Conquer Club

pimpdave wrote:

jiminski wrote:So i don't reckon we can with all honesty blame Mo for terrorism.

We can blame Mo for his version of terrorism.

We can blame Mo for confusing soldiers with martyrs, and civilians with military targets.

hmm, i think that is a fairly biased viewpoint. Religion is mostly a tool to make desperate men brave.
Faced with the imperial, martial leviathon of the United States, small boys with stones took drastic measures and became grown men with kalashnikovs. We trained them to be killers against the Russians and then pulled the plug when they no longer suited our purpose.

A simplistic view also.. but we created their brand of terrorism to a far greater degree than Mo ever could have.

Was the IRA ever known for using suicide bombers?

This is a serious question. I'm actually painfully ignorant about the history of terrorism in the UK, but from what little I do know is that it's the most common historic example of how to combat it.

And how often did the IRA intentionally target civilians?

pimpdave wrote:
We can blame Mo for confusing soldiers with martyrs, and civilians with military targets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_war_in_Islam#Civilian_areas

As you see it's not Mo we can blame but islamist terrorists.

Ntetos wrote:

pimpdave wrote:
We can blame Mo for confusing soldiers with martyrs, and civilians with military targets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_war_in_Islam#Civilian_areas

As you see it's not Mo we can blame but islamist terrorists.

Have you read the Qu'ran?

Or just the wikipedia article on it?

(Dismissed)

Hm...I went with Twill, although I really had to stop and think about both Jesus and Mohammad. The thing is, even if we had nipped both of those ones at the bud, there would have been others to step up to the plate. There are some types of people who can't go through life without
A. Falling for some lunatic cult and
B. Spreading their faith rather than just letting it die with them

pimpdave wrote:Was the IRA ever known for using suicide bombers?

This is a serious question. I'm actually painfully ignorant about the history of terrorism in the UK, but from what little I do know is that it's the most common historic example of how to combat it.

And how often did the IRA intentionally target civilians?

heh, well the IRA were tethered by their need not to upset their financiers in the USA (civilian targets were not good PR) and they were too cowardly to be suicide bombers.

The advent of the Muslim terrorist made it impossible for the IRA to survive, as much as the Irish peoples desire for peace.

Me. Let's see the universe deal with *that* paradox.

The Backstreet Boys are neck and neck with the Prophet Mohamed!

Didn't they pull off some massive bank heist in the last few years? Took a bank president's family hostage, sent him to the bank to clean it out.

Real hollywood stuff.

The1exile wrote:Me. Let's see the universe deal with *that* paradox.

Did anyone else hear a sort of

"WWWHOoooppsss!!!!" noise just then?

pimpdave wrote:Didn't they pull off some massive bank heist in the last few years? Took a bank president's family hostage, sent him to the bank to clean it out.

Real hollywood stuff.

heh, yeah a splinter, hard-line faction did it.. it was kind of a last hurrah.
Not to diminish the core reason of their struggle in any way but they have been more a gangster organisation than a freedom fighters army, for many years.

jonesthecurl wrote:

The1exile wrote:Me. Let's see the universe deal with *that* paradox.

Did anyone else hear a sort of

"WWWHOoooppsss!!!!" noise just then?

i don't think the universe can resolve this one! Einstein used the same principal to disprove the possibility of time-travel, so it is a pretty solid paradox.

How does one 'xpunge fictional characters from existence?

Frop wrote:How does one 'xpunge fictional characters from existence?

With products purchased at Acme.

pimpdave wrote:

Frop wrote:How does one 'xpunge fictional characters from existence?

With products purchased at Acme.

I'm afraid Acme™'s Messiah-B-Gone never got past animal testing. =|

Whoever voted for Jesus obviously doesn't know the ramifications that would result from Him not existing.

jay_a2j wrote:Whoever voted for Jesus obviously doesn't know the ramifications that would result from Him not existing.

you opened yourself up there Jay

damnit, I cann't choose Hitler, the Bush's and Backstreet Boys? All three have destroyed history in thier own special way

jay_a2j wrote:Whoever voted for Jesus obviously doesn't know the ramifications that would result from Him not existing.

Actually, I think that they completely aware that killing-off a random crank from the Middle East would have the effect of drastically reducing the number of idiotic, dogma-spouting, cybermonks in the future.

Given that snuffing out Jesus would have no ramifications other than that... your point appears to be moot.

Dancing Mustard wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:Whoever voted for Jesus obviously doesn't know the ramifications that would result from Him not existing.

Actually, I think that they completely aware that killing-off a random crank from the Middle East would have the effect of drastically reducing the number of idiotic, dogma-spouting, cybermonks in the future.

Given that snuffing out Jesus would have no ramifications other than that... your point appears to be moot.

That was my line of thought, but unless we were to get rid of every single wackjob that came up with a religion killing off one or two doesn't matter.

maybe we could just off L Ron Hubbard...

Corey Haim and Corey Feldman

Ramifications:
1. profit shares for illegal substance distributors would be 15% lower between 1985-1999
2. Lost Boys could have paved the way for Scott Baio and Kirk Cameron instead
3. Feldman's moderately hot wife would possibly still be available
4. upcoming Crank 2 movie would need to find a new extra instead of Haim

with that said, I think the world would be okay without them.

Dancing Mustard wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:Whoever voted for Jesus obviously doesn't know the ramifications that would result from Him not existing.

Actually, I think that they completely aware that killing-off a random crank from the Middle East would have the effect of drastically reducing the number of idiotic, dogma-spouting, cybermonks in the future.

Given that snuffing out Jesus would have no ramifications other than that... your point appears to be moot.

Sorry, I gotta side with Jay on this one.. BUT I certainly acknowledge this only applies to those of us who follow the path of Christianity.

jonesthecurl wrote:maybe we could just off L Ron Hubbard...

But then we could not make nearly as much fun of Tom Cruise.... spoil sport!

jay_a2j wrote:Whoever voted for Jesus obviously doesn't know the ramifications that would result from Him not existing.

Nothing would have changed at all, you would simply be worshiping somebody named Brian or whatever.