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Re: Trump Indictment = Prelude to Rubicon?
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:28 am
by Dukasaur
KoolBak wrote:Dukasaur wrote:
A whore is a whore, no doubt. But I'd rather hang out with a whore than a thief, any day.
Can you document the whores you hang out with, just for curiosity's sake?
I assume you don't want to hear about the whores who's services I've required; only those I've hung out with in the platonic sense. There have been three, but I'll just give you one brief story to avoid boring anyone.
In '79 when I hitchhiked to California, I stayed for a while at this house in Tustin. Kind of a cross between a commune and a boarding house. Different people negotiated different terms for staying there. It had been a pretty rough trip thus far, and I needed to sit and lick my wounds for a while, so I stayed for three weeks.
I was 16 and they consigned me to the children's quarters. Which was a pisser. You know how it is when you're 16. You think of yourself as an adult; everyone else thinks of you as a child, and it's always a bone of contention.
Anyway, there were two other boys in the children's quarters. Actual children, like 8 and 11 or something. Turned out their mother was a hooker. An actual fully-accredited hooker (had been to jail for turning tricks.) Anyway, she asked me to watch over them when she was out of the house. Sometimes she paid me in cash, other times in weed or champagne. Never in sex.
We got to the point where she'd invite me back to her room after we put her kids to bed. We'd smoke a bit of weed and listen to Pink Floyd. She was big on Pink Floyd. She still wouldn't f*ck me, though. I guess she thought I was an innocent. I for sure wasn't, but everyone has their own standards. Which was weird when you think about it. She didn't think I was too young to supply weed and booze to, but she thought I was too young to f*ck. But yeah, we had some pleasant evenings getting buzzed and grooving out to Pink Floyd.
Re: Trump Indictment = Prelude to Rubicon?
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:09 am
by KoolBak
Ha! Great story. I was also 16 in '79...had dropped outta my terrible high school where my acquaintances kept dropping dead / getting killed. Had a great job I rode my dirt bike to every day,,,a farmer's daughter along the way who didn't think I was too innocent.....and was going to local community college.
Did you go through Oregon? Coulda hung with me....I know how much you enjoy gun toting rednecks
PS....picking up a new gun tonight. This is much more important news than all this political hoohaw.
Re: Trump Indictment = Prelude to Rubicon?
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:10 am
by jimboston
Good story.
If you pressed she probably could’ve turned you on to a younger “lady of the night”.
Course it would’ve cost you.
I’m sure if you were just some 16yo on the street with some cash she would’ve fucked you.
Pro had more to do with you looking out for her kids, and having sex was crossing some line
she had between business/social relationship.
Re: Trump Indictment = Prelude to Rubicon?
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 12:41 pm
by BoganGod
jimboston wrote:After Caesar it wasn’t guaranteed that the Empire would continue as an Empire.
It had a reasonable chance to revert back to a Republic.
It only solidified as an Empire primarily because Augustus took over after Caesar…
and he held the ‘position’ for over 30 years! Solidifying the power and form of Gov’t.
Even then after Augustus there was a smaller chance of reversion… but power fell to
Tiberius who held it for 20+ years. Tiberius was NOT a natural son of Augustus but
“adopted” as an adult, basically to ensure a peaceful transfer of power.
just as Augustus was not a natural son of Julius, it was very common in patrician roman families to adopt heirs if a branch of a noble family didn't have a son. The adopted son was treated exactly as a natural son. There was no prejudice or shame in adoption. It was easier to adopt than enoble a bastard.
Had their been a shorter reign for Augustus, or a series of bad / short lived Emperors
immediately following Caesar, it’s quite possible the Senate would’ve returned in
some form.
Wishful thinking, faulty thinking even, the senate had become such a degenerate place riven with partisan tit for tat hate that it was no longer in anyway a trustworthy nor viable institution.
I don’t disagree with Duk (or even JP4) that Trump is a criminal… but I’m not convinced
this particular ‘crime’ at this specific time will actually get him a prison sentence.
This is literally a trumped up charge, the orange monster is many things, but not guilty of obvious and stupid non crimes. A partisan prosecutor that has downgraded some many major felonies into misdemeanors, now upgrading out of statute of limitations misdemeanors that the federal system refused to prosecute into felonies is an obvious over reach from a bought and paid for hack
I’m curious what we all think the aftermath of this prosecution will lead to.
