Conquer Club

Iron Butterfly wrote:

DoomYoshi wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:If we have 24 hours that gives us till 11 pm est tommorow.

Exactly, which means not voting is the same as voting for a no lynch or stalling.

unvote vote IB

I can't tell if pcm was joking or not. Doesn't seem like a blatant BW to me though.

or it means a tad more info other then voting blindly.

Why would you assume a no lynch? Splitting the votes is worse as NOW we have 4 people and most importantly, just because we have 24 hours doent mean we should vote for the sake of voting as you seem in such a hurry to do.

THAT is scummy.

IB my vote is on your because we have 24 hrs to try and get info. Always everyone waits until the last minute to decide on something and then speed lynches someone with little or no info. You seemed to be delaying the game.

SMOOCH NEB that was an obvious attempt to kiss IB's arse why?

jgordon1111 wrote:I think he was just responding to your FOS suggestion with humor.

Yes, that.

Nebuchadnezer wrote:

jgordon1111 wrote:

DoomYoshi wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:If we have 24 hours that gives us till 11 pm est tommorow.

Exactly, which means not voting is the same as voting for a no lynch or stalling.

unvote vote IB

I can't tell if pcm was joking or not. Doesn't seem like a blatant BW to me though.

I think he was just responding to your FOS suggestion with humor.

It was a good suggestion with such a short deadline.

With that in mind Unvote Vote IB For reminding us of the short deadline,but not trying for info from anyone.

VOTE Jgordon Really? NOT trying to get info? This is a trumped up charge...in fact, I think he got info, in that you are scummy for voting him for making a harmless post. I commend Iron on his stupendous trap he set!

Uh NEB the trap was set by Doom or do you not understand why he said FOS on anyone who doesnt vote? Trumped up charge,on D1 its always trumped up charges.

Buddying like that is usually a sure scum sign. Try to err on the side of caution ok.

jgordon1111 wrote:

Nebuchadnezer wrote:

jgordon1111 wrote:

DoomYoshi wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:If we have 24 hours that gives us till 11 pm est tommorow.

Exactly, which means not voting is the same as voting for a no lynch or stalling.

unvote vote IB

I can't tell if pcm was joking or not. Doesn't seem like a blatant BW to me though.

I think he was just responding to your FOS suggestion with humor.

It was a good suggestion with such a short deadline.

With that in mind Unvote Vote IB For reminding us of the short deadline,but not trying for info from anyone.

VOTE Jgordon Really? NOT trying to get info? This is a trumped up charge...in fact, I think he got info, in that you are scummy for voting him for making a harmless post. I commend Iron on his stupendous trap he set!

Uh NEB the trap was set by Doom or do you not understand why he said FOS on anyone who doesnt vote? Trumped up charge,on D1 its always trumped up charges.

Buddying like that is usually a sure scum sign. Try to err on the side of caution ok.

If I was mafia, I would be cautious...the funny thing is, if I had voted Iron, then you'd have come out and said I was bandwagoning...

Okay, logging out for the night...be back in the morning.

jgordon1111 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

DoomYoshi wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:If we have 24 hours that gives us till 11 pm est tommorow.

Exactly, which means not voting is the same as voting for a no lynch or stalling.

unvote vote IB

I can't tell if pcm was joking or not. Doesn't seem like a blatant BW to me though.

or it means a tad more info other then voting blindly.

Why would you assume a no lynch? Splitting the votes is worse as NOW we have 4 people and most importantly, just because we have 24 hours doent mean we should vote for the sake of voting as you seem in such a hurry to do.

THAT is scummy.

IB my vote is on your because we have 24 hrs to try and get info. Always everyone waits until the last minute to decide on something and then speed lynches someone with little or no info. You seemed to be delaying the game.

SMOOCH NEB that was an obvious attempt to kiss IB's arse why?

So what information do you have other then Im not ready to vote yet? Because I have not voted in the first two hours but have been active makes me scummy how???

As of the time I voted you, all you did so far in game was stating the obvious. Thanks for letting us know about the deadline. Since then, you have been active, but we had no way to predict that. Not taking a stance is scummy. Being afraid to stick out your neck is scummy. Making your first post of the day a pointless one-liner is scummy.

Your post-first-post behaviour has increased. However, I promised to fos players who did not vote. I fos'ed you and furthermore decided it would warrant a vote since it was pretty blatant non-contribution. If my vote wasn't on you right now, it would have to be on myself for lying. Other non-voters beware though.

I am really tired now, if that last post doesn't make sense I will explain in the morning.

wowshit. that started fast. sorry i was asleep, and all my stuff is being put in a container today.

Im not even going to respond to the case on me, since it was a joke vote and a (joke) BW.

I will, however, keep an eye on Doom, PCM, and IB. I think that for now, my vote goes on Doom for attempting to start cases out of nothing, on two separate people. i do understand the need to pressure and build cases D1, but just vote jumping and making stuff up until something sticks is not the way to find mafia. vote doom.

