Conquer Club

InkL0sed wrote:Jackson wasn't a horrible President, but he was a horrible man.

JJM gets the two confused.

While he was a general he promised any Indian tribe that fought on his side at the battle of New Orleans would be aloud to keep their land. When he became president he broke that promise and kicked them all west. If you don't call that awful then you are out of your mind.

neanderpaul14 wrote:

JJM wrote:My gosh people cut Hoover some slack at least he wasen't a crook like Nixion and Jackson.

Wasn't Hoover the one that decided to have a depression??

Thats a million times better than being a crook.

Please replace somebody with Jackson.

JJM wrote:

InkL0sed wrote:Jackson wasn't a horrible President, but he was a horrible man.

JJM gets the two confused.

While he was a general he promised any Indian tribe that fought on his side at the battle of New Orleans would be aloud to keep their land. When he became president he broke that promise and kicked them all west. If you don't call that awful then you are out of your mind.

I'm not a fan, no; but I don't hate him as a President overall. I don't agree at all with what he did, but a lot of people think that his policies were overall beneficial for us, which is how most people judge Presidents. I personally think his war on the National Bank was a major contributor to the later Panics and maybe even the Depression. And I definitely don't like his treatment of Indians. But it wasn't like he had a disastrous Presidency. One could argue even Kennedy had a worse Presidency (seeing as we almost had nuclear war under him); and a lot of people think he was a great President, and you don't seem to have such a hate for him.

I get that you don't like Jackson as a person; neither do I. But that's not how you should judge his Presidency.

jajama has straight up the strangest opinions about american history i've ever seen. not the most repugnant, the most insane, or the stupidest. the flat out weirdest. this includes people who think george h.w. bush murdered kennedy to make way for the reptillian subjugation of mankind

carter, Pierce somebody.

buchanan was the worst by a long shot!

InkL0sed wrote:

JJM wrote:

InkL0sed wrote:Jackson wasn't a horrible President, but he was a horrible man.

JJM gets the two confused.

While he was a general he promised any Indian tribe that fought on his side at the battle of New Orleans would be aloud to keep their land. When he became president he broke that promise and kicked them all west. If you don't call that awful then you are out of your mind.

I'm not a fan, no; but I don't hate him as a President overall. I don't agree at all with what he did, but a lot of people think that his policies were overall beneficial for us, which is how most people judge Presidents. I personally think his war on the National Bank was a major contributor to the later Panics and maybe even the Depression. And I definitely don't like his treatment of Indians. But it wasn't like he had a disastrous Presidency. One could argue even Kennedy had a worse Presidency (seeing as we almost had nuclear war under him); and a lot of people think he was a great President, and you don't seem to have such a hate for him.

I get that you don't like Jackson as a person; neither do I. But that's not how you should judge his Presidency.

There is absolutly no excuse for his signing of the Indian Removal Act.

SultanOfSurreal wrote:jajama has straight up the strangest opinions about american history i've ever seen. not the most repugnant, the most insane, or the stupidest. the flat out weirdest. this includes people who think george h.w. bush murdered kennedy to make way for the reptillian subjugation of mankind

hehehe no comment...

JJM wrote:

InkL0sed wrote:

JJM wrote:

InkL0sed wrote:Jackson wasn't a horrible President, but he was a horrible man.

JJM gets the two confused.

While he was a general he promised any Indian tribe that fought on his side at the battle of New Orleans would be aloud to keep their land. When he became president he broke that promise and kicked them all west. If you don't call that awful then you are out of your mind.

I'm not a fan, no; but I don't hate him as a President overall. I don't agree at all with what he did, but a lot of people think that his policies were overall beneficial for us, which is how most people judge Presidents. I personally think his war on the National Bank was a major contributor to the later Panics and maybe even the Depression. And I definitely don't like his treatment of Indians. But it wasn't like he had a disastrous Presidency. One could argue even Kennedy had a worse Presidency (seeing as we almost had nuclear war under him); and a lot of people think he was a great President, and you don't seem to have such a hate for him.

I get that you don't like Jackson as a person; neither do I. But that's not how you should judge his Presidency.

