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Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 5:48 pm
by Hologram
vote k because he's being annoying, his name's too long, and he seems far too scatter brained to be of any use to us.

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 6:04 pm
by pmchugh
Hologram wrote:vote k because he's being annoying, his name's too long, and he seems far too scatter brained to be of any use to us.


wow that's harsh, unvote vote holo for being mean!

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 6:12 pm
by karelpietertje
sam_levi_11 wrote:
karelpietertje wrote:
AceArtemis wrote:Vote: karelpietertje because he's a general.


Hear hear!
unvote, vote karelpietertje
This shows you intend to bandwagon all the time, so vote karelpietertje. Plus you have a fucking annoying name.

I don't know what bandwagoning is at all :lol: see I'm dutch and english is not my mother language :)
that explains my name too ;)
i think its an advantage in these games :P people will be like: "Im gonna vote that katpeaje guy. f*ck how do i spell his name!? argh f*ck it, ill vote that other guy!"
well apparently it helped little against team sam_levi_11+Hologram :roll:

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 6:14 pm
by Hologram
bandwagoning is when you vote for people because other people can vote for people. It can be a scum tell because it tells everyone else that you don't care who dies, so long as it's town.

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 6:15 pm
by Hologram
Hologram wrote:bandwagoning is when you vote for a person because other people are for the same person. It can be a scum tell because it tells everyone else that you don't care who dies, so long as it's town.

EBWOP

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 6:20 pm
by karelpietertje
Hologram wrote:bandwagoning is when you vote for people because other people can vote for people. It can be a scum tell because it tells everyone else that you don't care who dies, so long as it's town.

thanks for the explanation :!:

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 6:50 pm
by pmchugh
But don't forget that not all bandwaggoning is wrong, its very unlikely that everyone will find there own unique reason to vote for someone so sometimes you just have to go along with opther people in order to achieve a lynch.

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 7:23 pm
by nagerous
pmchugh wrote:But don't forget that not all bandwaggoning is wrong, its very unlikely that everyone will find there own unique reason to vote for someone so sometimes you just have to go along with opther people in order to achieve a lynch.


Bandwagonning is wrong...

EXCEPT WHEN IT IS PMC'S MUM WE ARE BANDWAGGONING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WHOS WITH ME???!

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 7:43 pm
by Mr. Squirrel
william18 wrote:
pmchugh wrote:
william18 wrote:
pmchugh wrote:vote nag cause he's clearly saruman.

Likely roles, not that it really matters:
The 9 fellowship members.
Sauron
Saruman
Nazgul?
Another scum possibly. Lurtz or Orc or similar.

+2/3 others. Probably a 3rd party player, Gollum?
And probably 1 or 2 from Theoden/Eomer/Arwen/Farimir/Eowen/Elf dude that dies at Helms deep/Group of people e.g. Rohirrim. - Most fake claims will come from here probably.


I would expect that only one nazgul would be in the mafia, and that would be the Witch-king. Saruman wouldn't be in the same mafia as Sauron because Saruman betrayed him and had made his own armies to try and get the ring first.


That's what I meant with nazgul.

So what do you think then, two groups of 2 mafia? or two groups of 3 plus the 9 fellowship?

I figured I would get a few votes for it, by SCUM!

unvote vote suspect

Actually you forgot gollum, and I doubt he's forgotten. I assume the saruman and grima(probably traitor) are in cahoots, leaving room for gollum.


You seem awfully sure that one character is gollum? I wonder why...
Vote: William for being a ring stealing, schizophrenic thief.

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 8:44 pm
by spiesr
nagerous wrote:Bandwagonning is wrong...
EXCEPT WHEN IT IS PMC'S MUM WE ARE BANDWAGGONING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHOS WITH ME???!
Hear hear!

Minister Masket wrote:No vote from me yet. Let's wait until one pillock here inevitably cocks up and starts drawing votes.
And then what, you gonna bandwagon them?

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 9:17 pm
by william18
Mr. Squirrel wrote:
william18 wrote:
pmchugh wrote:
william18 wrote:
pmchugh wrote:vote nag cause he's clearly saruman.

Likely roles, not that it really matters:
The 9 fellowship members.
Sauron
Saruman
Nazgul?
Another scum possibly. Lurtz or Orc or similar.

+2/3 others. Probably a 3rd party player, Gollum?
And probably 1 or 2 from Theoden/Eomer/Arwen/Farimir/Eowen/Elf dude that dies at Helms deep/Group of people e.g. Rohirrim. - Most fake claims will come from here probably.


I would expect that only one nazgul would be in the mafia, and that would be the Witch-king. Saruman wouldn't be in the same mafia as Sauron because Saruman betrayed him and had made his own armies to try and get the ring first.


