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We certainly won't send in troops to help Ukraine, but we can obviously hurt them economically with stronger sanctions. EU can only go so far with sanctions, since they depend on gas imports from Russia. The Europeans are now scrambling to get supplies from other countries. The US can't help with natural gas, since we have no liquidifications plants to export our excess gas supplies.Qwert wrote:kuthoer, from your post i conclude that your opinion about US Government that they are incompetent ,weak and dont have balls to confront Russia .
I bet that you are for strong reaction, but you are disappointed with Obama and hes diplomatic moves.
Gives new meaning to the phrase "Get Out the Vote" ...Armament: Two MK 41 Vertical Launch Systems for STANDARD missiles, TOMAHAWK cruise missiles, Antisubmarine Rockets; MK 46 torpedoes, HARPOON missiles, two MK 45 5-inch/54 caliber guns, two Vulcan PHALANX Close-In Weapons Systems, chaff and NULKA decoy systems, and a variety of minor caliber weapons.
http://www.vella-gulf.navy.mil/
Look in the mirror and you will see one moron, with the drugs you use there might be more then one thokuthoer wrote:Can't debate morons, so I'll move on.
By saying "we" you mean US? For now US can only brake(or support braking) of human rights in Ukraine, you can dream of something else beyond that.kuthoer wrote:We certainly won't send in troops to help Ukraine, but we can obviously hurt them economically with stronger sanctions. EU can only go so far with sanctions, since they depend on gas imports from Russia. The Europeans are now scrambling to get supplies from other countries. The US can't help with natural gas, since we have no liquidifications plants to export our excess gas supplies.
GoranZ wrote:Look in the mirror and you will see one moron, with the drugs you use there might be more then one thokuthoer wrote:Can't debate morons, so I'll move on.
By saying "we" you mean US? For now US can only brake(or support braking) of human rights in Ukraine, you can dream of something else beyond that.kuthoer wrote:We certainly won't send in troops to help Ukraine, but we can obviously hurt them economically with stronger sanctions. EU can only go so far with sanctions, since they depend on gas imports from Russia. The Europeans are now scrambling to get supplies from other countries. The US can't help with natural gas, since we have no liquidifications plants to export our excess gas supplies.
Btw with the recent deals between Russia and China you should start worrying about the end of US imperialism.
Big deal. China is the UN-recognized legal representative of 1.5 billion people. All the other nations in the Spratley Islands dispute combined have a population of less than 400 million. Some of us believe in democracy; majority-rule. It sounds like you believe in richocracy; rule by the big energy and gas companies that run the Philippines and Japan and dump millions on U.S. congressional candidates to buy some red, white and blue firepower to back them up.kuthoer wrote: China is infuriating all the neighboring countries by claiming huge swaths of South China Sea, not recognized by any country in the UN.
Ha-you are just a caricature of silliness aren't you.saxitoxin wrote:Big deal. China is the UN-recognized legal representative of 1.5 billion people. All the other nations in the Spratley Islands dispute combined have a population of less than 400 million. Some of us believe in democracy; majority-rule. It sounds like you believe in richocracy; rule by the big energy and gas companies that run the Philippines and Japan and dump millions on U.S. congressional candidates to buy some red, white and blue firepower to back them up.kuthoer wrote: China is infuriating all the neighboring countries by claiming huge swaths of South China Sea, not recognized by any country in the UN.
Truth hurts, huh?kuthoer wrote:Ha-you are just a caricature of silliness aren't you.saxitoxin wrote:Big deal. China is the UN-recognized legal representative of 1.5 billion people. All the other nations in the Spratley Islands dispute combined have a population of less than 400 million. Some of us believe in democracy; majority-rule. It sounds like you believe in richocracy; rule by the big energy and gas companies that run the Philippines and Japan and dump millions on U.S. congressional candidates to buy some red, white and blue firepower to back them up.kuthoer wrote: China is infuriating all the neighboring countries by claiming huge swaths of South China Sea, not recognized by any country in the UN.