There is absolutly no excuse for his signing of the Indian Removal Act.

I'm not disagreeing with that; but how was that worse than, say the Alien and Sedition Acts, or the Palmer Raids, or Andrew Johnson's vetoing of every Reconstruction bill under the sun?

ronc8649 wrote:buchanan was the worst by a long shot!

Buchanan was awful to but Jackson was a pure scoundral.

InkL0sed wrote:

JJM wrote:

InkL0sed wrote:

JJM wrote:

InkL0sed wrote:Jackson wasn't a horrible President, but he was a horrible man.

JJM gets the two confused.

While he was a general he promised any Indian tribe that fought on his side at the battle of New Orleans would be aloud to keep their land. When he became president he broke that promise and kicked them all west. If you don't call that awful then you are out of your mind.

I'm not a fan, no; but I don't hate him as a President overall. I don't agree at all with what he did, but a lot of people think that his policies were overall beneficial for us, which is how most people judge Presidents. I personally think his war on the National Bank was a major contributor to the later Panics and maybe even the Depression. And I definitely don't like his treatment of Indians. But it wasn't like he had a disastrous Presidency. One could argue even Kennedy had a worse Presidency (seeing as we almost had nuclear war under him); and a lot of people think he was a great President, and you don't seem to have such a hate for him.

I get that you don't like Jackson as a person; neither do I. But that's not how you should judge his Presidency.

There is absolutly no excuse for his signing of the Indian Removal Act.

I'm not disagreeing with that; but how was that worse than, say the Alien and Sedition Acts, or the Palmer Raids, or Andrew Johnson's vetoing of every Reconstruction bill under the sun?

jackson traveled to the future and killed jajama's father in a duel

then resettled him and his mother to oregon

Interesting; did he then pay Sophocles a visit?

Just put Jackson on.

I think the 54th US president is going to suck, just can't imagine him/her being any good whatsoever. Anyone else think so?

JJM wrote:Just put Jackson on.

make a case for taylor's awesomeness beyond talking big to fellow slaveowners

JJM wrote:Just put Jackson on.

When you get to high school, I recommend taking debate, if the village* you live in offers that. You need some help with your argumentative skills, and I mean that in the most respectful way possible.

* I can't recall anything in North Dakota with a larger population.

Dispite all the opposition Taylor was determind to have California join as a free state.

JJM wrote:Dispite all the opposition Taylor was determind to have California join as a free state.

50% of the people in the US (all of the north) wanted that. (This is what I was talking about in my last post here)

The Neon Peon wrote:* I can't recall anything in North Dakota with a larger population.

don't be so rude

north dakota has at least one shire

JJM wrote:

InkL0sed wrote:Jackson wasn't a horrible President, but he was a horrible man.

JJM gets the two confused.

While he was a general he promised any Indian tribe that fought on his side at the battle of New Orleans would be aloud to keep their land. When he became president he broke that promise and kicked them all west. If you don't call that awful then you are out of your mind.

Oh god forbid a president who lied to people, and to the Indians nonetheless. I'm sure Jackson must have been the only president we ever had that lied to people, and certainly the only one to have an anti-Indian policy.

By the way, John Tyler was the only president to have been labeled as an enemy of the state, as after his term, he joined the Confederacy and served the South!

I see many informed, intelligent comments

but if the American education system only teaches Americans their own history for a year, I assumed the comments made by the younger members of the forum are based on their parents opinion and not on actual facts.

I base this assumption on the bad spelling and grammer of one member who has difficulty spelling his own name and who exclaims disdain at some of the more informed posts.

yes I voted Bush worst president

captain.crazy wrote:By the way, John Tyler was the only president to have been labeled as an enemy of the state, as after his term, he joined the Confederacy and served the South!

Really? Very interesting (that may have sounded sarcastic, but really, it is)

InkL0sed wrote:

captain.crazy wrote:By the way, John Tyler was the only president to have been labeled as an enemy of the state, as after his term, he joined the Confederacy and served the South!

Really? Very interesting (that may have sounded sarcastic, but really, it is)

Yes, I met his Great Great Grandson, who informed me of this, but I believe that you could verify this online...