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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:58 am
by got tonkaed
wait, is ron paul running for president?

How did i miss this!

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:17 am
by heavycola


Ron Paul's not attracting white supremacists, he's attracting Americans™

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:22 am
by radiojake
heavycola wrote:
Ron Paul's not attracting white supremacists, he's attracting Americans™


Gold.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:23 am
by Guiscard
heavycola wrote:


Ron Paul's not attracting white supremacists, he's attracting Americans™


This is one of my favorite resonses:
Anyone who doesn't vote for Paul on this site is an assclown. Sure he doesn't come right out and say he is a WN, who cares! He promotes agendas and ideas that allow Nationalism to flourish. If we "get there" without having to raise hell, who cares; aslong as we finally get what we want. I don't understand why some people do not support this man, Hitler is dead, and we shall probably never see another man like him.
Pat Buchanan's book "Where the Right Went Wrong" is a prime example of getting the point across without having the book banned for anti semitism. The chapters about the war in Iraq sound like a BarMitzvah, but he doesn't have to put the Star of David next to each name for us to know what he means. We are running out of options at this point, and I will take someone is 90% with us versus any of the other choices.

Not to mention if Paul makes a serious run, he legitimizes White Nationalism and Stormfront, for God's sake David Duke is behind this guy!

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:34 am
by jay_a2j
Guiscard wrote:
heavycola wrote:


Ron Paul's not attracting white supremacists, he's attracting Americans™


This is one of my favorite resonses:
Anyone who doesn't vote for Paul on this site is an assclown. Sure he doesn't come right out and say he is a WN, who cares! He promotes agendas and ideas that allow Nationalism to flourish. If we "get there" without having to raise hell, who cares; aslong as we finally get what we want. I don't understand why some people do not support this man, Hitler is dead, and we shall probably never see another man like him.
Pat Buchanan's book "Where the Right Went Wrong" is a prime example of getting the point across without having the book banned for anti semitism. The chapters about the war in Iraq sound like a BarMitzvah, but he doesn't have to put the Star of David next to each name for us to know what he means. We are running out of options at this point, and I will take someone is 90% with us versus any of the other choices.

Not to mention if Paul makes a serious run, he legitimizes White Nationalism and Stormfront, for God's sake David Duke is behind this guy!




Give me a break! There are nuts supporting EVERY candidate running! You think there are no racists supporting Hillary? Or Guliani? Wake up and stop making Ron Paul out to be the next Hitler! How many people with brown skin is Bush responsible for killing? Look into what Ron Paul advocates, then judge him. Condemning a man based on the words of someone who supports him, speaks volumes of the one condemning.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:40 am
by heavycola
jay_a2j wrote:Look into what Ron Paul advocates, then judge him.


Stormfront sure did! And they liked him so much, they gave him a load of cash!


No other candidate has been publically endorsed - or funded - by a white supremacist group. That speaks volumes about Ron Paul, and that's why I'll be voting for him.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:42 am
by Guiscard
jay_a2j wrote:Give me a break! There are nuts supporting EVERY candidate running! You think there are no racists supporting Hillary? Or Guliani? Wake up and stop making Ron Paul out to be the next Hitler! How many people with brown skin is Bush responsible for killing? Look into what Ron Paul advocates, then judge him. Condemning a man based on the words of someone who supports him, speaks volumes of the one condemning.


What? Who was condemning him?

Simply pointing out he has a large base of white supremacist supports, perhaps combined with the fact that he has been financially linked to white power groups in the past... Oh wait...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:46 am
by radiojake
jay_a2j wrote:
Guiscard wrote:
heavycola wrote:


Ron Paul's not attracting white supremacists, he's attracting Americans™


This is one of my favorite resonses:
Anyone who doesn't vote for Paul on this site is an assclown. Sure he doesn't come right out and say he is a WN, who cares! He promotes agendas and ideas that allow Nationalism to flourish. If we "get there" without having to raise hell, who cares; aslong as we finally get what we want. I don't understand why some people do not support this man, Hitler is dead, and we shall probably never see another man like him.
Pat Buchanan's book "Where the Right Went Wrong" is a prime example of getting the point across without having the book banned for anti semitism. The chapters about the war in Iraq sound like a BarMitzvah, but he doesn't have to put the Star of David next to each name for us to know what he means. We are running out of options at this point, and I will take someone is 90% with us versus any of the other choices.