That's what I meant with nazgul.

So what do you think then, two groups of 2 mafia? or two groups of 3 plus the 9 fellowship?

I figured I would get a few votes for it, by SCUM!

unvote vote suspect

Actually you forgot gollum, and I doubt he's forgotten. I assume the saruman and grima(probably traitor) are in cahoots, leaving room for gollum.


You seem awfully sure that one character is gollum? I wonder why...
Vote: William for being a ring stealing, schizophrenic thief.


Apperently you don't realize Gollums importance to the entire book(s)

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 9:42 pm
by Mr. Squirrel
william18 wrote:Apperently you don't realize Gollums importance to the entire book(s)

I have read the books, and I agree that he does play a pivotal role, but it doesn't necessarily mean he was included in this game. From the looks of the opening lines, there are 9 townies:
stroop wrote:Today Frodo, Sam, Merry, Pippin, Gandalf, Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli and Boromir begin their long, dangerous journey into the heart of enemy territory

5 Mafia or nazgul:
stroop wrote: the group is attacked by five of the Black Riders that have been tracking Frodo

and possibly one Mafia leader: sauron
stroop wrote:to put an end to the threat that is Sauron

With his initial description of the game, I don't see how you would come to the conclusion that Gollum is in it unless you had some sort of info we didn't.

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 10:02 pm
by Hologram
nagerous wrote:
pmchugh wrote:But don't forget that not all bandwaggoning is wrong, its very unlikely that everyone will find there own unique reason to vote for someone so sometimes you just have to go along with opther people in order to achieve a lynch.


Bandwagonning is wrong...

EXCEPT WHEN IT IS PMC'S MUM WE ARE BANDWAGGONING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WHOS WITH ME???!

OH SHEEEEEIT!

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 3:24 am
by Iliad
This game is started already-sorry I wasn't at my house. I'll catch up on the usual joke votes in a sec

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 5:07 am
by Iliad
pmchugh wrote:vote nag cause he's clearly saruman.

Likely roles, not that it really matters:
The 9 fellowship members.
Sauron
Saruman
Nazgul?
Another scum possibly. Lurtz or Orc or similar.

+2/3 others. Probably a 3rd party player, Gollum?
And probably 1 or 2 from Theoden/Eomer/Arwen/Farimir/Eowen/Elf dude that dies at Helms deep/Group of people e.g. Rohirrim. - Most fake claims will come from here probably.

You seem awfully sure of how many mafia there are? You know who else is pretty sure how many mafia there are? The mafia!

Vote pmchugh

Checkmate.

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 5:53 am
by Stroop
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Vote count

nagerous - 1 (Clive)
pmchugh - 4 (spiesr, Suspect101, karelpietertje, Iliad)
Falkomagno - 1 (nagerous)
william18 - 2 (Falkomagno, Mr. Squirrel)
karelpietertje - 3 (AceArtemis, sam_levi_11, Hologram)
Hologram - 1 (pmchugh)

Not voting: william18, Minister Masket, Thezzaruz

With 15 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch.

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Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 6:00 am
by Clive
I don't like this wagon on Pmc. His deductions were logical.

Unvote;
Vote: Iliad

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 6:31 am
by Iliad
Clive wrote:I don't like this wagon on Pmc. His deductions were logical.

Unvote;
Vote: Iliad

Because I offered a completely serious vote on him.

Right. :P

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 7:45 am
by Minister Masket
spiesr wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:No vote from me yet. Let's wait until one pillock here inevitably cocks up and starts drawing votes.
And then what, you gonna bandwagon them?

Most of the time, no. Only when Day 1 starts to drag and things are not progressing.

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 8:58 am
by spiesr
Mr. Squirrel wrote:
william18 wrote:Apperently you don't realize Gollums importance to the entire book(s)

I have read the books, and I agree that he does play a pivotal role, but it doesn't necessarily mean he was included in this game. From the looks of the opening lines, there are 9 townies:
stroop wrote:Today Frodo, Sam, Merry, Pippin, Gandalf, Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli and Boromir begin their long, dangerous journey into the heart of enemy territory

5 Mafia or nazgul:
stroop wrote: the group is attacked by five of the Black Riders that have been tracking Frodo

and possibly one Mafia leader: sauron
stroop wrote:to put an end to the threat that is Sauron

With his initial description of the game, I don't see how you would come to the conclusion that Gollum is in it unless you had some sort of info we didn't.
Are you suggesting that this game is 9 town and 6(!) mafia? It seems like the town could get in trouble way to fast with those numbers. Seriously, if that is true then it would be likely that the game would be at LYOL on day 2. It seems more likely that there is a third party so that the mafia doesn't have such high numbers...

