Conquer Club

At least he didn't suicide you just to hand the game to the next highest rank.

hmm tough call to say if it was the "best move" but it seemed like one that deffinately gave you a chance

this is one of those moves that happens every once in a while that brings up the question "do you make the move that gives you the best chance to win the game, or do you make the move that kind of sort of gives you half a chance to win, but doesnt lose anyone else the game"

for me, i say if i have to try to attack 40 to 60 because i honestly believe that move is THE ONLY WAY that i can have a realistic shot at winning, im gonna do it everytime, even if i cost whoever it was that I attacked the game that they should of had, it doesnt matter to me

you play to WIN the game

however, ive been in scott's positiong many times and it is completely with in his right to be upset, but thats the game i guess--- it might not even have been the best move out there, who knows? there were many options im sure, important thing is did YOU believe it was the right move at the time, and do you still think that way? ---listen to what scott's got to say he's a seasoned vet, learn from it (whether you think what you did was right or not) and move on

barterer2002 wrote:

Scott-Land wrote:Instead of justifying your ridiculous plays, at least 3 that game alone, look inward and learn from your mistakes- apologize then move on.

Obviously scott, you're a brilliant player. I think we all can recognize that. I'd have probably made the same move he made at that particular point in the game as as I'd like to learn to be better could you explain why its a particularly bad move at this point?

Thanks
B

I wasn't even going to reply in this thread at all, it's obvious that Haha firmly believes that his play was the correct one- which by the way was a complete failure. When I'm in a position where I have little chance to win, I don't influence the game to give it to another. I either setup a play where it doesn't adversely affect the game or I do little to nothing. Wayne made a mistake by going after me leaving me with 14 armies on 5 terr's. Haha had 17 in Congo and 8 in Ukraine at the beginning of my turn. Without me having a 3 card set, he would've easily won.

Fast forward, I cashed and left Wayne with about 18 armies and 3 cards to setup Haha to either kill him or hang him- either way without a mid-turn I easily win but actually didn't think he would, suppose he's not that big of a dipshit. It also left me with 17 attack armies and 17 income to take 34 vs 23 the following turn across 9 or so terrs- def not an automatic kill.

Instead Haha takes his 17 armies breaks/takes sa runs up through N America. Now he only has 9 attack armies after forting to Ukraine with his income it's 15. Mind you it's 9 terr's to get into Aussie regardless if I hang Wayne or not. Leaving me with 21 vs 23 split into Mid East and back down into Aussie, there's no way in hell I even get close to the kill. I'd need ridiculous magical dice.

For all of you that were quick to agree that he wasn't a dipshit, the proper play was to leave my NA and SA bonus intact. Under NO circumstances should the two weakest players attack one another when its down to 3 players. He drops 3 in Ukraine- takes N Africa, Egypt and Ural. Taps my 17 down to to maybe 11or 12 forts his stack to Ural. He gives me a shot at a kill 29ish vs 23 ( a reasonable shot at failure) and if I miss- he now has (depending on his dice in Ural) 23+3 income for 26 armies to make the kill and win the game. It's just common sense not to stop a player from winning to give it to another. Going through my bonuses gave me no shot at Wayne. As a result, Wayne won.

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

someone beat me

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

someone beat me

Nice star Jr- ohh wait it doesn't have points... it's a flower. How pretty...

Scott-Land wrote:

Nice star Jr- ohh wait it doesn't have points... it's a flower. How pretty...

Scott-Land wrote:

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

someone beat me

Nice star Jr- ohh wait it doesn't have points... it's a flower. How pretty...

where were you earlier when i had 2 stripes? points are easy to come by......nice medal count you have !!!!

I could see Scott complaining about dice easily... but unless your move was a bad one he usually won't say anything.

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote: points are easy to come by......nice medal count you have !!!!

From the looks of it- not for some. D'oh

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

someone beat me

Quite often it would seem

Scott-Land wrote:

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote: points are easy to come by......nice medal count you have !!!!

