't remember

all that I was asked.

Oh, and I had never heard of this character before... what's she

from? She sounds like a mix between the joker and spiderman

Anyway, carry on.

Right now, I find players like jgordon the scummiest, mainly for

his excessive skimming.

VOTE JGORDON

Pay more attention, dude

I probably won't be back for days (only 2 posts left

) so I

probably won't be able to unvote anytime soon.

I'd also like to point out that I couldn't have possibly been a

killing role. No docs or roleblockers targeted me or /. It's

possible / got doc protected but ghostly (doc) died yesterday

and I got a PM saying nothing happened like a Magikarp using

Splash. I wouldn't have got that if my role wasn't a little

investigative (investigative as in investigating who I am and

what my role is). So I can't possibly be a killing role.

However, there is speculation that I might become one depending

on circumstances.

Sorry, this post was done out of order.

I'm going to get you back clever for silencing me

Anyway, carry on town.

FASTPOSTED

UNVOTE VOTE CLEVER I have some

questions for you: did you DK (day kill) ghostly yesterday as a

test of your powers? How many powers do you have and what do

they do? Answer these questions unless discussion says to

otherwise.

FOS still on: hippo, /, jgordon

I'll probably post in about 3-4 days depending on when deadline

is.

-SG7 (

)

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:10 pm**

My thought on the mason, again with betiko's conviction, is that it possibly could have been a trick by Crown that he was masoned to somebody, when instead they were cum-buddies and can talk to themselves that way. I'm just disappointed that we didn't get Crown to expose his scum-buddy if that was the case.

But again, it's now come to the point where we have so many threads to follow, and has muddied the waters to the extent that we can't actually pick out a single dirty sheet any more

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:13 pm**

Fastposted,
I can't believe I skimmed the whole Wanderer discussions

Was probs in one of the earlier pages when I had to go through a ton

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:32 pm**

Leehar wrote:My thought on the mason, again with betiko's conviction, is that it possibly could have been a trick by Crown that he was masoned to somebody, when instead they were cum-buddies and can talk to themselves that way. I'm just disappointed that we didn't get Crown to expose his scum-buddy if that was the case.

But again, it's now come to the point where we have so many threads to follow, and has muddied the waters to the extent that we can't actually pick out a single dirty sheet any more

I wasn't thinking masons could go that far!! :mrgreen:

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:45 pm**

Offical Vote Count

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Some7hingCLEVER-L2 (Bekito, Jgordon, /, SG7)
jgordon1111-L5 (jak111)
Thehippo-L5 (Leehar)

Deadline is April 11th at around 12 (noon)

betiko wrote:
Leehar wrote:My thought on the mason, again with betiko's conviction, is that it possibly could have been a trick by Crown that he was masoned to somebody, when instead they were cum-buddies and can talk to themselves that way. I'm just disappointed that we didn't get Crown to expose his scum-buddy if that was the case.

But again, it's now come to the point where we have so many threads to follow, and has muddied the waters to the extent that we can't actually pick out a single dirty sheet any more

I wasn't thinking masons could go that far!!

LOLed when i saw that too, you just made it bid and red, lol

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:58 pm**

Well to start I really don't like TheCrown's claim, since mason normally comes with some other type of role aligned with it. Yes it is provable, but could also be faked very easily if he were mafia, by having one of his buddies show up and say they were masoned together. Also masons don't have to be of the same alignment to be put together. So he could be mafia, and have a mason who is town (yes this may seem a bit off, but very possible).

I also have a feeling that Betiko is softclaiming some kind of investigation role. But if you are a cop, JOAT, or some other investigation based role, you should have come out right from the start of the day with your new information. I also really didn't like you pushing TheCrown so far as to forcing a claim with just 1 person behind the push (that is partly TC's fault for claiming). We already have to many claims out their this early in the game.

I don't really like what Clever did with his random use of the silence, he should have PMed the mod for a better description of his abilities if he were confused. He probably wasn't able to do the day killing, but was someone else. But it was also very ballsy to use it on day 1, they should have waited until their was some kind of confirmation about some player, or a better gut feeling than going off of stuff from day 1.

I will need to think, and re-read some of this stuff to try and get a better understanding of waht is going on (it can get confusing going through over 3 pages of text at 1 time...)

Hopefully I will be around a little more once this week finishes up.

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:04 pm**

shieldgenerator7 wrote:Hello! I probably won't be able to post on back to back days

again, but there's been a lot of discussion from yesterday
This is D2 POST 2/4

I do not know my alignment or what my night action does. I

assume, from what betiko posted about The Wanderer (thanks

Betiko!), that I will get activated at night and become an SK.