Happy days I got FOSed for sleeping. I will try to stay awake from now till the game finishes

Vote Jak

dazza2008 wrote:Happy days I got FOSed for sleeping. I will try to stay awake from now till the game finishes

Vote Jak

uhhhh... why? do you wanna state a case? or just vote random people?did random.org help you decide who to vote? FOS dazza.

vodean wrote:

dazza2008 wrote:Happy days I got FOSed for sleeping. I will try to stay awake from now till the game finishes

Vote Jak

uhhhh... why? do you wanna state a case? or just vote random people?did random.org help you decide who to vote? FOS dazza.

I just picked someone I don't like playing with.

Do you seriously expect a mega serious case this early? What is there to go on especially with such a short deadline.

DoomYoshi wrote:As of the time I voted you, all you did so far in game was stating the obvious. Thanks for letting us know about the deadline. Since then, you have been active, but we had no way to predict that. Not taking a stance is scummy. Being afraid to stick out your neck is scummy. Making your first post of the day a pointless one-liner is scummy.

Your post-first-post behaviour has increased. However, I promised to fos players who did not vote. I fos'ed you and furthermore decided it would warrant a vote since it was pretty blatant non-contribution. If my vote wasn't on you right now, it would have to be on myself for lying. Other non-voters beware though.

You can not take a stance if there is nothing to take a stance on. The only thing anyone can do is random vote within such a short time as two hours. Because you made the rule does not mean it is a sound one.

I have never had a problem sticking my neck out for a logical and just reason. You are telling me to stick my neck out to cast a vote that has no logical reasoning other then to recognize that it is random.

I will need to leave for work by 4pm. I will have voted by then.

dazza2008 wrote:

vodean wrote:

dazza2008 wrote:Happy days I got FOSed for sleeping. I will try to stay awake from now till the game finishes

Vote Jak

uhhhh... why? do you wanna state a case? or just vote random people?did random.org help you decide who to vote? FOS dazza.

I just picked someone I don't like playing with.

Do you seriously expect a mega serious case this early? What is there to go on especially with such a short deadline.

Well where do you expect cases to come from? In your first post you complain about getting FOS'd for virtually nothing and then you proceed to vote someone for actually nothing. If you don't give a reason for a vote then you may as well not vote at all. Those double standards do not sit well with me. unvote vote daz

vodean wrote: I think that for now, my vote goes on Doom for attempting to start cases out of nothing, on two separate people.

With a one day deadline, that sounds like a good thing. Unless you are suggesting he was trying to be the alpha townie and lead the town astray which I can kind of see but I don't think you were suggesting that.

Did I complain or did I think it was funny? I posted within 10 minutes of waking up. There is nothing to make a case on so I voted someone. With only 24 hours there is not time to f*ck about we just need to act quick.

dazza2008 wrote:Did I complain or did I think it was funny? I posted within 10 minutes of waking up. There is nothing to make a case on so I voted someone. With only 24 hours there is not time to f*ck about we just need to act quick.

+1 this game is going to move fast,and already we are all over the place with votes.

I dont usually agree with Doom on anything,but in this instance the FOS on anyone not voting was the only way to make the game move at a pace that could get us anywhere before the deadline.

So lets try something new and unusual,with the time we have left,lets play together and come up with a plan or something before deadline. We may have already went to far along to pressure anyone at this point,that would give them time to properly defend themselves.

My vote was placed on IB in an attempt to get info out of him in a short period of time, the reason I placed my vote on him is basically the same as Doom's. IB is one of the better players and knows that this game will require info fast and to have attempted to put the game into the normal slow moving routine popped out as strange to me.

Second strange thing was NEB's attempt to buddy with him and IB is distancing himself from it by not acknowledging it one way or the other. Buddying is generaly considered scum tell and under most circumstances I think IB would have been all over him for it, Yet he isnt.

So yes I +1 dazza agreeing we need to move and am agreeing with Doom as well

Well, without vote counts, it's hard to see who's been voted, and what stands at where. In an effort to consolidate votes...Unvote JGORDON...I think I was the only one on him.

Instead, I'll go along with the Doom vote, for reasons previously stated by others. No, I am not bandwagonning because I am scum. I am putting town effort into one vote, in hopes of getting some information, and because Doom does come across as being a little "off." Being that this is a quick game, I'll be on and off most of today, in case I need to unvote after a claim.

dazza2008 wrote:Did I complain or did I think it was funny? I posted within 10 minutes of waking up. There is nothing to make a case on so I voted someone. With only 24 hours there is not time to f*ck about we just need to act quick.

The only people who can act quickly are those who are mafia as they already know who to choose, which is why with that statement....

Vote Dazza

Nebuchadnezer wrote:Well, without vote counts, it's hard to see who's been voted, and what stands at where. In an effort to consolidate votes...Unvote JGORDON...I think I was the only one on him.

Instead, I'll go along with the Doom vote, for reasons previously stated by others. No, I am not bandwagonning because I am scum. I am putting town effort into one vote, in hopes of getting some information, and because Doom does come across as being a little "off." Being that this is a quick game, I'll be on and off most of today, in case I need to unvote after a claim.

oops...never actually voted here...but I'm changing my mind. Jak111 only has 2 posts. I'm going to vote him to see if he'll come in here and talk.

