Conquer Club

Fruitcake wrote:So exactly why was Owen given this ban?

Well, for the sake of openness let's take a look. he received an email stating:

Ahoy Owenshooter,

It looks like recently you've engaged in some specific trolling, RE your posts:
(the posts are quoted here for sake of brevity. Fc)

Re: *BpB Sig Contest/FREE PREMIUM*
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:49 am

owenshooter wrote:how original... team CC has a contest where you sport a sig with a partner, one premium one freemium (doubling the exposure of the sig)... and if you win the drawing the premium gets a medal and the freemium gets 3 months of premium. how can our rag tag clan give away a year, and cc can only manage 3 months? wow!!!-0

Re: [Free Premium] Share the Warmth Epidemic 2011
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:51 am

owenshooter wrote:wow... how is it that our rag tag clan can give away a free year premium to a freemium, and team CC can only manage 3 months? i applaud you for your efforts (i believe the bandits invented the sig contest concept on CC), but CC needs to step up in the prize dept. it looks bad when a bunch of forum renegades and kick ass players can muster together the funds to give away a year premium, and team cc gives away 3 months... you are better than this team CC!!!-0

p.s.-any freemium interested in a year, click on my sig...

Re: General Congratulations
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:54 am

owenshooter wrote:congrats to the CC entertainment team for copying the bandits with a sig contest and upping the anty with a whole 3 month premium for the winner... oh wait, we always give away a full year!!! way to go team CC!!!-0

Re: General Congratulations
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:06 am

owenshooter wrote:

Crazyirishman wrote:Congrats to the black jesus for forgetting that the CC team has done this for multiple years now, despite their yearning to mimic the BPB

Congrats to the CC entertainment team for making a contest that requires less effort/knowledge for the general populace.

PS- (your contest is still fun El Jesus Negro, nobody is trying to steal your thunder.)

congrats to the wee man for not knowing his CC history and that we have done this contest every year since cc's inception...-0

Re: General Congratulations
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:20 pm

owenshooter wrote:

AndyDufresne wrote:Congrats to the Entertainment Team and the Summer Bash.


--Andy

congrats to the summer bash starting almost 2 full months after the start of summer (june 21st)... and congrats to team CC for not ponying up more than 3 months of premium for a contest when clans and individuals have contests going now with a full premium for the prize... step it up CC, you are looking bad...-0

Re: [Free Premium] Share the Warmth Epidemic 2011
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:27 pm

owenshooter wrote:

samuelc812 wrote:For the record owen, we are giving away a total of 2 years and 3 months in this entire event. We can offer more people prizes by splitting up what we've got, so we can make more people happy. But then again i know i shouldn't be wasting my breath explaining this to you, since by your own admission to me you argue for the sake of argument.

~Sam

hey, all i'm saying is others are giving away a full year, so you kind of look cheap... and not to mention summer started 2 months ago... anyway, knock yourself out!!! have fun!!-0

Andy then goes on to say "I think it is safe to say the above posts, which occurred over a 16 hour span actually are objectively Trolling."...hmmm..are they Andy? I see just 3 independent posts from Owen. He then responded to 3 posts, 2 of which are your team (1 in fact yourself).

Are you or your team going to come back with a rational explanation as to why you chose to shut Owen up because he exercised his right to state an opinion? After all, in the last 3 posts he was responding to something written by some one else. Or are we going to see the usual self righteous remark because some one in Admin/Mods has a thin skin and cannot take criticism. Well here's the thing Andy. The 3 month giveaway does look cheap. it does look as though this site is being cheeseparing and Fagin like in its approach. The Bandits are giving away 12 months and we have no reason to except to engender a spirit of community without asking people to follow our rules of signatures and avatars. This is Owen's beef and to be frank I agree with him wholeheartedly.

Are you now going to threaten me with a ban as I have written about the same subject (criticising you, Andy, and your team) twice in a matter of a couple of hours? Am I allowed just one more post of opinion before you throw me off the forums?

Gillipig wrote:He was sort of ruining the spirit of it all which is to spread the warmth. And I can understand it's annoying when you've put down work into something and you've got someone bragging/being a pain in the ass and stating pretty much the same negative comments over and over again! If it were anyone else than Owen this were done to I'd say it wasn't warranted but since it's him....... !