But it wouldn't make sense for my activation to be part of my

role unless there'd be a chance that I could go either way. I'm

guessing I could become an SK or a Town Vig, or something else

(my role doesn't say anything about it!)

p.s. It's funny how everyone came down and partied at my house

About the tracker claims: I find them very suspicious,

especially because the info was already right there. I'd keep an

eye on / and hippo because of that. It might actually be their

role, but it seems like a very easy fakeclaim. And plus the fact

that NG1 said not to claim, but hippo very first D2 post came

out with a full claim. It might have been a clever way to get

their fakeclaim out there and have it believed. I have seen

games where duplicate roles happen, but it is very rare and

usually a sign of 1 or more fakeclaims. Other than that, I

really have no other suspicions of either of them. We'll see

what night action they have tonight. If they lie, we'll catch

them pretty easy I think.

Also I'd like to say about the poisoner speculation: if there

are NKing roles (which last night showed no sign of such), they

might NK / tonight to get me lynched. Hopefully the Day Scene

will help us figure out which happened (if that does happen).

Wow, we got 5 claims today... that's a lot
That means over half the roles are exposed (b/c of mason)

I probably didn't cover everything yet... but I don't remember

all that I was asked.

Oh, and I had never heard of this character before... what's she

from? She sounds like a mix between the joker and spiderman

Anyway, carry on.

Right now, I find players like jgordon the scummiest, mainly for

his excessive skimming. VOTE JGORDON

Pay more attention, dude
I probably won't be back for days (only 2 posts left ) so I

probably won't be able to unvote anytime soon.

I'd also like to point out that I couldn't have possibly been a

killing role. No docs or roleblockers targeted me or /. It's

possible / got doc protected but ghostly (doc) died yesterday

and I got a PM saying nothing happened like a Magikarp using

Splash. I wouldn't have got that if my role wasn't a little

investigative (investigative as in investigating who I am and

what my role is). So I can't possibly be a killing role.

However, there is speculation that I might become one depending

on circumstances.

Sorry, this post was done out of order.

I'm going to get you back clever for silencing me

Anyway, carry on town.

FASTPOSTED

UNVOTE VOTE CLEVER I have some

questions for you: did you DK (day kill) ghostly yesterday as a

test of your powers? How many powers do you have and what do

they do? Answer these questions unless discussion says to

otherwise.

FOS still on: hippo, /, jgordon

I'll probably post in about 3-4 days depending on when deadline

is.

-SG7 ( )

ok so the questions adressed to me:
no i think i already said that i had nothing to do with that kill. i have three powers and after the three are all used then i have to wait one night to get them back. i REALLY dont wanna give them away but if i have to i will. you already know one is silence (ill adress another question i saw but dont remember who wrote. i dont know why i was given a silencing role maybe its just something CRAZY wanted to see lol honestly i dont know. i hope taht answers your question).

fastposted
sorry i used it when i get a role i have never had before i get antsy and wanna try it out. if i was in my right mind i would have not done it sorry

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:08 pm**

I loled at safari's typo. Anyways, masons dont USUALLY come with another role from past experience, but CAN. I fully believe that there could be a mason group in this game.

fastposted- JOAT's from my past experience come with four actions like doc, invesigate, one shot, and follow (or something). I dont think I have ever seen one with 3 actions, however it could be possible.

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:10 pm**

Disregaurd the fastpost, I dont know what I must have been smoking to think there were four.

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:10 pm**

Sorry to have claimed, but I seem to be in a pissing match with Betiko and I'm not going to back down. I don't know what he saw, if he was busdriven, or some other shinanigans happened to him. Anyone feel free to track, watch or whatever on me during the night time... and you will see me go and converse with my mason wonder twin. All this to say that Betiko has distracted me and probably some others and that is NOTED!

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:13 pm**

TheCrown wrote:Sorry to have claimed, but I seem to be in a pissing match with Betiko and I'm not going to back down. I don't know what he saw, if he was busdriven, or some other shinanigans happened to him. Anyone feel free to track, watch or whatever on me during the night time... and you will see me go and converse with my mason wonder twin. All this to say that Betiko has distracted me and probably some others and that is NOTED!

Betiko was focused on just you. When I am looking for scum I usually tell because they are aiming at multiple targets to give themselves a better chance of drawing attention off of them instead of getting an accurate scum lynch. You may keep your notes, but I dont think Betiko is scum because he was focused on you the whole time... Maybe a lyncher since he didnt seem to want to let up?