Vote Jak111

pmchugh wrote:

dazza2008 wrote:

vodean wrote:

dazza2008 wrote:Happy days I got FOSed for sleeping. I will try to stay awake from now till the game finishes

Vote Jak

uhhhh... why? do you wanna state a case? or just vote random people?did random.org help you decide who to vote? FOS dazza.

I just picked someone I don't like playing with.

Do you seriously expect a mega serious case this early? What is there to go on especially with such a short deadline.

Well where do you expect cases to come from? In your first post you complain about getting FOS'd for virtually nothing and then you proceed to vote someone for actually nothing. If you don't give a reason for a vote then you may as well not vote at all. Those double standards do not sit well with me. unvote vote daz

vodean wrote: I think that for now, my vote goes on Doom for attempting to start cases out of nothing, on two separate people.

With a one day deadline, that sounds like a good thing. Unless you are suggesting he was trying to be the alpha townie and lead the town astray which I can kind of see but I don't think you were suggesting that.

actually thats exactly what i was saying.

hmmm... im going to log off for the night i think, and so I will leave my vote as it is, and bid you all good luck.

Nebuchadnezer wrote:

Nebuchadnezer wrote:Well, without vote counts, it's hard to see who's been voted, and what stands at where. In an effort to consolidate votes...Unvote JGORDON...I think I was the only one on him.

Instead, I'll go along with the Doom vote, for reasons previously stated by others. No, I am not bandwagonning because I am scum. I am putting town effort into one vote, in hopes of getting some information, and because Doom does come across as being a little "off." Being that this is a quick game, I'll be on and off most of today, in case I need to unvote after a claim.

oops...never actually voted here...but I'm changing my mind. Jak111 only has 2 posts. I'm going to vote him to see if he'll come in here and talk.

Vote Jak111

Yea I'm awake now. Technically I only have one post, after that was made I pulled an all nighter writing for this chapter for a site I'm uploading it to hopefully somewhere around the start of July. Pretty much passed out at the computer though. It's 1:30pm here and I literally just woke up not even 30 minutes ago o.e...

Anyway, my first vote doesn't really count because I forgot to colour/highlight it. But seeing as Dazza falls under Doom's pressure easily, voting at random without even a word (Sure you won't have much at this point, but even a simple sentence is better than nothing). Also for what IB pointed out, I also find that sentence odd even for Dazza's standards. We don't want to "f*ck about" Dazza, but we do need to be patient. If we rush lynch only because of a 1 day deadline, then we will find ourselves running out of townies quickly.

Vote Dazza
(^ Coloured it this time!!! lol)

We do need information Dazza, but I'm curious to what you have to bring to the table with such a hastily written piece of work.

Fastposted.

That's 3 votes by my count, which is L-2.

See? I stuck my neck out, and that alone was enough to generate a page of discussion. People always ask me: "how can we build a case out of nothing?". My answer has always been the same: "just watch me". Sure, maybe I am trying to play the role of alpha townie. Maybe I am trying to lead town astray. The point is that "wait and see" is a BS strategy at best. In this game, it is downright scummy.

The interesting thing about the dazza case is that it is primarily built on him doing exactly what I wanted people to do - place a vote and take a stance. However, since he included the contradiction (being cranky about a case on nothing, and then voting on nothing) I do support the case. It is time for dazza to claim.

unvote Clearly IB and I approach the game from different perspectives. While I disagree with him, I can still understand him and his case.

Being cranky? I just found it funny that I got a fos for being in bed. The start of games is always a case of voting for no reason so that is what I did.

Anyway I have to claim so I will.

Town overeager reviver. I must revive a player each night. I can revive 2 if I want so I am thinking there might be a few killing roles in the mix. So whoever we lynch I will have to revive as long as I don't get roleblocked I guess.

It is a role that will be tested I will prove it tonight.

dazza2008 wrote:Did I complain or did I think it was funny? I posted within 10 minutes of waking up. There is nothing to make a case on so I voted someone. With only 24 hours there is not time to f*ck about we just need to act quick.

You have a funny way of joking

dazza2008 wrote:Town overeager reviver. I must revive a player each night. I can revive 2 if I want so I am thinking there might be a few killing roles in the mix. So whoever we lynch I will have to revive as long as I don't get roleblocked I guess.

It is a role that will be tested I will prove it tonight.

This is a bizarre role. Why would it force you to revive? Wait.. that means that even if we lynch mafia then you will have to revive them. I propose that you lynch me today and revive me during the night. If I am not revived then you are lying, if I am then both of us are clear. Although if mafia can f*ck with actions this will fail, so it is very risky.


Also @jgordon you don't get it. Focusing on one player will go to shit when they are lynched or cleared, it just means you make the initial decision much sooner than we do on who to BW which means you do it on less information.

Well, that is an interesting role... I wonder what mafia has to offset it...crypt keeper?