From the looks of it- not for some. D'oh

It takes no skill simply to play a huge amount of games - just not much of a life outside of the internet

Bad Sportsmanship shouldnt be tolerated!!! Take your defeat like a man. Risk is hardly Chess for godsake!

hulmey wrote:Bad Sportsmanship shouldnt be tolerated!!! Take your defeat like a man. Risk is hardly Chess for godsake!

I'm not the one posted because I got called a dipshit-- OMG.... hurry, run to mum.


I've already posted why he's a dipshit..... what else do you want from me?

I wasn't even going to reply in this thread at all, it's obvious that Haha firmly believes that his play was the correct one- which by the way was a complete failure. When I'm in a position where I have little chance to win, I don't influence the game to give it to another. I either setup a play where it doesn't adversely affect the game or I do little to nothing. Wayne made a mistake by going after me leaving me with 14 armies on 5 terr's. Haha had 17 in Congo and 8 in Ukraine at the beginning of my turn. Without me having a 3 card set, he would've easily won.

Fast forward, I cashed and left Wayne with about 18 armies and 3 cards to setup Haha to either kill him or hang him- either way without a mid-turn I easily win but actually didn't think he would, suppose he's not that big of a dipshit. It also left me with 17 attack armies and 17 income to take 34 vs 23 the following turn across 9 or so terrs- def not an automatic kill.

Instead Haha takes his 17 armies breaks/takes sa runs up through N America. Now he only has 9 attack armies after forting to Ukraine with his income it's 15. Mind you it's 9 terr's to get into Aussie regardless if I hang Wayne or not. Leaving me with 21 vs 23 split into Mid East and back down into Aussie, there's no way in hell I even get close to the kill. I'd need ridiculous magical dice.

For all of you that were quick to agree that he wasn't a dipshit, the proper play was to leave my NA and SA bonus intact. Under NO circumstances should the two weakest players attack one another when its down to 3 players. He drops 3 in Ukraine- takes N Africa, Egypt and Ural. Taps my 17 down to to maybe 11or 12 forts his stack to Ural. He gives me a shot at a kill 29ish vs 23 ( a reasonable shot at failure) and if I miss- he now has (depending on his dice in Ural) 23+3 income for 26 armies to make the kill and win the game. It's just common sense not to stop a player from winning to give it to another. Going through my bonuses gave me no shot at Wayne. As a result, Wayne won.

after reading this more in depth account of the game, haha doesnt seem to have made the best move~~~~he seems to have overkilled scott (29 vs 23 wouldve been nice to try to set up... if every game i ever played came down to my opponent having 29 vs 23 for a kill then relatively easy cleanup after, id be a happy cat) but everyone has got to learn sometime.

this seems to making a mountain out of a mole hill, scott was just dishing out some tough love hes old fashioned like that ^_^

Its called Risk....Scot has a history of being a loud mouthed bad loser. Not that i care coz freestyle is for losers anyway!

I don't like it when Scott calls me "dipshit".. that's why I have him on ignore... and I don't join his games....


Now seriously... aren't you getting too much attention? every 2 months or so I get to see one of this "Scott-was-mean-to-me" threads...

I thought I made a thread about how high ranked players have bad personalities and big egos. This thread just proves my point!

scott,

You are not a strong enough player to win this game. The fact that you did not play properly does not entitle you to call somebody a "dipshit". I have notified the moderators of you offense and will press for a forum ban for you.

wrestler1ump wrote:scott,

You are not a strong enough player to win this game. The fact that you did not play properly does not entitle you to call somebody a "dipshit". I have notified the moderators of you offense and will press for a forum ban for you.

Scott is a great player, just because you two have issues does not mean you can blatantly deny his skill. Everyone gets irritated when people play without regard to what seems like the correct strategy for the game at the time. People should never take it too seriously, I used to at first, but then I learned I really was making stupid plays, and I should learn from these guys instead of fight them every time I do something idiotic. People need to get over their ego sometimes and admit that sometimes they make the wrong choices, like the OP should've. I don't think Scott was in the wrong to be mad at this.