Not to mention if Paul makes a serious run, he legitimizes White Nationalism and Stormfront, for God's sake David Duke is behind this guy!




Give me a break! There are nuts supporting EVERY candidate running! You think there are no racists supporting Hillary? Or Guliani? Wake up and stop making Ron Paul out to be the next Hitler! How many people with brown skin is Bush responsible for killing? Look into what Ron Paul advocates, then judge him. Condemning a man based on the words of someone who supports him, speaks volumes of the one condemning.



I thought you would respond to that like you have.

Having read a bit more about Ron Paul and watching the youtube video, I can't believe you guys are falling for that shit. All he is doing is selling the stereotyped picture of America and decorating it with American Flags. But then again, there's nothing easier than selling an American flag to an American.

Don't worry jay, with Ron Paul president you may well start heading back to the good ol' days where just hard working, white christian republicans were around, and you didn't have to worry bout all those southerners coming up over the border and stealing your jobs!!

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:48 am
by jay_a2j
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Look into what Ron Paul advocates, then judge him.


Stormfront sure did! And they liked him so much, they gave him a load of cash!


No other candidate has been publically endorsed - or funded - by a white supremacist group. That speaks volumes about Ron Paul, and that's why I'll be voting for him.



Look, I found some trash on Mike Huckabee the other day. If you dig long enough you will find dirt. There are issues far more important this election cycle then "who gets support from racists". If THAT is what you base, who you vote for....its kinda sad. Seeing the nation is headed to hell in a hand basket. :roll:

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:51 am
by radiojake
jay_a2j wrote: If THAT is what you base, who you vote for....its kinda sad. Seeing the nation is headed to hell in a hand basket. :roll:



Not enough white middle class christian's around for you, jay? THE WORLD MUST BE GOING TO HELL!

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:52 am
by jay_a2j
radiojake wrote:
jay_a2j wrote: If THAT is what you base, who you vote for....its kinda sad. Seeing the nation is headed to hell in a hand basket. :roll:



Not enough white middle class christian's around for you, jay? THE WORLD MUST BE GOING TO HELL!



Some of us understand what illegal immigration is doing to this nation and it has NOTHING to do with "color of skin". :roll:

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:02 am
by heavycola
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Look into what Ron Paul advocates, then judge him.


Stormfront sure did! And they liked him so much, they gave him a load of cash!


No other candidate has been publically endorsed - or funded - by a white supremacist group. That speaks volumes about Ron Paul, and that's why I'll be voting for him.



Look, I found some trash on Mike Huckabee the other day. If you dig long enough you will find dirt. There are issues far more important this election cycle then "who gets support from racists". If THAT is what you base, who you vote for....its kinda sad. Seeing the nation is headed to hell in a hand basket. :roll:


haha you are such a hypocrite. 'if THAT is what you base who you vote for...'

He accepted donations from a white supremacist organisation. Therefore, Ron Paul tacitly endorses white supremacists. That is, i would say, siginificant.

Question, jay: Would you accept a campaign donation from Aryan Nation?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:13 am
by Dancing Mustard
jay_a2j wrote:Some of us understand what illegal immigration is doing to this nation and it has NOTHING to do with "color of skin". :roll:
Next time you quote from the Stormfront Manifesto I think you should be honest and acknowledge your source.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:19 am
by jay_a2j
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:
Question, jay: Would you accept a campaign donation from Aryan Nation?



