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oVo wrote:I was gifted a bottle of Wild Turkey last night,
so I believe I'll have another drink.

BigBallinStalin wrote:Now I know what to do for my Atheist Christmas!
Thanks, TGD! Keep keeping it classy! <smile + two thumbs up while pointing>

Symmetry wrote:I am, I feel, not alone in worrying that that atheists forget the true meaning of Christmas-
Although I am an atheist, I'm also concerned that Christians sometimes forget the true meaning behind the Winter Solstice .
Mostly, however, this thread came from a simple question from a Christian friend of mine who wanted to know how I could celebrate Christmas as an atheist.
The thing is, of course, that he spends mosts of Christmas buying presents, cooking, eating, drinking, spending time with family...
basically all the same pagan stuff that happened this time of year before Christianity in the name of lost gods, and that I do now in the name of no god.
This is likely one of my nowhere threads, and I do like a bit of a ramble sometimes. But really, atheist Christmas is the best.
neanderpaul14 wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:
TGD, get serious. Bottles of scotch and an atheist orgy with a movie in the background with Chinese food on the side? You had me at "Wait."
Sadly I was raised sort of Christian-ish, so I am to this day forced to do the whole family thing for Christmas. I would so much rather attend a movie and an orgy, or a movie about an orgy, Chinese food is always good. I do however much prefer bourbon to scotch, but if my choice is between scotch and sober, well pass me the scotch.
2dimes wrote:I finally had one bourbon one scotch and one beer. It was good. I highly recommend quality specimens of each. I had buffalo trace, bowmore 18 year and by then the beer didn't matter so I had a Lethbridge Pilsner which oddly enough is now a lager.
2dimes wrote:Bow more is my favorite single malt currently. I have a nice new bottle of 15 year the darkest sherry cask finished.
2dimes wrote:I had one of those at my brother in law's didn't love it. Arboulor is pretty smooth. I'm going to have to crack that Bowmore in a minute.
2dimes wrote:Come on over. I'm using my free whiskey glass I got in a peated Irish taster set. Cheers and Seasons Greetings to everyone even the "Christians".
Symmetry wrote: But really, atheist Christmas is the best.