InsomniaRed wrote:

wrestler1ump wrote:scott,

You are not a strong enough player to win this game. The fact that you did not play properly does not entitle you to call somebody a "dipshit". I have notified the moderators of you offense and will press for a forum ban for you.

Scott is a great player, just because you two have issues does not mean you can blatantly deny his skill. Everyone gets irritated when people play without regard to what seems like the correct strategy for the game at the time. People should never take it too seriously, I used to at first, but then I learned I really was making stupid plays, and I should learn from these guys instead of fight them every time I do something idiotic. People need to get over their ego sometimes and admit that sometimes they make the wrong choices, like the OP should've. I don't think Scott was in the wrong to be mad at this.

abit like u throwing the game for Scott recently. Ive a good mind to report u to the cheating admins

hulmey wrote:

InsomniaRed wrote:

wrestler1ump wrote:scott,

You are not a strong enough player to win this game. The fact that you did not play properly does not entitle you to call somebody a "dipshit". I have notified the moderators of you offense and will press for a forum ban for you.

Scott is a great player, just because you two have issues does not mean you can blatantly deny his skill. Everyone gets irritated when people play without regard to what seems like the correct strategy for the game at the time. People should never take it too seriously, I used to at first, but then I learned I really was making stupid plays, and I should learn from these guys instead of fight them every time I do something idiotic. People need to get over their ego sometimes and admit that sometimes they make the wrong choices, like the OP should've. I don't think Scott was in the wrong to be mad at this.

abit like u throwing the game for Scott recently. Ive a good mind to report u to the cheating admins

I did not throw any game to Scott. I'm sorry you thought it looked like I was cheating, but Scott is just faster than me and I made a small mistake. That in no way means I threw him the game. Sorry you lost, but to call me a cheater is rude.

InsomniaRed wrote:

hulmey wrote:

InsomniaRed wrote:

wrestler1ump wrote:scott,

You are not a strong enough player to win this game. The fact that you did not play properly does not entitle you to call somebody a "dipshit". I have notified the moderators of you offense and will press for a forum ban for you.

Scott is a great player, just because you two have issues does not mean you can blatantly deny his skill. Everyone gets irritated when people play without regard to what seems like the correct strategy for the game at the time. People should never take it too seriously, I used to at first, but then I learned I really was making stupid plays, and I should learn from these guys instead of fight them every time I do something idiotic. People need to get over their ego sometimes and admit that sometimes they make the wrong choices, like the OP should've. I don't think Scott was in the wrong to be mad at this.

abit like u throwing the game for Scott recently. Ive a good mind to report u to the cheating admins

I did not throw any game to Scott. I'm sorry you thought it looked like I was cheating, but Scott is just faster than me and I made a small mistake. That in no way means I threw him the game. Sorry you lost, but to call me a cheater is rude.

You had been autoattcking all game and then on the last 2 countries u just used the attack button!! i know this coz i saw ur troop count go down from 10 to 8. This gave scott time to come in and clear me for my cards and cash 50...

Scott also fuked me dis-honestly. Then he said it was coz he was lagging!!! so was he lagging and still faster than u at the same time. You freestyle guys are a bunch of crooks

Ps....i would have lost anyway coz scott blocked me and then went back on his word!!! He got 1's from me for that and my ignore list

hulmey wrote:

InsomniaRed wrote:

hulmey wrote:

InsomniaRed wrote:

wrestler1ump wrote:scott,

You are not a strong enough player to win this game. The fact that you did not play properly does not entitle you to call somebody a "dipshit". I have notified the moderators of you offense and will press for a forum ban for you.

Scott is a great player, just because you two have issues does not mean you can blatantly deny his skill. Everyone gets irritated when people play without regard to what seems like the correct strategy for the game at the time. People should never take it too seriously, I used to at first, but then I learned I really was making stupid plays, and I should learn from these guys instead of fight them every time I do something idiotic. People need to get over their ego sometimes and admit that sometimes they make the wrong choices, like the OP should've. I don't think Scott was in the wrong to be mad at this.

abit like u throwing the game for Scott recently. Ive a good mind to report u to the cheating admins

I did not throw any game to Scott. I'm sorry you thought it looked like I was cheating, but Scott is just faster than me and I made a small mistake. That in no way means I threw him the game. Sorry you lost, but to call me a cheater is rude.