Gillipig wrote:If it were anyone else than Owen this were done to I'd say it wasn't warranted but since it's him....... !

Dibbun wrote:

Gillipig wrote:He was sort of ruining the spirit of it all which is to spread the warmth. And I can understand it's annoying when you've put down work into something and you've got someone bragging/being a pain in the ass and stating pretty much the same negative comments over and over again! If it were anyone else than Owen this were done to I'd say it wasn't warranted but since it's him....... !

So if I don't act happy enough I get banned? That's usually how police states roll - everyone have a smile! Where's your smile? How about I beat you until you're smiling!?

You make a good point, in that if it were anyone but owen they would have overlooked it but I think Andy has had an axe to grind against him, illustrated in his comment in the PM that "most people" think that owen trolls in a lot of his posts.

I think we need to make clear that there are many of us who find that most people just post garbage on these boards and owen is one of the very special few who brightens my day with his acerbic wit and the smart commentary embedded in each of his slice of life diffusions.

natty_dread wrote:

Gillipig wrote:If it were anyone else than Owen this were done to I'd say it wasn't warranted but since it's him....... !

Racist.

Dibbun wrote:

Gillipig wrote:He was sort of ruining the spirit of it all which is to spread the warmth. And I can understand it's annoying when you've put down work into something and you've got someone bragging/being a pain in the ass and stating pretty much the same negative comments over and over again! If it were anyone else than Owen this were done to I'd say it wasn't warranted but since it's him....... !

So if I don't act happy enough I get banned? That's usually how police states roll - everyone have a smile! Where's your smile? How about I beat you until you're smiling!?

You make a good point, in that if it were anyone but owen they would have overlooked it but I think Andy has had an axe to grind against him, illustrated in his comment in the PM that "most people" think that owen trolls in a lot of his posts.

I think we need to make clear that there are many of us who find that most people just post garbage on these boards and owen is one of the very special few who brightens my day with his acerbic wit and the smart commentary embedded in each of his slice of life diffusions.

Fruitcake wrote:So exactly why was Owen given this ban?

Well, for the sake of openness let's take a look. he received an email stating:

Ahoy Owenshooter,

It looks like recently you've engaged in some specific trolling, RE your posts:
(the posts are quoted here for sake of brevity. Fc)

Re: *BpB Sig Contest/FREE PREMIUM*
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:49 am

owenshooter wrote:how original... team CC has a contest where you sport a sig with a partner, one premium one freemium (doubling the exposure of the sig)... and if you win the drawing the premium gets a medal and the freemium gets 3 months of premium. how can our rag tag clan give away a year, and cc can only manage 3 months? wow!!!-0

Re: [Free Premium] Share the Warmth Epidemic 2011
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:51 am

owenshooter wrote:wow... how is it that our rag tag clan can give away a free year premium to a freemium, and team CC can only manage 3 months? i applaud you for your efforts (i believe the bandits invented the sig contest concept on CC), but CC needs to step up in the prize dept. it looks bad when a bunch of forum renegades and kick ass players can muster together the funds to give away a year premium, and team cc gives away 3 months... you are better than this team CC!!!-0

p.s.-any freemium interested in a year, click on my sig...

Re: General Congratulations
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:54 am

owenshooter wrote:congrats to the CC entertainment team for copying the bandits with a sig contest and upping the anty with a whole 3 month premium for the winner... oh wait, we always give away a full year!!! way to go team CC!!!-0

Re: General Congratulations
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:06 am

owenshooter wrote:

Crazyirishman wrote:Congrats to the black jesus for forgetting that the CC team has done this for multiple years now, despite their yearning to mimic the BPB

Congrats to the CC entertainment team for making a contest that requires less effort/knowledge for the general populace.

PS- (your contest is still fun El Jesus Negro, nobody is trying to steal your thunder.)

congrats to the wee man for not knowing his CC history and that we have done this contest every year since cc's inception...-0

Re: General Congratulations
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:20 pm

owenshooter wrote:

AndyDufresne wrote:Congrats to the Entertainment Team and the Summer Bash.