National Front - France - 1st Place (out of 10 parties)Syriza leader Alexis Tsipras lambasted western policy on Ukraine and expressed support for separatist referendums in the Ukraine during an official visit to Moscow, upon the invitation of the Russian government.
http://www.enetenglish.gr/?i=news.en.article&id=1920
Freedom Party - Netherlands - 2nd Place (out of 13 parties)Marine Le Pen, leader of France's National Front, blamed the European Union for declaring a new Cold War on Russia that would hurt all concerned. Le Pen, along with other Eurosceptic leaders of the far left and nationalist right, believe the original fault lies with Brussels for offering closer ties with Ukraine.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/ ... 9I20140412
Independence Party - UK - 1st Place (out of 14 parties)Dutch politician Geert Wilders blamed the crisis in Ukraine on the European Union on Thursday, accusing it of inciting violence by dangling the "carrot" of EU integration.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/04/1 ... CT20140417
PLUS, big wins in Austria, Italy, Hungary, Bulgaria ... the list goes on. All that work, Uncle Sam, and in one day you go from big daddy to the old perv alone in a cabin with no one except little Canada bouncing around on your lap. Looks like there's a new sheriff in town as of now.Nigel Farage has accused the European Union of having "bloody hands" over its involvement in the current crisis in Ukraine by showing imperialist ambitions. The Ukip leader said that the British government and EU had "geed up" those behind the uprising that ousted Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/03 ... 37811.html
AndyDufresne wrote:I like the amount of effort both sides in this topic all put into this thread. It is pretty amusing. Thumbs up.
--Andy
They should add a "NATO Simulator" option to Conquer Club: at any time you can hit the NATO button and, if your opponent doesn't move for the next 24 rounds, you suddenly get 30 bonus troops.Elmar Brok, a member of Germany's center-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU) and a longstanding expert on European Union foreign policy, puts it more directly: "At present, the alliance could not protect the Baltic countries with conventional military means."
That is the most important sentence, and officials at the German defense and foreign ministries in Berlin agree. It would take about half a year before the members of the alliance would be capable of mustering a suitable response, if at all. "We wouldn't even show up in time for the Russians' victory celebration," says a government expert, who points out that the existing, vague deployment plans are "all outdated."
http://www.spiegel.de/international/ger ... 70248.html
Hmm he is not that insane to start a nuclear war, in which case Russia will not be the only one that will suffer, US and EU will also burnkuthoer wrote:Slow down kiddo, Russia invading the Baltics? May be possible if Putin got rabies from that bitch he had on his lap in your earlier picture.
Even Putin is not that insane to invade Estonia, as the consequences would be to terrible for Russia.
Oh God! Nuclear War talk? Such rhetoric, bravo!GoranZ wrote:Hmm he is not that insane to start a nuclear war, in which case Russia will not be the only one that will suffer, US and EU will also burnkuthoer wrote:Slow down kiddo, Russia invading the Baltics? May be possible if Putin got rabies from that bitch he had on his lap in your earlier picture.
Even Putin is not that insane to invade Estonia, as the consequences would be to terrible for Russia.
You, guys, have all gone crazy here. Putin is not interested in Estonia, which is, indeed, the weakest link in NATO. Russian threat to Estonia sounds to me like a neocon argument to justify NATO build-up in the region "to teach ruskies a lesson" for standing up against them in Syria and Ukraine...kuthoer wrote:Oh God! Nuclear War talk? Such rhetoric, bravo!GoranZ wrote:Hmm he is not that insane to start a nuclear war, in which case Russia will not be the only one that will suffer, US and EU will also burnkuthoer wrote:Slow down kiddo, Russia invading the Baltics? May be possible if Putin got rabies from that bitch he had on his lap in your earlier picture.
Even Putin is not that insane to invade Estonia, as the consequences would be to terrible for Russia.
Exactly.Pope Joan wrote: What is more worrying is that Kiev is now using airstrikes against the protesters. I appreciate that the protesters are heavily armed but I dont hear much of a condemnation from John Kerry. I gather it is OK to do airstrikes in Donetsk but not so OK in Alleppo
Can't put down a revolution with flowers....patches70 wrote:Exactly.Pope Joan wrote: What is more worrying is that Kiev is now using airstrikes against the protesters. I appreciate that the protesters are heavily armed but I dont hear much of a condemnation from John Kerry. I gather it is OK to do airstrikes in Donetsk but not so OK in Alleppo
We all know that Putin doesn't have big interests for Estonia but NATO doesn'tPope Joan wrote:You, guys, have all gone crazy here. Putin is not interested in Estonia, which is, indeed, the weakest link in NATO. Russian threat to Estonia sounds to me like a neocon argument to justify NATO build-up in the region "to teach ruskies a lesson" for standing up against them in Syria and Ukraine...kuthoer wrote:Oh God! Nuclear War talk? Such rhetoric, bravo!GoranZ wrote:Hmm he is not that insane to start a nuclear war, in which case Russia will not be the only one that will suffer, US and EU will also burnkuthoer wrote:Slow down kiddo, Russia invading the Baltics? May be possible if Putin got rabies from that bitch he had on his lap in your earlier picture.
