Anarkistsdream wrote:Lootifer wrote:Anarkistsdream wrote:Because I am a boring townie role. I am no power role, so, it makes more sense for me to die for town and at least give the future townies of tomorrow some leads to use.
But earlier you said:
Anarkistsdream wrote:Somehow, I am doubting that there is a Vanilla Townie in this game... James wanted this game to be fun, and Vanilla Townies never get that level of "fun" that other roles get. As for painting a target on people's heads, it not only affects the person who speaks, but also the person/people that it is about.
Hrmmm...?
I didn't say I was VT... I said I was a boring townie role. Power Roles to me are killing, protective, and investigative roles... Having an ability does not classify you as a PR. Look at masons... They are not vanilla town, but they sure as hell aren't a PR as is normally considered.
My suspicion lies squarely with Anarkists. As jonty said, Lootifer's claim being too elaborate to fake is probably right, but Anarkists is still pushing hard on the Lootifer idea*. The above is what initially triggered me -- Loot had a good catch here. Yes, I understand the point that a townie with a minor role is different from a VT -- but copping out by saying you're a "boring townie" is a huge scum tell to me. It places just enough importance on you not to lynch, since that role might be useful in some circumstance, but not enough to warrant serious attention, which is what mafia would want. Also, if we trust that Lootifer's claim is correct, then Anarkist's claim makes no sense -- why would there be a 'boring townie' role when there is in fact at least one VT, and possibly more as Lootifer has hinted to?
Also, his arguments against Lootifer have generally been weak -- he quoted several of Lootifer's posts and basically said that Lootifer is scummy for defending himself against Anarkist's own accusations.
*When confronted with the claim, he said
Anarkistsdream wrote:Until I feel convinced otherwise... This is where my vote will stay... Lootifer and Spiesr backing each other up doesnt sit well with me.
But Lootifer is most certainly
not backing up spiesr -- he's just saying that spiesr is perhaps not the best choice to lynch on D2. This is similarly a huge stretch.
On the other hand, greg and virus have said some things that seem a bit off to me too. Can we get a VC before I go further?