--Andy

congrats to the summer bash starting almost 2 full months after the start of summer (june 21st)... and congrats to team CC for not ponying up more than 3 months of premium for a contest when clans and individuals have contests going now with a full premium for the prize... step it up CC, you are looking bad...-0

Re: [Free Premium] Share the Warmth Epidemic 2011
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:27 pm

owenshooter wrote:

samuelc812 wrote:For the record owen, we are giving away a total of 2 years and 3 months in this entire event. We can offer more people prizes by splitting up what we've got, so we can make more people happy. But then again i know i shouldn't be wasting my breath explaining this to you, since by your own admission to me you argue for the sake of argument.

~Sam

hey, all i'm saying is others are giving away a full year, so you kind of look cheap... and not to mention summer started 2 months ago... anyway, knock yourself out!!! have fun!!-0

Andy then goes on to say "I think it is safe to say the above posts, which occurred over a 16 hour span actually are objectively Trolling."...hmmm..are they Andy? I see just 3 independent posts from Owen. He then responded to 3 posts, 2 of which are your team (1 in fact yourself).

Are you or your team going to come back with a rational explanation as to why you chose to shut Owen up because he exercised his right to state an opinion? After all, in the last 3 posts he was responding to something written by some one else. Or are we going to see the usual self righteous remark because some one in Admin/Mods has a thin skin and cannot take criticism. Well here's the thing Andy. The 3 month giveaway does look cheap. it does look as though this site is being cheeseparing and Fagin like in its approach. The Bandits are giving away 12 months and we have no reason to except to engender a spirit of community without asking people to follow our rules of signatures and avatars. This is Owen's beef and to be frank I agree with him wholeheartedly.

Are you now going to threaten me with a ban as I have written about the same subject (criticising you, Andy, and your team) twice in a matter of a couple of hours? Am I allowed just one more post of opinion before you throw me off the forums?

rbelgrod wrote:god bless the removal of owen..........the black belgrod

The Voice wrote:I won't disagree with the ruling that Owen's posts were trolling because, even after reading the definition over and over again, I still feel like there's a whole lot of room for interpretation; however, banning Owen from the forums--like the banning of Commander--is bad for the CC community.

Lindax wrote:

The Voice wrote:I won't disagree with the ruling that Owen's posts were trolling because, even after reading the definition over and over again, I still feel like there's a whole lot of room for interpretation; however, banning Owen from the forums--like the banning of Commander--is bad for the CC community.

You must be new to TeamCC.

Lx

The Voice wrote:I won't disagree with the ruling that Owen's posts were trolling because, even after reading the definition over and over again, I still don't think I get it; however, banning Owen from the forums--like the banning of Commander--is bad for the CC community.

The Voice wrote:

Lindax wrote:

The Voice wrote:I won't disagree with the ruling that Owen's posts were trolling because, even after reading the definition over and over again, I still feel like there's a whole lot of room for interpretation; however, banning Owen from the forums--like the banning of Commander--is bad for the CC community.

You must be new to TeamCC.

Lx

I am indeed. But I'm interested to know why you say that? Have I overstepped my bounds?

The Voice wrote:

Lindax wrote:

The Voice wrote:I won't disagree with the ruling that Owen's posts were trolling because, even after reading the definition over and over again, I still feel like there's a whole lot of room for interpretation; however, banning Owen from the forums--like the banning of Commander--is bad for the CC community.

You must be new to TeamCC.

Lx

I am indeed. But I'm interested to know why you say that? Have I overstepped my bounds, or am I just flat out wrong when it comes to understanding what is good for the community?

Bruceswar wrote:

The Voice wrote:

Lindax wrote:

The Voice wrote:I won't disagree with the ruling that Owen's posts were trolling because, even after reading the definition over and over again, I still feel like there's a whole lot of room for interpretation; however, banning Owen from the forums--like the banning of Commander--is bad for the CC community.

You must be new to TeamCC.

Lx

I am indeed. But I'm interested to know why you say that? Have I overstepped my bounds?

You just do not know owen yet.

