Conquer Club

Extreme Ways wrote:

SoN!c wrote:Unvote DDS

Vote Devon

Any particular reason why Devon in particular?

Im sure you know why. I can explain it but that would be dumb.

SoN!c wrote:

Extreme Ways wrote:

SoN!c wrote:Unvote DDS

Vote Devon

Any particular reason why Devon in particular?

Im sure you know why. I can explain it but that would be dumb.

It felt like blindly following me

Well after the story about throwing a stone in the pond where DDS was: it's not that hard to believe i would throw a new stone in another pond. A inexperienced pond this time..

Adding pressure to your vote. Because D1 is not that long anymore and this would be the last call / last shot at anybody getting real friction.

Pretty predictable i would do that.

But then, after the predictable outcome you go throwing shades on that comradery action.And while doing that you are defusing debunking your own vote action on Devon? Pretty sure Devon won't feel the heat now.

Was it a genius level last D1 moment voting for your scum buddy in order to have seemingly no ties attached for the rest of the game EW? Making sure you and him are seemingly opposite alligned? It's pretty late D1 so this would be you. Knowing you can defuse any action this late into D1.. Hmmmm?

Because: why would you throw shades on your matey following you otherwise?

Short version: you are now defusing your own vote initiation on Devon..

Let me defuse one part of the Devon thing a bit more.

Some years back I too initially signed up for a mafia game here, thinking it was Chicago mafia!

Loose Canon wrote:Let me defuse one part of the Devon thing a bit more.

Some years back I too initially signed up for a mafia game here, thinking it was Chicago mafia!

What's next? Saying its another vote "in spirit"?

What's next?

I am suspicious of extreme, but my suspicions are indistinguishable from my suspicions when I disastrously vig killed him last game I played as town.

I'm more suspicious of Hjelp right now.

unvote halrob vote hjelp

Loose Canon wrote:What's next?

I am suspicious of extreme, but my suspicions are indistinguishable from my suspicions when I disastrously vig killed him last game I played as town.

I'm more suspicious of Hjelp right now.

unvote halrob vote hjelp

I think it's just bad blood between you and him but town vs town.

He thinks your scum because of the LOOSE play style and you don't like the fact he does not answers any of your questions. Just drop it. If other town members see Hjelp or you as scum and present a case you can get back on that horse both of you. But if its just you and him and nobody else sees it that way then consider the bad blood motive. Human nature to get your brain doing that.

Loose vs Hjelp

So close, no matter how far
Couldn't be much more from the heart
Forever trusting who we are

Trust I seek and I find in you

SoN!c wrote:Well after the story about throwing a stone in the pond where DDS was: it's not that hard to believe i would throw a new stone in another pond. A inexperienced pond this time..

Adding pressure to your vote. Because D1 is not that long anymore and this would be the last call / last shot at anybody getting real friction.

Pretty predictable i would do that.

But then, after the predictable outcome you go throwing shades on that comradery action.And while doing that you are defusing debunking your own vote action on Devon? Pretty sure Devon won't feel the heat now.

Was it a genius level last D1 moment voting for your scum buddy in order to have seemingly no ties attached for the rest of the game EW? Making sure you and him are seemingly opposite alligned? It's pretty late D1 so this would be you. Knowing you can defuse any action this late into D1.. Hmmmm?

Because: why would you throw shades on your matey following you otherwise?

Where do you see me throwing shade on your vote?

SoN!c wrote:

Loose Canon wrote:What's next?

I am suspicious of extreme, but my suspicions are indistinguishable from my suspicions when I disastrously vig killed him last game I played as town.

I'm more suspicious of Hjelp right now.

unvote halrob vote hjelp

I think it's just bad blood between you and him but town vs town.

He thinks your scum because of the LOOSE play style and you don't like the fact he does not answers any of your questions. Just drop it. If other town members see Hjelp or you as scum and present a case you can get back on that horse both of you. But if its just you and him and nobody else sees it that way then consider the bad blood motive. Human nature to get your brain doing that.

I am townreading loose...

SoN!c wrote:

Loose Canon wrote:Let me defuse one part of the Devon thing a bit more.

Some years back I too initially signed up for a mafia game here, thinking it was Chicago mafia!

What's next? Saying its another vote "in spirit"?

that was a quote by me not to put halrob on L-1

Extreme Ways wrote: ...Where do you see me throwing shade on your vote?

You were questioning me for following your vote.. Questioning me while the pressure should have been on the target. Not on me. It's that simple.