You had been autoattcking all game and then on the last 2 countries u just used the attack button!! i know this coz i saw ur troop count go down from 10 to 8. This gave scott time to come in and clear me for my cards and cash 50...

Scott also fuked me dis-honestly. Then he said it was coz he was lagging!!! so was he lagging and still faster than u at the same time. You freestyle guys are a bunch of crooks

Ps....i would have lost anyway coz scott blocked me and then went back on his word!!! He got 1's from me for that and my ignore list

The truth is that I hit West Aussie on accident, and I clicked the wrong side of the touchpad, and I am new at CM, still doesn't mean I was cheating or giving the game to anyone.

PS- Since you knew you were going to lose anyway, why does this matter? You're just reaching for something that isn't there.
PPS - I don't think Scott minds that he's on your ignore.

Paddy The Cat wrote:

I wasn't even going to reply in this thread at all, it's obvious that Haha firmly believes that his play was the correct one- which by the way was a complete failure. When I'm in a position where I have little chance to win, I don't influence the game to give it to another. I either setup a play where it doesn't adversely affect the game or I do little to nothing. Wayne made a mistake by going after me leaving me with 14 armies on 5 terr's. Haha had 17 in Congo and 8 in Ukraine at the beginning of my turn. Without me having a 3 card set, he would've easily won.

Fast forward, I cashed and left Wayne with about 18 armies and 3 cards to setup Haha to either kill him or hang him- either way without a mid-turn I easily win but actually didn't think he would, suppose he's not that big of a dipshit. It also left me with 17 attack armies and 17 income to take 34 vs 23 the following turn across 9 or so terrs- def not an automatic kill.

Instead Haha takes his 17 armies breaks/takes sa runs up through N America. Now he only has 9 attack armies after forting to Ukraine with his income it's 15. Mind you it's 9 terr's to get into Aussie regardless if I hang Wayne or not. Leaving me with 21 vs 23 split into Mid East and back down into Aussie, there's no way in hell I even get close to the kill. I'd need ridiculous magical dice.

For all of you that were quick to agree that he wasn't a dipshit, the proper play was to leave my NA and SA bonus intact. Under NO circumstances should the two weakest players attack one another when its down to 3 players. He drops 3 in Ukraine- takes N Africa, Egypt and Ural. Taps my 17 down to to maybe 11or 12 forts his stack to Ural. He gives me a shot at a kill 29ish vs 23 ( a reasonable shot at failure) and if I miss- he now has (depending on his dice in Ural) 23+3 income for 26 armies to make the kill and win the game. It's just common sense not to stop a player from winning to give it to another. Going through my bonuses gave me no shot at Wayne. As a result, Wayne won.

after reading this more in depth account of the game, haha doesnt seem to have made the best move~~~~he seems to have overkilled scott (29 vs 23 wouldve been nice to try to set up... if every game i ever played came down to my opponent having 29 vs 23 for a kill then relatively easy cleanup after, id be a happy cat) but everyone has got to learn sometime.

this seems to making a mountain out of a mole hill, scott was just dishing out some tough love hes old fashioned like that ^_^

Thanks Paddy- for seeing the play for what it was. Going off topic-- ffs I've even called them a Fucking dipshit before and never got a thread made = )

ABSOLUTE_MASTER wrote:I don't like it when Scott calls me "dipshit".. that's why I have him on ignore... and I don't join his games....


Now seriously... aren't you getting too much attention? every 2 months or so I get to see one of this "Scott-was-mean-to-me" threads...

I call you dipshit in such a loving way Abs.

Attention ? "It's hard goddamn work being this good......"

Yeah you and George W have something in common -- hubris.