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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:48 am
by Nephilim
lol at all this......i have to disagree w/ meggy: the definition centers around gold, bling, street fashions....you know, imitations of black culture. they may be "trashy" in some sense, but like someone said, track suits are part of the equation here. not a lot of white/trailer trash wearing those in my experience.
i'd call them greyboys.....it's a little less offensive than wigger, and a little more encoded.
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:00 am
by Guiscard
Nephilim wrote:lol at all this......i have to disagree w/ meggy: the definition centers around gold, bling, street fashions....you know, imitations of black culture. they may be "trashy" in some sense, but like someone said, track suits are part of the equation here. not a lot of white/trailer trash wearing those in my experience.
i'd call them greyboys.....it's a little less offensive than wigger, and a little more encoded.
Nope... it really doesn't focus on imitation of black culture. You get some farily ingrained racism in those considered 'Chavs'. Generally, it is a section of the working class population who wear sportswear, are loud, uncouth and often violent. The general trashiness is the key.
You get enough 'wiggas' from middle class backgrounds. Its not really a Chav thing by any stretch. Types of electronic music, for example Drum n Bass or Hardcore, are just as likely to fit in with a Chav's musical tastes as mainstream commercial rap!
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:06 pm
by Nephilim
Simonov wrote:no, at least according to this definition:
Chav, Charv/Charver (male) and Chavette (female) ('ch' pronounced as in chair) are mainly derogatory slang terms in the United Kingdom for a subcultural stereotype fixated on fashions derived from American Hip-hop such as gold jewellery and designer clothing, combined with elements of working class British street fashion
ah, gotcha guiscard. i was following the above definition, but i'm sure you are more informed than wikipedia (or whatever) on the matter. apologies to meggy....i don't know what a chav is, so only going on what is see here.....
but w/ all this in mind, i'd say there isn't a true parallel in the states. we have white trash, but the rural/southern/country thing is a different dynamic. and i imagine our greyboys are different too.....
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:08 pm
by btownmeggy
Where I was first introduced to the concept of the chav:
http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2005 ... ing-p1.php
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:14 pm
by Kaplowitz
muy_thaiguy wrote:static_ice wrote:muy_thaiguy wrote:static_ice wrote::lol: offended? [size=0]...whitey[/size]
[size=0]jk[/size]
No, but it just bugs me that people pretend to be something they are not.
yeah of course, and asians can't be dumb and all mexicans duck when they hear a police siren

blacks are natural athletes, Jews are great with money. (Though I have yet to personally meet a stupid Asian. They are always taking the advanced courses where I live.)(Also, I have some Mexican friends that were born in the US, but glorify the whole Mexican stereotype, though not the one you have).

There is a kid in my school known as "The Stupid Asian".
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:15 pm
by Arbustos
muy_thaiguy wrote:static_ice wrote:muy_thaiguy wrote:static_ice wrote::lol: offended? [size=0]...whitey[/size]
[size=0]jk[/size]
No, but it just bugs me that people pretend to be something they are not.
yeah of course, and asians can't be dumb and all mexicans duck when they hear a police siren

blacks are natural athletes, Jews are great with money. (
Though I have yet to personally meet a stupid Asian. They are always taking the advanced courses where I live.)(Also, I have some Mexican friends that were born in the US, but glorify the whole Mexican stereotype, though not the one you have).

You know it

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:18 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Arbustos wrote:muy_thaiguy wrote:static_ice wrote:muy_thaiguy wrote:static_ice wrote::lol: offended? [size=0]...whitey[/size]
[size=0]jk[/size]
No, but it just bugs me that people pretend to be something they are not.
yeah of course, and asians can't be dumb and all mexicans duck when they hear a police siren

blacks are natural athletes, Jews are great with money. (
Though I have yet to personally meet a stupid Asian. They are always taking the advanced courses where I live.)(Also, I have some Mexican friends that were born in the US, but glorify the whole Mexican stereotype, though not the one you have).