If I were running for president I would accept donations from ANY American. From those who are pro-choice, gay/lesbian, liberal/conservative, Jehova's witnesses/ Muslims. I don't have to agree with YOUR stances to accept your support. :wink:

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:26 am
by Dancing Mustard
So you'd accept donations from convicted racist drug-dealing schoolgirl rapists who also worshipped satan?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:28 am
by comic boy
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:
Question, jay: Would you accept a campaign donation from Aryan Nation?



If I were running for president I would accept donations from ANY American. From those who are pro-choice, gay/lesbian, liberal/conservative, Jehova's witnesses/ Muslims. I don't have to agree with YOUR stances to accept your support. :wink:


Sadly Jay you have pinpointed the crucial reason why US politics is in such a mess, to run for anything you need a bucket full of money . Take the cash and you owe the favour and some of the people donating should not be recieving favours, its a recipe for nepotism and corruption. All you got to do is give every candidate a maximum campaign spend and you might just find that you get far more able people elected.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:33 am
by jay_a2j
Dancing Mustard wrote:So you'd accept donations from convicted racist drug-dealing schoolgirl rapists who also worshipped satan?



yes, the only thing I would require for a person to support me is that they like where I stand on the issues. It would be about ME not them.


On a side note, there is no doubt that I could find something ON EVERYONE running that I do not like. (I don't like Paul's stance on legalizing drugs for example)

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:37 am
by heavycola
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:
Question, jay: Would you accept a campaign donation from Aryan Nation?



If I were running for president I would accept donations from ANY American. From those who are pro-choice, gay/lesbian, liberal/conservative, Jehova's witnesses/ Muslims. I don't have to agree with YOUR stances to accept your support. :wink:


not individuals, organisations.
So would you accept a contribution from NAMBLA?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:52 am
by jay_a2j
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:
Question, jay: Would you accept a campaign donation from Aryan Nation?



If I were running for president I would accept donations from ANY American. From those who are pro-choice, gay/lesbian, liberal/conservative, Jehova's witnesses/ Muslims. I don't have to agree with YOUR stances to accept your support. :wink:


not individuals, organisations.
So would you accept a contribution from NAMBLA?



Me personally, would not accept donations from ANY special interests groups. (This is why I would never nor could succeed at running) This however, doesn't mean a candidate won't use whatever is available to get elected. I don't believe Ron Paul has plans of taking us back to the 1800's. If you do, then vote for Hillary. :roll:

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:30 pm
by vtmarik
jay_a2j wrote:Some of us understand what illegal immigration is doing to this nation and it has NOTHING to do with "color of skin". :roll:


I know a great way to end illegal immigration in this country.

All of the illegal aliens should come together, draft a constitution, and declare themselves a new nation right on top of the one that's already there. Then they won't be illegal immigrants because they'll be in their own country.

It worked for us!

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:39 pm
by Guiscard
vtmarik wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Some of us understand what illegal immigration is doing to this nation and it has NOTHING to do with "color of skin". :roll:


I know a great way to end illegal immigration in this country.

All of the illegal aliens should come together, draft a constitution, and declare themselves a new nation right on top of the one that's already there. Then they won't be illegal immigrants because they'll be in their own country.

It worked for us!


=D> =D> =D> =D>

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:41 pm
by heavycola
vtmarik wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Some of us understand what illegal immigration is doing to this nation and it has NOTHING to do with "color of skin". :roll:


I know a great way to end illegal immigration in this country.

All of the illegal aliens should come together, draft a constitution, and declare themselves a new nation right on top of the one that's already there. Then they won't be illegal immigrants because they'll be in their own country.

It worked for us!


A brilliant idea! And we all LOVE constitutions! vtmarik for prez!

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:42 pm
by Snorri1234
There is at least one candidate who has no support from white supremacists.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:42 pm
by got tonkaed
Snorri1234 wrote:There is at least one candidate who has no support from white supremacists.


touche....

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:09 pm
by suggs
he's still a fascist wanker, right?