Fruitcake wrote:So exactly why was Owen given this ban?

Well, for the sake of openness let's take a look. he received an email stating:

Ahoy Owenshooter,

It looks like recently you've engaged in some specific trolling, RE your posts:
(the posts are quoted here for sake of brevity. Fc)

Re: *BpB Sig Contest/FREE PREMIUM*
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:49 am

owenshooter wrote:how original... team CC has a contest where you sport a sig with a partner, one premium one freemium (doubling the exposure of the sig)... and if you win the drawing the premium gets a medal and the freemium gets 3 months of premium. how can our rag tag clan give away a year, and cc can only manage 3 months? wow!!!-0

Re: [Free Premium] Share the Warmth Epidemic 2011
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:51 am

owenshooter wrote:wow... how is it that our rag tag clan can give away a free year premium to a freemium, and team CC can only manage 3 months? i applaud you for your efforts (i believe the bandits invented the sig contest concept on CC), but CC needs to step up in the prize dept. it looks bad when a bunch of forum renegades and kick ass players can muster together the funds to give away a year premium, and team cc gives away 3 months... you are better than this team CC!!!-0

p.s.-any freemium interested in a year, click on my sig...

Re: General Congratulations
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:54 am

owenshooter wrote:congrats to the CC entertainment team for copying the bandits with a sig contest and upping the anty with a whole 3 month premium for the winner... oh wait, we always give away a full year!!! way to go team CC!!!-0

Re: General Congratulations
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:06 am

owenshooter wrote:

Crazyirishman wrote:Congrats to the black jesus for forgetting that the CC team has done this for multiple years now, despite their yearning to mimic the BPB

Congrats to the CC entertainment team for making a contest that requires less effort/knowledge for the general populace.

PS- (your contest is still fun El Jesus Negro, nobody is trying to steal your thunder.)

congrats to the wee man for not knowing his CC history and that we have done this contest every year since cc's inception...-0

Re: General Congratulations
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:20 pm

owenshooter wrote:

AndyDufresne wrote:Congrats to the Entertainment Team and the Summer Bash.


--Andy

congrats to the summer bash starting almost 2 full months after the start of summer (june 21st)... and congrats to team CC for not ponying up more than 3 months of premium for a contest when clans and individuals have contests going now with a full premium for the prize... step it up CC, you are looking bad...-0

Re: [Free Premium] Share the Warmth Epidemic 2011
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:27 pm

owenshooter wrote:

samuelc812 wrote:For the record owen, we are giving away a total of 2 years and 3 months in this entire event. We can offer more people prizes by splitting up what we've got, so we can make more people happy. But then again i know i shouldn't be wasting my breath explaining this to you, since by your own admission to me you argue for the sake of argument.

~Sam

hey, all i'm saying is others are giving away a full year, so you kind of look cheap... and not to mention summer started 2 months ago... anyway, knock yourself out!!! have fun!!-0

Andy then goes on to say "I think it is safe to say the above posts, which occurred over a 16 hour span actually are objectively Trolling."...hmmm..are they Andy? I see just 3 independent posts from Owen. He then responded to 3 posts, 2 of which are your team (1 in fact yourself).

Are you or your team going to come back with a rational explanation as to why you chose to shut Owen up because he exercised his right to state an opinion? After all, in the last 3 posts he was responding to something written by some one else. Or are we going to see the usual self righteous remark because some one in Admin/Mods has a thin skin and cannot take criticism. Well here's the thing Andy. The 3 month giveaway does look cheap. it does look as though this site is being cheeseparing and Fagin like in its approach. The Bandits are giving away 12 months and we have no reason to except to engender a spirit of community without asking people to follow our rules of signatures and avatars. This is Owen's beef and to be frank I agree with him wholeheartedly.

Are you now going to threaten me with a ban as I have written about the same subject (criticising you, Andy, and your team) twice in a matter of a couple of hours? Am I allowed just one more post of opinion before you throw me off the forums?

Victor Sullivan wrote:Who do you consider "CC", jbrettlip?

-Sully

Victor Sullivan wrote:Who do you consider "CC", jbrettlip?

-Sully