TLO 2012 IV [Winners: Harem Kings]

[Chariot of Fire]

I'd love for you run this tourney again as it's one of the best CC has ever hosted. Whilst the forfeited games are a pain in the ass and give a skewed reflection of the scoreboard, the greater step you can take is to simply ban those players from future editions of the TLO so they don't mess it up for everybody ever again.

[Lindax]

I'd love for you run this tourney again as it's one of the best CC has ever hosted. Whilst the forfeited games are a pain in the ass and give a skewed reflection of the scoreboard, the greater step you can take is to simply ban those players from future editions of the TLO so they don't mess it up for everybody ever again.

Thank you Si.

Lx

[Lindax]

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The game rosters for Round 3 have been updated. There are still 14 games ongoing.

For the Schedule, Maps & Settings and other Round Info: Click here

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[josko.ri]

I wil sit for Moonchild from toda until sunday, he is on friend's wedding

[benga]

silver for me until Tuesday

[agentcom]

Lindax, I didn't see this addressed... are games that are being won by default (opponent failed to join) going to be included in MVP calculations?

Good question. I never thought we'd get so many forfeited games....

So far I have used the Tournament Stats script to get the winning percentage, so then they wouldn't show up. So, I guess they don't count as wins. However, if needed I will count them towards the amount games played for the players that did join them, if that would come into play.

Lx

If anything, I'd do it the other way around ... If you don't join a game (cause a forfeit) that should definitely count AGAINST you for MVP status.

If you gain from a forfeit, it shouldn't count toward MVP status. Some may say that's unfair to the player who signed up for the game. But remember, MVP is about gaining points for your team. So you can just redistribute the games in future rounds. If someone is really going for MVP, they can take on a couple more games to make up for any of their other games not played. This seems most fair to the teammates. The one player shouldn't benefit simply because they got lucky and received a forfeit.

As an alternative, I would either count BOTH forfeited losses AND wins toward MVP. OR I would run both scenarios. If the MVP calculation comes out different (lots of times it won't) when counting forfeited WINS or not counting them, then the team can vote for which one is the MVP, with any ties being broken by the team leader. (Or if the team leader is in the runnning, maybe the player that played the most total games, or the next player in total games if the most prolific player is also in the running).

[Lindax]

Lindax, I didn't see this addressed... are games that are being won by default (opponent failed to join) going to be included in MVP calculations?

Good question. I never thought we'd get so many forfeited games....

So far I have used the Tournament Stats script to get the winning percentage, so then they wouldn't show up. So, I guess they don't count as wins. However, if needed I will count them towards the amount games played for the players that did join them, if that would come into play.

Lx

If anything, I'd do it the other way around ... If you don't join a game (cause a forfeit) that should definitely count AGAINST you for MVP status.

If you gain from a forfeit, it shouldn't count toward MVP status. Some may say that's unfair to the player who signed up for the game. But remember, MVP is about gaining points for your team. So you can just redistribute the games in future rounds. If someone is really going for MVP, they can take on a couple more games to make up for any of their other games not played. This seems most fair to the teammates. The one player shouldn't benefit simply because they got lucky and received a forfeit.

As an alternative, I would either count BOTH forfeited losses AND wins toward MVP. OR I would run both scenarios. If the MVP calculation comes out different (lots of times it won't) when counting forfeited WINS or not counting them, then the team can vote for which one is the MVP, with any ties being broken by the team leader. (Or if the team leader is in the runnning, maybe the player that played the most total games, or the next player in total games if the most prolific player is also in the running).

Thank you for your comments and suggestions.

I think, however, that you're mixing up the MVP and MVTM (Most Valuable Team Member).

Lx

[Lindax]

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The game rosters for Round 5 have been posted, no changes will be allowed (unforeseen situations excluded, pending my discretion).

Round 5 will start June 17, coming Sunday.

For the Schedule, Maps & Settings and other Round Info: Click here

Lx

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[Graceless_]

The Reds defeat TNC 11-9 in round 3.

[uckuki]

Round 3
DYNASTY vs Tutti Frutti 9:11

S1 - Tutti Frutti (Win by default)
S1 Game 11109700 AOR2 - Tutti Frutti

D1 Game 11109714 Draknor - DYNASTY
D2 Game 11109734 8 Thoughts - Tutti Frutti
D3 - Tutti Frutti (Win by default)
D4 - Tutti Frutti (Win by default)

T1 Game 11109792 Midkemdil - DYNASTY
T2 - Tutti Frutti (Win by default)

Q1 Game 11109823 Tamriel - DYNASTY

tx

[Lindax]

Thanks guys, I'll post an update soon.

