NoS's Matrix6 Mafia GAME OVER, SCUM WIN!

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

(and most would be neutral reads anyway)

Hotshot is far too self aware of his scum tell these days

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I'm not trying to leave myself out of conversations, I'm just not good at starting them unless I see something worthy of an actual case.

Vote HotShot

Scum vote 100% of the time right here. End/Marashu scum pair gg.

Storr has promised to hammer anyone who gets to L-1, so if you vote End he will hammer. Wouldnt worry much about a no lynch as both you are Streaker havent voted.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

EBWOP You (Streaker) and Storr

[Endgame422]

Then link me up to the comment. Sounds like something Strikerwolf says.

Not going to link you you have too many posts in this forum to dig through honestly.
It was a newbie game where i was scum(with slander maybe?) and you said something about my jumpiness being scummy(which it admittedly was)
And this is not just you specifically but i know alot of players find a willingness to agree under pressure scummy but now im standing by this,taking plenty of heat and not giving up on it even if it gets me lynched.(scum wont be able to resist an easy oppourtunity like this)
Whats the point of deadlines if noone cares to keep them?
That said rather then let this go no lynch ill UNVOTE
Vote HotShot
Like i said scum couldnt resist the easy case on me.
I know streakers going to try and use this against me later but oh well. Im just a VT so if hes scum im not really a good push. Im thinking streaker is town and simply mistaken.

[Streaker]

I actually forgot about my 'ragequit' unvote there.

Vote end

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Vote Count:

Potter (0): End
Mars (1): Mtamb
Mtamb (0): IB
End (4): HS, Wing, Potter, Streaker (L-1)
HS (3): Mars, IB, End (L-2)

Not voted (1): Storr

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to lynch. Deadline is now THURSDAY JUNE 4TH, 2015 AT 9PM EST

Altered the vote count, strikethroughs and bold show changes.

[Endgame422]

Well i imagine ill be dead before i wake up,unless storr and mtam both think HS is scum.
If thats it,keep an eye on mars this time, not really sure why but he just seems a bit suspicious to me today.

[Streaker]

I'm not trying to leave myself out of conversations, I'm just not good at starting them unless I see something worthy of an actual case.

Vote HotShot

Scum vote 100% of the time right here. End/Marashu scum pair gg.

Storr has promised to hammer anyone who gets to L-1, so if you vote End he will hammer. Wouldnt worry much about a no lynch as both you are Streaker havent voted.

It's L-1 and storr is online. Let's see.

[StorrZerg]

Did HS claim

[StorrZerg]

Going to wait to see if tamb changes his vote to hotshot.

[StorrZerg]

Still not keen on endgame.

[StorrZerg]

Actually no, I don't want his claim
unvote
vote end

[Streaker]

That's lynch. Can we talk until scene, or is that not done?

[mtamburini]

RIP, grewat discussion boys

[mtamburini]

Shouldve woke up earlier

[NoSurvivors]

That's lynch. No talking-- scene incoming.

[NoSurvivors]

The day started quickly as the islanders searched for breakfast. It didn't take long for paranoia to set in. "YOU-- YOU'RE BEING AWEFULLY QUIET!" Said one. "My stamp collection- it's-- RUINED! Because of you!!" Said another.
The abandoned passengers of the SS Survivor all wanted to make a fire to use as a smoke signal, to perhaps keep their hopes of getting rescued alive-- but one person didn't feel like collecting firewood. "It's pointless! Save your energy, we are in the middle of nowhere!"
As the rest of the castaways started accusing him of being one of the traitors, they surrounded him, grabbed him and tied him up! "STOP! IT WASNT ME! I SWEAR! I JUST-- "but it was too late. As his dead body hung from a tree not too far from the ocean, the castaways realized they made a grave mistake. A great wave crashed on shore and the dead corpse of Endgame, Vanilla Townie, washed away, never to be seen again.

You have 48 hours to submit night actions.

[mtamburini]

I will be on vacation until next friday

[Iron Butterfly]

I will be on vacation until next friday

Why the fck you tell us now? We could of had VI lynched for good or bad, which would have at least kept End alive. Now you get to lay low for a week and not say anything. You could have notified the mod this would be the case. Just one more example of your lack of respect for fellow mafia players.

[NoSurvivors]

I will be on vacation until next friday

Why the fck you tell us now? We could of had VI lynched for good or bad, which would have at least kept End alive. Now you get to lay low for a week and not say anything. You could have notified the mod this would be the case. Just one more example of your lack of respect for fellow mafia players.

I told him I'm ok with it. Prefer that to not posting voluntarily. Tomorrow (D2) will be 10 days long. He will be able to post.

[NoSurvivors]

I will be on vacation until next friday

Why the fck you tell us now? We could of had VI lynched for good or bad, which would have at least kept End alive. Now you get to lay low for a week and not say anything. You could have notified the mod this would be the case. Just one more example of your lack of respect for fellow mafia players.

I told him I'm ok with it. Prefer that to not posting voluntarily. Tomorrow (D2) will be 10 days long. He will be able to post.