You know it

Though I have heard tales of stupid Asians...
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:27 pm
by btownmeggy
muy_thaiguy wrote:Though I have heard tales of stupid Asians...
You guys just don't know enough Asians. I know a plethora of Asian 'tards.
But I have a cute story about a smart Asian. A couple of months ago, the New York Times wedding announcement section included the betrothal of two professors at Columbia Medical School or something of the sort. The bridegroom was the son of old New York financiers, grandson of the Honorable whoever of Somewhere, Connecticut. But the bride, THE BRIDE, was the daughter of restauranteurs (Chinese restaurant owners!!) of El Dorado, Arkansas (the boonies, FOR SURE!). I was so immensely proud. It was certainly the first time that someone from El Dorado, Arkansas (very close to where I grew up) was in the New York Times society pages!, and I was glad that it should be someone apparently smart and hardworking and industrious.
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:49 pm
by Arbustos
btownmeggy wrote:muy_thaiguy wrote:Though I have heard tales of stupid Asians...
You guys just don't know enough Asians. I know a plethora of Asian 'tards.But I have a cute story about a smart Asian. A couple of months ago, the New York Times wedding announcement section included the betrothal of two professors at Columbia Medical School or something of the sort. The bridegroom was the son of old New York financiers, grandson of the Honorable whoever of Somewhere, Connecticut. But the bride, THE BRIDE, was the daughter of restauranteurs (Chinese restaurant owners!!) of El Dorado, Arkansas (the boonies, FOR SURE!). I was so immensely proud. It was certainly the first time that someone from El Dorado, Arkansas (very close to where I grew up) was in the New York Times society pages!, and I was glad that it should be someone apparently smart and hardworking and industrious.
Lies!
No, I know some real idiots, too
El Dorado, eh? Where did you grow up?
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:04 pm
by static_ice
btownmeggy wrote:muy_thaiguy wrote:Though I have heard tales of stupid Asians...
You guys just don't know enough Asians. I know a plethora of Asian 'tards.
actually 95% of the kids at my church are at least half-asian and... hmm actually there are a couple of dumbasses but those are only the half breeds (

) all the full asians I know are in fact pretty intelligent.
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:05 pm
by freezie
You mean the kids who do drugs? Dont go to school?
Basicly, losers?
Yea..All over the world. ESPECIALLY in America.
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:07 pm
by Dancing Mustard
Does America have chavs?
America has B.K.Barunt.
So yes. America does have chavs.
There, uncle Mustard answers all your questions for you again. Genuflect.
Right now.
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:17 pm
by Arbustos
El Dorado actually has quite a few Asians... pretty smart kids
*this is not an attempted hijack*
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:29 pm
by steve-O
there called wiggers
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:30 pm
by Arbustos
steve-O wrote:there called wiggers
Fastposted by about 19 hours

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:44 pm
by Nephilim
now that is some good stuff right there
definitely white trash at it's finest, the only elements of hip hop culture i saw were the bride's cornrows (she looked really mannish) and the grooms little douchey braids.....classic
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:21 pm
by Strider24
You can asways tell who is a chav or chavette at school.
1) They wear there trousers around there arse and just have their belt really tight.
2) There collars are always up rather then bent over like normal people.
3) They almost always have string bags with a nike logo or adidas, and if not it is either a pink bag or bag with graffiti all over it obviously made from nike etc.
4) And they speak in ther own language e.g. Bbbbbbbbbrrrrrrrrrrrrrruupp(t), ain'it init, blood etc
5) And there the people that think a Polygon is a a type of parrot, whales and dolphins are fish and usually have an IQ of -24 or below.
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:38 pm
by btownmeggy
Arbustos wrote:El Dorado, eh? Where did you grow up?
A small town a ways outside of Texarkana, so obscure and unworthy that even real hick experts haven't heard of it, accessible only via FMs.
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:09 am
by mybike_yourface
we have are own versions. think of the size of the US compared to Brittian then imagine a different american version in every state, or maybe even every city. i think the chav prototype was invented here. you coppied us. think Jay of Jay and Silent Bob. that type of fool seems to be a perenial here no matter what state you're in.
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:13 am
by mybike_yourface
steve-O wrote:there called wiggers
i thinkthe socialology involved is more complicated than that. think of guido's for instance.
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:00 am
by mr. incrediball
wow, i thought chavs were our nation's great acheivment, and now it turns out america has all the rights to them as well

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:07 am
by mybike_yourface
mr. incrediball wrote:wow, i thought chavs were our nation's great acheivment, and now it turns out america has all the rights to them as well

hey, chavs are all yours. we just have our own version. if only we could have them fight each other...
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:26 am
by Fircoal
yes they are called my schoolmates.
Not it's not that bad, but a lot of the people from the ghetto town above us are. >.< How much I hate that city.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:39 am
by Balsiefen
mybike_yourface wrote:mr. incrediball wrote:wow, i thought chavs were our nation's great acheivment, and now it turns out america has all the rights to them as well

hey, chavs are all yours. we just have our own version. if only we could have them fight each other...
Yes! wipe out the population on both sides of the atlantic!

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:01 am
by heavycola
Has no one mentioned xtratabasco? He is the answer you seek.