Conquer Club

riskllama wrote:lol, game throwing? really, ES???

Nut Shot Scott wrote:lmao

riskllama wrote:um, how about this? why would someone toss a game to their opponent & then report said opponent for holding them hostage? makes absolutely no sense to me... .

Evil Semp wrote:Making no attempt to win the game doesn't mean anything to you?

Jdsizzleslice wrote:

b00060 wrote:That is bullshit absolute bullshit Semp. Go back and look at the logs, I had nowhere to attack and he had a bonus after round one. If you are going to site me for throwing the game, go back at the logs and tell me exactly how I could have done anything different. He had a juge stack against my territories from round one and I could not attack at ALL. For you to say i threw the game is complete bullshit. He had a stack of 60 to take out 4 territories of singles and drug it out. Complete bullshit finding Semp, complete bullshit!

Let's break down the ruling. Keep in mind that no WARNINGS were issued, but two NOTES were given.

1. Holding Hostage generally happens with a very long round count of the game being unable to end when it should have been. I had a previous ruling where the accused was banned for one month in the end for holding me hostage for 35 rounds in a 50 round game. A game that completed with 10 rounds hardly constitutes holding someone hostage, unless they got dropped all territories except for the one that you were on on Round 1 (which can't happen). You stopped taking territories after round 8, so there are only 2 rounds until the game ended that you were not able to make a valid attack. You have a strong argument that cod is a dick but besides that nothing else.

2. Game throwing generally happens when a player makes no attempt to actually play the game. In the game mentioned in this report, you never once attacked the other player (according to the game log). You, on multiple occasions, took the Resetting Neutrals and deployed on adjacent territories to them. You can make an argument that it was tactical to have these resetting neutrals in the game but you can also make the argument that you never attempted to actually play the game.

Again, no warnings were given. So there is really no need to freak out here. Just take this as a learning lesson and apply that to further encounters you have in the future.

I hope this clarifies the ruling.

Jd

Extreme Ways wrote:

Jdsizzleslice wrote:

b00060 wrote:That is bullshit absolute bullshit Semp. Go back and look at the logs, I had nowhere to attack and he had a bonus after round one. If you are going to site me for throwing the game, go back at the logs and tell me exactly how I could have done anything different. He had a juge stack against my territories from round one and I could not attack at ALL. For you to say i threw the game is complete bullshit. He had a stack of 60 to take out 4 territories of singles and drug it out. Complete bullshit finding Semp, complete bullshit!

Let's break down the ruling. Keep in mind that no WARNINGS were issued, but two NOTES were given.

1. Holding Hostage generally happens with a very long round count of the game being unable to end when it should have been. I had a previous ruling where the accused was banned for one month in the end for holding me hostage for 35 rounds in a 50 round game. A game that completed with 10 rounds hardly constitutes holding someone hostage, unless they got dropped all territories except for the one that you were on on Round 1 (which can't happen). You stopped taking territories after round 8, so there are only 2 rounds until the game ended that you were not able to make a valid attack. You have a strong argument that cod is a dick but besides that nothing else.

2. Game throwing generally happens when a player makes no attempt to actually play the game. In the game mentioned in this report, you never once attacked the other player (according to the game log). You, on multiple occasions, took the Resetting Neutrals and deployed on adjacent territories to them. You can make an argument that it was tactical to have these resetting neutrals in the game but you can also make the argument that you never attempted to actually play the game.

Again, no warnings were given. So there is really no need to freak out here. Just take this as a learning lesson and apply that to further encounters you have in the future.

I hope this clarifies the ruling.

Jd

Without taking anything away from your explanation, the log doesn't show attacks it just shows a change of ownership of a territory.

Imo both players are pricks