That being said I should have given you all warning. My bad :/

[NoSurvivors]

Sorry for not posting this earlier:

Final Vote Count D1:

Mars (1): Mtamb
End (5): HS, Wing, Potter, streaker, storr LYNCH.
HS (3): Mars, IB, End

Scene:

As the night came, the remaining castaways tossed and turned on their sleep, for they knew that there were still those among them out for blood.

Early in the morning they awoke to a shrill scream of pain. As they all jumped up to see what was the matter, they found Hotshot, vanilla townie, dead in a pool of blood.

D2 begins!

[Marashu]

Ok, now I'm confused. I was sure HotShot was mafia. Knowing that he's town, though, here are my reads.

Storr was giving a town vibe for most of the game. Until he thought that he was hammering Vio. I get wanting to hammer Vio, but it was the reaction after that I don't like - he turns around and says he'll hammer anyone (except Potter). I feel like that's him trying to take pressure off of himself, kind of a "hey, I'm not scum because I hammered a townie, because I said I'd hammer anyone". Not wanting to hammer Potter could be protecting a scumbuddy, but I'm not sure he'd be that blatant about it. Either way, though, neutral leaning scum for him.
Streaker is mafia in almost every one of my scenarios. If Storr isn't scumbuddy, he knew that he could get a lynch off End easily enough with Storr's hammer, and if they are scumbuddies, they had their pick of L-2 players (which they could wait until close to deadline, to see if anyone else would make L-1).
Wing I'm still kinda leaning town, but I'm starting to wonder if I'm wrong about that.

For me mafia is within End, IB, and Hotshot. Not because of the individual cases against them, as I have built cases against everyone I think, but because of their reaction to the cases. End continued to dig a hole for himself rather than taking an actual look at why people were objecting. IB got really annoyed with me suggesting that his entire argument against Potter was highly hypocritical, which I still believe to be true. And Hotshot for not bothering to perk up and play town at all.

Doesn't it make more sense for scum to look at why people are objecting and go along with it, rather than continue to "dig a hole" defending their point? Right at this moment, I'm neutral leaning town for you.
Potter plays scummy for the first half of D1, makes one town post, and people start defending him. The night kill could also be to just confirm how wrong those of us who voted HS were and could make a case for us, but that seems like a bit of a stretch. Streaker/Potter pair feels right to me. I think it's likely that you're mafia.
Mtam is town. He could have easily gone with one of the existing cases and built on that if he were scum, but instead he brings new points to the table.
IB it also town, I think. Solid, to-the-point, pro-town posts in my opinion. Though jumping right on my HS vote seems a bit odd, the only pair that would work with is IB/Storr, to try getting enough people to L-1 so Storr can hammer. I think that's pretty unlikely.

Might need to do another read at some point (am still confused about the HS kill - why kill the person who was at L-2?). If I had to vote right this second, I'd vote Streaker, but we have a while to discuss. I want to know what everyone else thinks.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

So two VT's dead and looking through their posts, not much to go with. Hotshot is an entirely useless death as he had no real feelings about anyone!

Endgame - Had a meta feeling about Mars and thought Potter is Scum.

If all you wanted was a replacement why not say that?
You got what you wanted cuz the lynch target is me now. That much i can believe.
Potter still seems a fair shot for scum but your attack of me and defense of potter at the same time makes you look scummy in my eyes as well.
Also mars has seemed strange this game but i dont really have anything to back that up besides a weak meta from the last time we were both town.

Hotshots reads - Only person he said was scummy was End - So his death doesnt seem to be helpful in anyway.

Spoiler

I haven't seen anything else worthy of a vote, so I'm leaving it on end for now. Everyone seems to be paying similar to form mostly. I wouldn't lynch potter today unless he did something pretty scummy, don't want to scare away the newbies too fast lol.

And mtam, I'm not trying to leave myself out of conversations, I'm just not good at starting them unless I see something worthy of an actual case.

Out of the 10 pages done, quote me the towniest thing someone has said and the scummiest thing someone has said.

I'd say the townliest post was streaker asking for the extension, and the scummiest was endgame saying we didn't need one. Always a possibility that streaker just asked for it since he was under some pressure at the time and didn't want people to lynch him just because the day was running out... so no guarantees he's town either.

I unfortunately don't have the time to re-read everyone's posts this week, so I can't give full reads on everyone yet (and most would be neutral reads anyway)... I will next week

So I need to go back through Mars post to see if I can find the meta that End was on about.

Other than Mars and Potter being suspect in End's eyes, I'd also point out that Storr was happy to lynch anyone, which is a bit suspect now both lynch choices have flipped town. That said, there clearly was no reason for Mafia to push either lynch, and it was Streaker who was getting jumpy about a no lynch possibility.

Fp'd by Mars

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

@ Mars - Agree with you about Streaker, and agree that too many people have defended Potter for him not to be Mafia. It would be interesting to see exactly how he avoided lynch D1 given he made it all the way to L-2 without claiming.

You'd have to think Storr wouldn't be more subtle with his play if he was mafia. That said it is Storr.