A republican win in the upcoming presidential election, followed by a prosecution with an actual guilty verdict of multiple members of the biden crime family, and possibly of the leader of the Clinton death squad.
- Riots?
- a failed prosecution and a boost for Trump in the polls?
- will it get him enough juice and money to secure a General Election win… or just enough to get him the Republican nomination… or neither?
- will it encourage or discourage Ron Desantis for jumping in, or holding off till till 2028?
- trump in Jail?
Re: Trump Indictment = Prelude to Rubicon?
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:03 pm
by GaryDenton
https://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/in ... 4515139641
Trump is a very stupid man. Watch him being interviewed. His conservative hosts on this and other interviews have to keep jumping in to stop him from admitting to more crimes.
Of all the indictments coming, this is the most minor and has multiple legal weaknesses. He is still guilty as sin and should have been prosecuted for it long ago.
Re: Trump Indictment = Prelude to Rubicon?
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:57 pm
by jimboston
GaryDenton wrote:https://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/in ... 4515139641
Trump is a very stupid man. Watch him being interviewed. His conservative hosts on this and other interviews have to keep jumping in to stop him from admitting to more crimes.
Of all the indictments coming, this is the most minor and has multiple legal weaknesses. He is still guilty as sin and should have been prosecuted for it long ago.
He’s not a “very stupid man”.
He’s a master manipulator, and you have to be at least somewhat smart to have the ability to manage people the way he has.
He’s certainly blind to his own weaknesses, and sometimes his mouth (which can be a strength) is also a weakness.
That said I agree he’s and ass and a criminal.
Would I say that if I was in the “Fox Bag”, and only getting my news from the Rigth?
Re: Trump Indictment = Prelude to Rubicon?
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:03 pm
by GaryDenton
No, you only have a specific transphobia. On most subjects, you are quite rational.
Re: Trump Indictment = Prelude to Rubicon?
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:17 am
by jimboston
GaryDenton wrote:No, you only have a specific transphobia. On most subjects, you are quite rational.
If I had a “phobia” of Transpeople I would be afraid of speaking out against them in any way.
I’m a
transrationalist… or perhaps you can call me a
transfactualist.
Calling me a transphobe or saying I have transphobia just demonstrates that you don’t understand the meaning of the suffix “phobia”.
Also… you ignored the point… the point where (in the other thread) you claimed that I must be only getting my news from Fox or some equally Rightwing Biased source. Do you still suggest this is the case?
See I get my news from both of the biased sides… because there is no truly unbiased news.
Frankly there never has been unbiased news… the only difference now is that some outlets are more extreme in the bias.
If you look back to the early days of news they were all biased and unrepentantly so.
Re: Trump Indictment = Prelude to Rubicon?
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:01 pm
by GaryDenton
Both sides of the news.
Actually has more right sources than liberal.
MEMEORANDUM
https://www.memeorandum.com/
I set my preferences to - Open Links in New Window -- Show Discussion Excerpts
Re: Trump Indictment = Prelude to Rubicon?
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:00 am
by jimboston
GaryDenton wrote:Both sides of the news.
Actually has more right sources than liberal.
MEMEORANDUM
https://www.memeorandum.com/
I set my preferences to - Open Links in New Window -- Show Discussion Excerpts
It just aggregates news from other sources… does using this bypass paywalls on those sites?
… I check, it doesn’t.
… edit number 2… most of the sources on that front page are Left Leaning.
No Fox no Daily Wire
Doesn;t seem like that site offers view from all sides… not even close.
Re: Trump Indictment = Prelude to Rubicon?
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:52 pm
by GaryDenton
I may have to go through their sources again soon but the last time I did there was more that were Right.
I use Ad Fontes, the other major rater of media bias, All Sides, has a center-Right lean.
https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/m ... as-charts/
Re: Trump Indictment = Prelude to Rubicon?
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:55 pm
by GaryDenton
You can see the bias of 'All Sides' by seeing where they place Real Clear Politics. This has been pointed out to them and they responded by saying they checked again and it remained Centrist.