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:32 am
by william18
Mr. Squirrel wrote:
william18 wrote:Apperently you don't realize Gollums importance to the entire book(s)

I have read the books, and I agree that he does play a pivotal role, but it doesn't necessarily mean he was included in this game. From the looks of the opening lines, there are 9 townies:
stroop wrote:Today Frodo, Sam, Merry, Pippin, Gandalf, Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli and Boromir begin their long, dangerous journey into the heart of enemy territory

5 Mafia or nazgul:
stroop wrote: the group is attacked by five of the Black Riders that have been tracking Frodo

and possibly one Mafia leader: sauron
stroop wrote:to put an end to the threat that is Sauron

With his initial description of the game, I don't see how you would come to the conclusion that Gollum is in it unless you had some sort of info we didn't.


The nazgul were washed up in the Ford of Bruinen when Glorfindel commanded a wave of water. They meet a nazgul again, and he was flying above Sarn Gebir when the company were being assailed on the Anduin. Thats still far away. So I beleive only one nazgul would be still pursuiting, and the only one remotly capable of still being on their trail is the Witch-king. There has to be third party because it's unlikely that there is a mafia 2 thirds the size of the town.

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:16 am
by Mr. Squirrel
william18 wrote:
Mr. Squirrel wrote:
william18 wrote:Apperently you don't realize Gollums importance to the entire book(s)

I have read the books, and I agree that he does play a pivotal role, but it doesn't necessarily mean he was included in this game. From the looks of the opening lines, there are 9 townies:
stroop wrote:Today Frodo, Sam, Merry, Pippin, Gandalf, Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli and Boromir begin their long, dangerous journey into the heart of enemy territory

5 Mafia or nazgul:
stroop wrote: the group is attacked by five of the Black Riders that have been tracking Frodo

and possibly one Mafia leader: sauron
stroop wrote:to put an end to the threat that is Sauron

With his initial description of the game, I don't see how you would come to the conclusion that Gollum is in it unless you had some sort of info we didn't.


The nazgul were washed up in the Ford of Bruinen when Glorfindel commanded a wave of water. They meet a nazgul again, and he was flying above Sarn Gebir when the company were being assailed on the Anduin. Thats still far away. So I beleive only one nazgul would be still pursuiting, and the only one remotly capable of still being on their trail is the Witch-king. There has to be third party because it's unlikely that there is a mafia 2 thirds the size of the town.

Hmmm...I see what you mean. having 6 mafia members would make this extremely unbalanced in their favor. Sorry for my newbie-ness.

unvote:william...for now

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 12:26 pm
by pmchugh
Iliad wrote:
pmchugh wrote:vote nag cause he's clearly saruman.

Likely roles, not that it really matters:
The 9 fellowship members.
Sauron
Saruman
Nazgul?
Another scum possibly. Lurtz or Orc or similar.

+2/3 others. Probably a 3rd party player, Gollum?
And probably 1 or 2 from Theoden/Eomer/Arwen/Farimir/Eowen/Elf dude that dies at Helms deep/Group of people e.g. Rohirrim. - Most fake claims will come from here probably.

You seem awfully sure of how many mafia there are? You know who else is pretty sure how many mafia there are? The mafia!

Vote pmchugh

Checkmate.


Awfully sure? Yeah because words like "possibly" suggest I am 100% sure there is yeah makes sense.

I am now half way to a lynch for no apparent reason :?

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 12:37 pm
by Suspect101
pmchugh wrote:
Iliad wrote:
pmchugh wrote:vote nag cause he's clearly saruman.

Likely roles, not that it really matters:
The 9 fellowship members.
Sauron
Saruman
Nazgul?
Another scum possibly. Lurtz or Orc or similar.

+2/3 others. Probably a 3rd party player, Gollum?
And probably 1 or 2 from Theoden/Eomer/Arwen/Farimir/Eowen/Elf dude that dies at Helms deep/Group of people e.g. Rohirrim. - Most fake claims will come from here probably.

You seem awfully sure of how many mafia there are? You know who else is pretty sure how many mafia there are? The mafia!

Vote pmchugh

Checkmate.


Awfully sure? Yeah because words like "possibly" suggest I am 100% sure there is yeah makes sense.

I am now half way to a lynch for no apparent reason :?


Well your first post was a speculation about the game, usually scum do this, also as soon as I posted my vote on you, you immediately turned around with an OMGUS vote and voted for me. Now you are trying to say that we have no reason to get you closer towards a lynch.

So there are reasons, maybe not the best, but the best that we have so far I think.

Re: Lord of the Rings mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:40 pm
by spiesr
MM's has apparently stated that his strategy is to lurk until something happens, supposedly this would lessen the chances that whatever happens happens to him. This is a scum tactic so...
UNVOTE VOTE MM