Conquer Club

Well shit. I had you pulling that one out in the first three posts, as usual.

Where's the "give up on society and move into the mountains option"?

HapSmo19 wrote:Well shit. I had you pulling that one out in the first three posts, as usual.

With you it is easy to be consistent.

mpjh wrote:With you it is easy to be consistent.

When you are you and you're the consistency of feces.

Giving some serious thought to 20 years in the military and retiring at 42

Whatabout working like 16 hour days with a one day weekend and burning yourself out and retiring by 40 or 35?

captainwalrus wrote:Whatabout working like 16 hour days with a one day weekend and burning yourself out and retiring by 40 or 35?

I agree. It should be an option if you wanted to.

HapSmo19 wrote:

mpjh wrote:With you it is easy to be consistent.

When you are you and you're the consistency of feces.

Gee, Hap, you really stretched you mind for that one. Typical.

Ugh. Can we just end this now?

If you like, go ahead and throw the last insult.

OK, Hap, you are wasted space -- as my grandfather would say a real "knothead."

done deal

OnlyAmbrose wrote:Giving some serious thought to 20 years in the military and retiring at 42

It's great (I am such at 44 right now). Except you've got to survive the 20 years (finding a nice career field like I did definitely helps!). And while the retirement check is great, it's not that much unless you're an officer. So do it the officer route.

Woodruff wrote:I'm already retired from the military, so that check's a freebie (for what it's worth...not enough to actually retire, obviously).

However, of all the shifts I've ever worked, my preference by far was this:

12 hours per shift
3 on, 2 off, 2 on, 3 off (7 days per week)

Man, that was a great shift.

Air Force? Weather? Barksdale!?


Actually, I'm sure that's a rather common schedule, but seeing as you knew so much about Keesler and that's the shift they work at Barksdale, I figure you probably have been there done that.

Hologram wrote:

Woodruff wrote:I'm already retired from the military, so that check's a freebie (for what it's worth...not enough to actually retire, obviously).

However, of all the shifts I've ever worked, my preference by far was this:

12 hours per shift
3 on, 2 off, 2 on, 3 off (7 days per week)

Man, that was a great shift.

Air Force? Weather? Barksdale!?

Naw...computer operations workcenter at Ramstein, Germany. Been to Barksdale, but only on short trips to train some folks there...never to stay long.

I'm telling you though...you want happy people? Put them on that shift.

Woodruff wrote:

Hologram wrote:

Woodruff wrote:I'm already retired from the military, so that check's a freebie (for what it's worth...not enough to actually retire, obviously).

However, of all the shifts I've ever worked, my preference by far was this:

12 hours per shift
3 on, 2 off, 2 on, 3 off (7 days per week)

Man, that was a great shift.

Air Force? Weather? Barksdale!?

Naw...computer operations workcenter at Ramstein, Germany. Been to Barksdale, but only on short trips to train some folks there...never to stay long.

I'm telling you though...you want happy people? Put them on that shift.

If you don' t have kids, yes.

PLAYER57832 wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

Hologram wrote:

Woodruff wrote:I'm already retired from the military, so that check's a freebie (for what it's worth...not enough to actually retire, obviously).

However, of all the shifts I've ever worked, my preference by far was this:

12 hours per shift
3 on, 2 off, 2 on, 3 off (7 days per week)

Man, that was a great shift.

Air Force? Weather? Barksdale!?

Naw...computer operations workcenter at Ramstein, Germany. Been to Barksdale, but only on short trips to train some folks there...never to stay long.

I'm telling you though...you want happy people? Put them on that shift.

If you don' t have kids, yes.

Why? You get lots of days off, and there's more than 12 hours in a day.

PLAYER57832 wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

Hologram wrote:

Woodruff wrote:I'm already retired from the military, so that check's a freebie (for what it's worth...not enough to actually retire, obviously).

However, of all the shifts I've ever worked, my preference by far was this:

12 hours per shift
3 on, 2 off, 2 on, 3 off (7 days per week)

Man, that was a great shift.

Air Force? Weather? Barksdale!?

Naw...computer operations workcenter at Ramstein, Germany. Been to Barksdale, but only on short trips to train some folks there...never to stay long.

I'm telling you though...you want happy people? Put them on that shift.

If you don' t have kids, yes.

I had kids (at the time, one in high school and one in junior high). They LOVED the fact that I was free to go to school events roughly half of the week. Many types of shift-work don't allow that sort of flexibility. Not once did I have any of my troops complain that the shift didn't allow them time to do things with their kids...in fact, it was the opposite.

Here's a more realistic choice:

Work 5 12 hour days, plus one 6 to 8 hour day per weekend. Get taxed at the highest effective rate federally and on a state basis because you are "upper middle class." Pay in to social security. Work until 60, realize you aren't getting social security and that your retirement benefits are taxed at an extremely high rate to pay for federal spending and to pay back federal loans. Work until 70. Retire. Die at 71 from a heart attack.

This seems to be my future. Needless to say, I'm very excited.

Ahhh, a realist. This crowd will have a hard time with that.

mpjh wrote:Ahhh, a realist. This crowd will have a hard time with that.

It takes a few years of actually working before one becomes a realist. I would venture to say that most high schoolers would expect their work years to involve working 9 to 5, having three weeks vacation, having weekends off, and making $300K a year while paying next to nothing in taxes. In fact, many college-age children (I use "children" because that's how the majority of them act) would probably assume the same thing. I have four words for them - Good luck with that.

If they are not lying, some of the posters here have pensions from the military. That means they are either wounded vets, or 20 lifers. So, the high school and college fog doesn't explain them.

mpjh wrote:If they are not lying, some of the posters here have pensions from the military. That means they are either wounded vets, or 20 lifers. So, the high school and college fog doesn't explain them.

True... I was making a preemptive comment born from bitterness.

Hologram wrote:

PLAYER57832 wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

Hologram wrote:

Woodruff wrote:I'm already retired from the military, so that check's a freebie (for what it's worth...not enough to actually retire, obviously).

However, of all the shifts I've ever worked, my preference by far was this:

12 hours per shift
3 on, 2 off, 2 on, 3 off (7 days per week)

Man, that was a great shift.

Air Force? Weather? Barksdale!?

Naw...computer operations workcenter at Ramstein, Germany. Been to Barksdale, but only on short trips to train some folks there...never to stay long.

I'm telling you though...you want happy people? Put them on that shift.

If you don' t have kids, yes.

Why? You get lots of days off, and there's more than 12 hours in a day.

But meetings, kids games, etc are not particularly flexible. Also, it means you basically don't see your kids for several days week and with school, etc. you won't necessarily see them more during the week.
In most states, it is very, very hard to find anyone to watch your kids more than 10 hours, so unless you have a relative... you are out of luck. It just depends on the kids and their ages.