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Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:11 am
by trapyoung
Seuss, Timminz's point was that just because you have time for A, does not mean you have time for A & B even if the amount of time for each independently is the same. It's like if I have to go get groceries and get a haircut. Both activities take 15 minutes, but if I've only got 20 minutes free, then I most certainly can't do both.

As for not saying good luck and not saying good game, those are different things. I usually aspire to say 'gg' concluding a match, but since I play many team games (and many esc card games), games can end when I do not expect them to or reach my Finished folder without me realizing it since I run a lot of games. Then if I come across it I don't actually expect someone on the other team to check days later after the game has expired to see if I went back in and typed 'gg'. So if the game is obviously coming to a close and I catch it in time I'll say it, but if not, why bother?

I also agree with foxy's point. Why say something you don't agree with? People have wished me good luck and I appreciate it, but lately I have not returned the favor. I wish them fair luck because I actually hate seeing people get good luck and accomplish shit that shouldn't be possible - I'd rather it be fair and even for both teams.

I think it's stupid to come up with some arbitrary mathematical formula for determining attitude ratings. If you speak (or attempt to speak) to another player in game chat and they are rude or if they lash out in game chat and act rude, then feel free to adjust your ratings. But to not say anything yourself and just apply it arbitrarily to whatever they do is just dumb. What if you're in a best of 5 with the person, do you need to say it each time/game?

If you want to talk someone, join a clan, go to live chat or use the forums. I think the stupidest venue is the game chat especially in light of 'hide chat', 'team chat' and the game log getting in the way.

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:48 am
by Seulessliathan
trapyoung wrote:Seuss, Timminz's point was that just because you have time for A, does not mean you have time for A & B even if the amount of time for each independently is the same. It's like if I have to go get groceries and get a haircut. Both activities take 15 minutes, but if I've only got 20 minutes free, then I most certainly can't do both.


here you talk about something which takes equal time, 15min for both. But i doubt typing "hi" or "gl" or "hf" or even "good luck and have fun" will consume more than 1% of the time you spend with the game. In general, of course you sometimes don´t have time for A & B, but if A is something you do in your leasure time, and you do A twenty or fifty times ( or more often .... same time!) then i think you will have time for B since it´s just a very few extra time. Of course there is no need for any chat, and i have no problem with people who don´t say anything in chat. I simply prefer to have 1% less games and take time for saying "have fun" .

I agree with Foxy and Wood, that´s why i always say "have fun"

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:11 pm
by rdsrds2120
DJPatrick wrote:You know I read someone's post in a C&A report where they mark one down on attitude for no "gl" at the beginning, a further one down for now gg at the end to get to average and one more off for nothing in the middle to get down to 2/below average with a "silent" comment...A bit arbitrary but I agree and have started using the same methodology (exceptions for those with less than 50 games as sometimes they don't even know there IS game chat)...
The whole ratings are pretty rudimentary but this seems a "fair" way to mark "attitude" which is hard to define...
Just and opinion and if you don't share it then "gl with THAT!"...LOL


Not saying you shouldn't, but I don't agree with that. You see, I take comments in the game chat for what they are: just comments in a game chat. INot saying 'gl' or 'gg' isn't necessarily a bad thing. When I play games, I do just that; I play for the sake of playing and having fun. Unless I'm playing with someone I know, I usually barely speak at all. Because of this, I don't wish misfortune on the other person for not talking as I usually do the same. The only time I mark people down for attitude is if they actually give a good reason for me to. For example, comments such as "This game sucks!" when losing, or "Profanity and obscenity!" is when I mark the other players down. If they say nothing, I just carry on my merry way and assume neutrality, which isn't really worth marking people down for.

-rd

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:04 pm
by bonzifan
I say have fun, because that would be genuine. I never say good luck - I'd rather luck wasn't in the picture.

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:34 pm
by Timminz
Some people have a lot of trouble letting go of silly opinions. Luckily for me, I'm a very easy-going kinda guy, so I don't get too worked up when people show how I'm being ridiculous.

Anyway, I never say "good luck", or "gl". Always "Have fun :)", or "Enjoy", with "gg" at the end. When I remember/have time to check the chat, that is.

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:45 am
by Seulessliathan
ok, maybe i should summ my opinion up:

i think it shows good manners to say anything in chat, but i know a lot of people don´t care about gamechat and just want to play.
that´s ok, other kind of philosophy, but no harm done. i like it when people have the time to say "hi, "greetings", "have fun" or something like that.
several people play a lot of games same time, and i can understand that they sometimes just have to rush their turns and don´t chat, no problem. We are all sometimes busy. I am happy when people say hi, but if they don´t do it ....ok, other people care less about all that .... ok. just an online game.