Even Putin is not that insane to invade Estonia, as the consequences would be to terrible for Russia.
, and fear is the largest enemy 
Western's hypocritical double standardsPope Joan wrote:What is more worrying is that Kiev is now using airstrikes against the protesters. I appreciate that the protesters are heavily armed but I dont hear much of a condemnation from John Kerry. I gather it is OK to do airstrikes in Donetsk but not so OK in Alleppo
Western thirst for blood, mixed with brainlessness... if you dont know how take a look at Crimea. ZERO casualtieskuthoer wrote:Can't put down a revolution with flowers....patches70 wrote:Exactly.Pope Joan wrote: What is more worrying is that Kiev is now using airstrikes against the protesters. I appreciate that the protesters are heavily armed but I dont hear much of a condemnation from John Kerry. I gather it is OK to do airstrikes in Donetsk but not so OK in Alleppo
Russia brazenly took over the Crimea, despite the agreement of respecting the recognized borders of Ukraine when they gave up all their stockpiles of nuclear weapons, by the way Ukraine had the third largest stockpile of nuclear weapons in the world at the time of the collapse of the Soviet Union. Looks like Ukraine should have kept those weapons to thwart any future attempts of Russia to invade.GoranZ wrote:We all know that Putin doesn't have big interests for Estonia but NATO doesn'tPope Joan wrote:You, guys, have all gone crazy here. Putin is not interested in Estonia, which is, indeed, the weakest link in NATO. Russian threat to Estonia sounds to me like a neocon argument to justify NATO build-up in the region "to teach ruskies a lesson" for standing up against them in Syria and Ukraine...kuthoer wrote:Oh God! Nuclear War talk? Such rhetoric, bravo!GoranZ wrote:Hmm he is not that insane to start a nuclear war, in which case Russia will not be the only one that will suffer, US and EU will also burnkuthoer wrote:Slow down kiddo, Russia invading the Baltics? May be possible if Putin got rabies from that bitch he had on his lap in your earlier picture.
Even Putin is not that insane to invade Estonia, as the consequences would be to terrible for Russia.
Western's hypocritical double standardsPope Joan wrote:What is more worrying is that Kiev is now using airstrikes against the protesters. I appreciate that the protesters are heavily armed but I dont hear much of a condemnation from John Kerry. I gather it is OK to do airstrikes in Donetsk but not so OK in Alleppo
Western thirst for blood, mixed with brainlessness... if you dont know how take a look at Crimea. ZERO casualtieskuthoer wrote:Can't put down a revolution with flowers....patches70 wrote:Exactly.Pope Joan wrote: What is more worrying is that Kiev is now using airstrikes against the protesters. I appreciate that the protesters are heavily armed but I dont hear much of a condemnation from John Kerry. I gather it is OK to do airstrikes in Donetsk but not so OK in Alleppo
So, marching 10,000 heavily armed troops down the streets of Crimea and shortly after the occupation began, holding an "election of secession" says, what, exactly?saxitoxin wrote:As expected, the multi-billionare Petro Poroshenko won "elections" and is nlow the new strongman of Ukraine. The first time in history, possibly, that people revolted because they were mad the wealthiest man in the country wasn't running things ... Georges Danton is rolling over in his grave right now.
Last week the U.S. sent the USS Vella Gulf into the Black Sea to "support the elections." From the ship's website:
Gives new meaning to the phrase "Get Out the Vote" ...Armament: Two MK 41 Vertical Launch Systems for STANDARD missiles, TOMAHAWK cruise missiles, Antisubmarine Rockets; MK 46 torpedoes, HARPOON missiles, two MK 45 5-inch/54 caliber guns, two Vulcan PHALANX Close-In Weapons Systems, chaff and NULKA decoy systems, and a variety of minor caliber weapons.
http://www.vella-gulf.navy.mil/