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:26 pm**

new guy1 wrote:
TheCrown wrote:Sorry to have claimed, but I seem to be in a pissing match with Betiko and I'm not going to back down. I don't know what he saw, if he was busdriven, or some other shinanigans happened to him. Anyone feel free to track, watch or whatever on me during the night time... and you will see me go and converse with my mason wonder twin. All this to say that Betiko has distracted me and probably some others and that is NOTED!

Betiko was focused on just you. When I am looking for scum I usually tell because they are aiming at multiple targets to give themselves a better chance of drawing attention off of them instead of getting an accurate scum lynch. You may keep your notes, but I dont think Betiko is scum because he was focused on you the whole time... Maybe a lyncher since he didnt seem to want to let up?

ya maybe lyncher. that would explain why he was only looking at him
but to answer your other post about three roles instead of four (if they usually have four. only been in one game with a JOAT.). i would assume im a special JOAT since i can get my powers back (actually im not even sure if a regular one back) but if not that would explain my missing fourth power(gaining my power back maybe is a power.)

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:14 pm**

TheCrown wrote:Sorry to have claimed, but I seem to be in a pissing match with Betiko and I'm not going to back down. I don't know what he saw, if he was busdriven, or some other shinanigans happened to him. Anyone feel free to track, watch or whatever on me during the night time... and you will see me go and converse with my mason wonder twin. All this to say that Betiko has distracted me and probably some others and that is NOTED!

crown do you know what i mean when I say exxor?

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:22 pm**

skillfusniper33 wrote:Well to start I really don't like TheCrown's claim, since mason normally comes with some other type of role aligned with it. Yes it is provable, but could also be faked very easily if he were mafia, by having one of his buddies show up and say they were masoned together. Also masons don't have to be of the same alignment to be put together. So he could be mafia, and have a mason who is town (yes this may seem a bit off, but very possible).

I also have a feeling that Betiko is softclaiming some kind of investigation role. But if you are a cop, JOAT, or some other investigation based role, you should have come out right from the start of the day with your new information. I also really didn't like you pushing TheCrown so far as to forcing a claim with just 1 person behind the push (that is partly TC's fault for claiming). We already have to many claims out their this early in the game.

I don't really like what Clever did with his random use of the silence, he should have PMed the mod for a better description of his abilities if he were confused. He probably wasn't able to do the day killing, but was someone else. But it was also very ballsy to use it on day 1, they should have waited until their was some kind of confirmation about some player, or a better gut feeling than going off of stuff from day 1.

I will need to think, and re-read some of this stuff to try and get a better understanding of waht is going on (it can get confusing going through over 3 pages of text at 1 time...)

Hopefully I will be around a little more once this week finishes up.

flawed logic there. did you pay attention to how day 2 started? You say something and it's oposite in the same paragraph.
Also I don't really care if you liked my action or not as I don't know your alignment. I know what I did is usefull info for later and a prejudice for scums.

regarding /, excellent point. why the hell would a town aligned character have a silencer ability? why use it now? are you that bad clever at this that you would just use your ability on sg7 just for fun without intention of doing something usefull?

also could there be 3 factions in this game? i m more and more inclined to think so.

a last thought: ghost being a droid, and day killed, I wouldn't be surprised to see that it s just part of the game scenario, and as a droid he could come back repaired. robots don t die...

fastposted

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:27 pm**

jgordon1111 wrote:
TheCrown wrote:Sorry to have claimed, but I seem to be in a pissing match with Betiko and I'm not going to back down. I don't know what he saw, if he was busdriven, or some other shinanigans happened to him. Anyone feel free to track, watch or whatever on me during the night time... and you will see me go and converse with my mason wonder twin. All this to say that Betiko has distracted me and probably some others and that is NOTED!

crown do you know what i mean when I say exxor?

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:05 pm**

betiko wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:
TheCrown wrote:Sorry to have claimed, but I seem to be in a pissing match with Betiko and I'm not going to back down. I don't know what he saw, if he was busdriven, or some other shinanigans happened to him. Anyone feel free to track, watch or whatever on me during the night time... and you will see me go and converse with my mason wonder twin. All this to say that Betiko has distracted me and probably some others and that is NOTED!

crown do you know what i mean when I say exxor?

Thats what I was getting at Betiko,but I wanted him to tell me to see if he did his homework or jumped into a fakeclaim without making sure of it.

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:43 pm**

umm im at l-1

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:50 pm**

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:umm im at l-1

EBWOP
i read the quote i did of sg7 twice my bad its only l-2

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:05 pm**

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:umm im at l-1

EBWOP
i read the quote i did of sg7 twice my bad its only l-2

Replacing my vote on clever, was foolish to take it off after a claim like that. Vote clever

Posted: **Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:41 pm**

Some7hingCLEVER is now at L1

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