Lx

[drunkmonkey]

Round 3: TOFUkingood v Beef Leftovers

S1 - Game 11109679 Beef
S2 - Game 11109696 TOFU
D1 - Game 11109707 Beef
D2 - Game 11109726 TOFU
D3 - Game 11109742 TOFU
D4 - Game 11109773 TOFU
T1 - Game 11109787 Beef
T2 - Game 11109800 Beef
Q1 - Game 11109816 Beef

Final score: Beef Leftovers 13, TOFUkingood 7

[Chariot of Fire]

Rob,

Just wish to post notice that [player]Chuuuuck[/player] has had to attend to urgent family business and will be away from the site for several days. He will be covered by fellow members of the team. Thanks

[Lindax]

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The game rosters, results and standings for Rounds 2 & 3 have been updated. Keep in mind that there are still 2 games ongoing in Round 2!

For the Schedule, Maps & Settings and other Round Info: Click here

For the Results & Standings: Click here

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[Chariot of Fire]

Good to see the two TOFU teams topping the standings

Thanks for the update Rob

[Lindax]

Rob,

Just wish to post notice that [player]Chuuuuck[/player] has had to attend to urgent family business and will be away from the site for several days. He will be covered by fellow members of the team. Thanks

Good to see the two TOFU teams topping the standings

Thanks for the update Rob

Thank you and thank you.

Lx

[L M S]

Good to see the two TOFU teams topping the standings

Thanks for the update Rob

Almost two TOFU teams...save that one random kid.....

[Lindax]

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Hurricane or no hurricane, the Round 5 games have been sent, please join them a.s.a.p.

Deadline for joining the games: Tuesday, June 19, 19:00 hrs. GMT

If there is a problem with joining a game, please let your Team Captain know (if possible, if not, contact me).


For the Schedule, Maps & Settings and other Round Info: Click here


Fog of War reminder:

[spoiler=fog of war]For games with fog of war the 12 hour courtesy rule will be in effect. I know from personal experience that it's not always practical (or possible) to wait 12 hours, so I'll "give or take" a few hours. Just don't make a habit of it! Please post in the chat if you cannot wait any longer and when you have taken the snapshot.[/spoiler]
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Have fun all!

Lx

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[Lindax]

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Hurricane or no hurricane, the Round 5 games have been sent, please join them a.s.a.p.

Deadline for joining the games: Tuesday, June 19, 19:00 hrs. GMT

If there is a problem with joining a game, please let your Team Captain know (if possible, if not, contact me).


For the Schedule, Maps & Settings and other Round Info: Click here


Fog of War reminder:

[spoiler=fog of war]For games with fog of war the 12 hour courtesy rule will be in effect. I know from personal experience that it's not always practical (or possible) to wait 12 hours, so I'll "give or take" a few hours. Just don't make a habit of it! Please post in the chat if you cannot wait any longer and when you have taken the snapshot.[/spoiler]
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Have fun all!

Lx

There are 5 games still waiting for players. The Team Captains of The Reds (Pirlo) and DYNASTY (spino) asked for invites and a bit more time, which I will give them.

Lx

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[HardAttack]

edit...

[Chariot of Fire]

Kaan - maybe you should read the post above yours. Dynasty requested an extension.

[HardAttack]

edit...

[Lindax]

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Hurricane or no hurricane, the Round 5 games have been sent, please join them a.s.a.p.

Deadline for joining the games: Tuesday, June 19, 19:00 hrs. GMT

If there is a problem with joining a game, please let your Team Captain know (if possible, if not, contact me).


For the Schedule, Maps & Settings and other Round Info: Click here


Fog of War reminder:

[spoiler=fog of war]For games with fog of war the 12 hour courtesy rule will be in effect. I know from personal experience that it's not always practical (or possible) to wait 12 hours, so I'll "give or take" a few hours. Just don't make a habit of it! Please post in the chat if you cannot wait any longer and when you have taken the snapshot.[/spoiler]
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Have fun all!

Lx

There are 5 games still waiting for players. The Team Captains of The Reds (Pirlo) and DYNASTY (spino) asked for invites and a bit more time, which I will give them.

Lx

Team lazy and drunk did not ask for an extension, so killboy108 provided their opponents 2 points by not joining his doubles game.

The other two teams I will give the rest of the day to join the games.

Lx

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[Lindax]

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The line-up for Extra Games 3 to 6 have been posted. No changes will be allowed from now on, except in "unforeseen situations", when I will try to find a solution.

Extra Games 3 to 6 will start June 24, coming Sunday.

For the Schedule, Maps & Settings and other Round Info: Click here

Lx

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[HardAttack]

edit....