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Symmetry wrote:I am, I feel, not alone in worrying that that atheists forget the true meaning of Christmas-
Although I am an atheist, I'm also concerned that Christians sometimes forget the true meaning behind the Winter Solstice .
Mostly, however, this thread came from a simple question from a Christian friend of mine who wanted to know how I could celebrate Christmas as an atheist.
The thing is, of course, that he spends mosts of Christmas buying presents, cooking, eating, drinking, spending time with family...
basically all the same pagan stuff that happened this time of year before Christianity in the name of lost gods, and that I do now in the name of no god.
This is likely one of my nowhere threads, and I do like a bit of a ramble sometimes. But really, atheist Christmas is the best.
Ray Rider wrote:Symmetry wrote: But really, atheist Christmas is the best.
Oxymoron much?
Definition of CHRISTMAS
1: a Christian feast on December 25 or among some Eastern Orthodox Christians on January 7 that commemorates the birth of Christ and is usually observed as a legal holiday
It's like saying, "I'm going to celebrate Sym's birthday, but I'm going pretend he doesn't exist or was ever born," in which case it would no longer be Sym's birthday, or any birthday celebration at all, for that matter. You can celebrate anything anytime you want, but if you claim to be celebrating Christmas, then by the very definition of the word, you are celebrating Christ's birth.
As for me, I'm having an awesome time celebrating Christ's birth with family and friends, caroling from door-to-door, watching old movies, playing games, having some great snacks and drinks, and tomorrow we'll have our own small sing-along, sharing time from the Bible, and give each other gifts as we remember how God gave us the gift of His Son. That was the best gift of all, because He transformed my life and the lives of literally millions around the world for the better; not that He changed life around us to make it any easier for us, but He transformed us from the inside out, so now we can go about our lives with a new perspective and goal, that of following Jesus in doing the two greatest commandments: Love God, and love your neighbor as yourself. Mark 12:30-31
chang50 wrote:Ray Rider wrote:Symmetry wrote: But really, atheist Christmas is the best.
Oxymoron much?
Definition of CHRISTMAS
1: a Christian feast on December 25 or among some Eastern Orthodox Christians on January 7 that commemorates the birth of Christ and is usually observed as a legal holiday
It's like saying, "I'm going to celebrate Sym's birthday, but I'm going pretend he doesn't exist or was ever born," in which case it would no longer be Sym's birthday, or any birthday celebration at all, for that matter. You can celebrate anything anytime you want, but if you claim to be celebrating Christmas, then by the very definition of the word, you are celebrating Christ's birth.
As for me, I'm having an awesome time celebrating Christ's birth with family and friends, caroling from door-to-door, watching old movies, playing games, having some great snacks and drinks, and tomorrow we'll have our own small sing-along, sharing time from the Bible, and give each other gifts as we remember how God gave us the gift of His Son. That was the best gift of all, because He transformed my life and the lives of literally millions around the world for the better; not that He changed life around us to make it any easier for us, but He transformed us from the inside out, so now we can go about our lives with a new perspective and goal, that of following Jesus in doing the two greatest commandments: Love God, and love your neighbor as yourself. Mark 12:30-31
Actually it's not an oxymoron,you can still celebrate Christ's birthday and be an atheist,as I do,as long as you don't believe in his divinity..
AAFitz wrote:chang50 wrote:Ray Rider wrote:Symmetry wrote: But really, atheist Christmas is the best.
Oxymoron much?
Definition of CHRISTMAS
1: a Christian feast on December 25 or among some Eastern Orthodox Christians on January 7 that commemorates the birth of Christ and is usually observed as a legal holiday
It's like saying, "I'm going to celebrate Sym's birthday, but I'm going pretend he doesn't exist or was ever born," in which case it would no longer be Sym's birthday, or any birthday celebration at all, for that matter. You can celebrate anything anytime you want, but if you claim to be celebrating Christmas, then by the very definition of the word, you are celebrating Christ's birth.
As for me, I'm having an awesome time celebrating Christ's birth with family and friends, caroling from door-to-door, watching old movies, playing games, having some great snacks and drinks, and tomorrow we'll have our own small sing-along, sharing time from the Bible, and give each other gifts as we remember how God gave us the gift of His Son. That was the best gift of all, because He transformed my life and the lives of literally millions around the world for the better; not that He changed life around us to make it any easier for us, but He transformed us from the inside out, so now we can go about our lives with a new perspective and goal, that of following Jesus in doing the two greatest commandments: Love God, and love your neighbor as yourself. Mark 12:30-31
Actually it's not an oxymoron,you can still celebrate Christ's birthday and be an atheist,as I do,as long as you don't believe in his divinity..
You may very well live by those principles more stringently than most who profess to believe in His divinity...a point very often lost by those in their self-righteous belief and praise of a higher being.
The real irony of the situation is that as an atheist, you realize it is your responsibility to change the world and help its people, where as many a religious believer, simply leave it to their God, and in no uncertain path of logic, are obviously far less holy, than the atheists themselves. For no true Good God, a parent if you would, could ever truly reward thanks and praise, more than actual acts that help and make the lives of their children better and safer. Its an inherent truth, so obvious, that it is so obviously missed so often.
So again, I suggest, make the world better, regardless of your beliefs, and without a doubt, the act, will be reward in and of itself, and simply trust that with a creator, or without a creator, that if there is one....He truly would be Good, and none of the pettiness that religion has created over the centuries could ever transcend the true nature of Good.
chang50 wrote:AAFitz wrote:chang50 wrote:Ray Rider wrote:Symmetry wrote: But really, atheist Christmas is the best.
Oxymoron much?
Definition of CHRISTMAS
1: a Christian feast on December 25 or among some Eastern Orthodox Christians on January 7 that commemorates the birth of Christ and is usually observed as a legal holiday
It's like saying, "I'm going to celebrate Sym's birthday, but I'm going pretend he doesn't exist or was ever born," in which case it would no longer be Sym's birthday, or any birthday celebration at all, for that matter. You can celebrate anything anytime you want, but if you claim to be celebrating Christmas, then by the very definition of the word, you are celebrating Christ's birth.
As for me, I'm having an awesome time celebrating Christ's birth with family and friends, caroling from door-to-door, watching old movies, playing games, having some great snacks and drinks, and tomorrow we'll have our own small sing-along, sharing time from the Bible, and give each other gifts as we remember how God gave us the gift of His Son. That was the best gift of all, because He transformed my life and the lives of literally millions around the world for the better; not that He changed life around us to make it any easier for us, but He transformed us from the inside out, so now we can go about our lives with a new perspective and goal, that of following Jesus in doing the two greatest commandments: Love God, and love your neighbor as yourself. Mark 12:30-31
Actually it's not an oxymoron,you can still celebrate Christ's birthday and be an atheist,as I do,as long as you don't believe in his divinity..
You may very well live by those principles more stringently than most who profess to believe in His divinity...a point very often lost by those in their self-righteous belief and praise of a higher being.
The real irony of the situation is that as an atheist, you realize it is your responsibility to change the world and help its people, where as many a religious believer, simply leave it to their God, and in no uncertain path of logic, are obviously far less holy, than the atheists themselves. For no true Good God, a parent if you would, could ever truly reward thanks and praise, more than actual acts that help and make the lives of their children better and safer. Its an inherent truth, so obvious, that it is so obviously missed so often.
So again, I suggest, make the world better, regardless of your beliefs, and without a doubt, the act, will be reward in and of itself, and simply trust that with a creator, or without a creator, that if there is one....He truly would be Good, and none of the pettiness that religion has created over the centuries could ever transcend the true nature of Good.
Very well put,I believe in the historical Jesus,as a guru,and as a messianic apopalyctic preacher,if only more Christians tried to live truly Christian lives..