As town You have to prioritise your goals. Not shooting a scattergun from the hip and spray and pray.

Shooting a big scattergun 12 gauge style just shoots doubts into peoples head. Im sure you know

Let me explain in a visual way:

If two cops are questioning a mafia suspect does cop 1 ask cop 2 "Hey, why are you asking these questions? Why do you think he is a mafia again?"

By my maths that makes 3 cops now.

Loose Canon wrote:By my maths that makes 3 cops now.

We are Suspicious Minds



Sorry EW - we are Suspicious Minds


Here we go again

Aloha From Hawaii, Live in Honolulu, 1973

Guys does anyone see Darin ?
He is so silent.
Look like hiding some where and looking what we are talking.
I am suspecious.

Vote Darin

SoN!c wrote:

Extreme Ways wrote: ...Where do you see me throwing shade on your vote?

You were questioning me for following your vote.. Questioning me while the pressure should have been on the target. Not on me. It's that simple.

As town You have to prioritise your goals. Not shooting a scattergun from the hip and spray and pray.

Shooting a big scattergun 12 gauge style just shoots doubts into peoples head. Im sure you know

I was asking you for your reason for the vote, wondering if you had different reasons than I had.

When I was supposed to know why you were voting, I stated my assumption because I can not read your mind. I didnt say you looked bad for following me. If that's shading then there's no place on earth in the sun anymore.

My goal as town is not to find scum, but to find town. I dont have you as strong town at the moment, but I would love to reinforce my "Sonic is playing the game knowing full well that he can also afk, probs town" read into an actual substantial read based on the things you do instead of the things you don't do.

Back now. Will take some time to catch up then i'll post

chanakam2020 wrote:Guys does anyone see Darin ?
He is so silent.
Look like hiding some where and looking what we are talking.
I am suspecious.

Vote Darin

apparently your not looking hard enough. I post my thought last page

Loose Canon wrote:@hjelp

Extreme had posited that at least one of the four votes on Halrob were likely mafia.
I argued against that - so the four votes thing was a topic of conversation highlighted by argument.

Town didn't/doesn't know if Halrob is Town.
Mafia wouldn't want to vote for mafia as fifth vote.
Mafia might not mind voting for town as fifth vote ordinarily but might keep their powder dry about being the fifth vote, with the backdrop of the highlighted conversation, so as not to draw attention to themselves.
Town wants to hunt out mafia though and so doesn't care so much if they draw some heat themselves for their actions - town knows that their actions (right or wrong) came from an honest place - and therein they always have a defence against mislynch if they can demonstrate honesty.

So the question stands of those who did not place the fifth vote in the circumstances when Halrob was breadcrumbing - why not?

Yet I note that thus far you have opted to question the question.

Or are you perhaps claiming Politician?

ok, now I understand your point.
At the time I cast my vote, the argument to vote halrob was vague (in my view) and your action seemed suspicious to me. And I didn't want an innocent townie to be lynched. Your action lead me to vote for you.
Later on halrob made hints of being a police and I was thinking that I don't want to lynch a police if halrob is true about the statement.
Therefore, at that moment I had no interest to cast my vote on halrob, nor later on.
Though you now have unvoted halrob and since I said

hjelp wrote:One thing though.
IF it's as halrob says, he is a townie Police?, then anyone still casting a vote on halrob => indicates a mafia

It indicates you as a townie.
Unvote Loose Canon
Moving to the second candidate on my list
Vote Ragian
List updated

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@Charle would you mind editing your player list page1 to show that extreme has replaced Rogue please.

@hjelp good enough for me to pause the active on active but not necessarily town on town tunnelling for D1 at least.
unvote hjelp

No I'm not claiming spelunker.

I will use some of my breadcrumbs to try to draw some fish to me.
As fisherman or Angler as I prefer to be referred let's see if an elusive big fish will bite.

vote kong

@Chana you asked earlier if it would be too late to lynch a mafia Halrob D3

I'm not that good at game set ups but my answer is probably not but not definitely.

Let's consider 9 town 4 mafia.
Mislynch D1 mafia kill N1 mislynch D2 mafia kill n2 would take it to 5 Vs 4 so very precarious for town but not terminal, and probably town would have powers to offset a 9 v 4 initial set up so making 5 v 4 D3 unlikely.

Charlie's last game had 2 rival mafia factions so we could go 3 town Vs 2 Vs 2 entering D3 - again not terminal.

I'm sure there could be a scenario where it would be terminal so 9 v 4 initial and a town on town vig kill.