I also believe that 49 games and greetings in chat are better style than 50 games without greetings, and i´m willing to reduce my gamecount to a number which makes it possible to talk in gamechat. But that´s a question of style, and 90% of CC players will prefer the full number of games. ok

not ok is that some people call their opinon "fact" in a discussion like this. this is a public forum, and all personal opinions in such a discussion should be accepted.

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:44 am
by macbone
Eh, it's like chess or a ball game - end with a handshake, a gg. There's no reason to wish the other player good luck, especially when you actually wish them bad luck. =)

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:37 pm
by Master Fenrir
I rarely say "good luck" because it would be insincere. If somebody else says good luck to me or my team first, I'll respond with a "Thanks. Have fun." I will always say "good game" at the end of a game. And if it's a game with a friendly and respected opponent such as Seul, I'll usually chat to a greater degree, probably cracking a few jokes in the process.

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:43 am
by saraith
Most of the time, I'll say gl at the start of a game (or at least when I think of it, even if it's 5 rounds in). My reasoning is just simply because it's good Karma. I wish my opponent good luck in the hopes that I will receive good luck in return.

That said, though, "luck" is simply probability, taken personally.

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:29 am
by Gypsys Kiss
I usually say "Fucking dice" or something along those lines....

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:49 am
by AndyDufresne
Like many of you, 'Have fun' was something I picked up a couple of years ago as an appropriate greeting to generally unfamiliar users in game chat.

I once came across a user who posted one of various famous quotes about war as his first post in game chat. That is pretty amusing to follow along in his games.


--Andy

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:53 am
by eddie2
I find it awkward in team games. if you forget to uncheck the box you cannot post it again straight away so i ussually forget.

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:45 pm
by the.killing.44
eddie2 wrote:I find it awkward in team games. if you forget to uncheck the box you cannot post it again straight away so i ussually forget.

I bet it must befuzzle the hell out of you when someone says something like, "2009-04-07 19:48:09 - the.killing.44: 2009-04-07 18:46:29 - the.killing.44 [team]: good luck"

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:02 pm
by notyou2
I try to always say

Have luck, good fun : )

I have moved my game chat box to the top of my screen so I see chat first. I find that helps to not miss game discussions but especially dubs, trips and quads strategy.

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:41 pm
by jeraado
So I guess the moral of the story is, if you care about ratings/what people think of you then type something polite in the chat box to start with, and if you don't care then this thread isn't for you

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:24 pm
by DrewDude
I believe that saying good luck and laughing at your own fails makes the game play much better. If you and your opponent are laughing at your own fails then you're having a good time which is how people should play Risk. Some 12 year olds screaming and ranting about how the dice are rigged and you were a lucky guy and cuss you out makes the community look bad so why not sit back and relax and enjoy an entertaining game like everyone should? 8-)

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:25 pm
by GabonX
Woodruff wrote:
Risky_Fem wrote:I'm getting irritated by the growing (?) amount of people who just say nothing while playing a game. How hard is it just to say good luck/gl and gg?
The friend who introduced me to CC said I should always do that en be polite cause that's the standard here. But mayby he got it wrong and it ain't so normal?


I don't want them to have good luck, so I don't say that.

:lol: =D>
I always thought saying gl was kind of disingenuous personally...

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:35 pm
by squishyg
notyou2 wrote:I try to always say

Have luck, good fun : )

I have moved my game chat box to the top of my screen so I see chat first. I find that helps to not miss game discussions but especially dubs, trips and quads strategy.


how were you able to do that? the bruises from Mojo's boot might have a chance to heal if chat was at the top of my screen. and if it contained pretty pictures.

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:02 pm
by notyou2
squishyg wrote:
notyou2 wrote:I try to always say

Have luck, good fun : )

I have moved my game chat box to the top of my screen so I see chat first. I find that helps to not miss game discussions but especially dubs, trips and quads strategy.


how were you able to do that? the bruises from Mojo's boot might have a chance to heal if chat was at the top of my screen. and if it contained
pretty pictures.


Not sure how I did it....it may be a BOB function or something. I am sure there is someone around here that knows how to do it.


Good luck.

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:10 pm
by saraith
notyou2 wrote:
squishyg wrote:
notyou2 wrote:I try to always say

Have luck, good fun : )

I have moved my game chat box to the top of my screen so I see chat first. I find that helps to not miss game discussions but especially dubs, trips and quads strategy.


how were you able to do that? the bruises from Mojo's boot might have a chance to heal if chat was at the top of my screen. and if it contained
pretty pictures.


Not sure how I did it....it may be a BOB function or something. I am sure there is someone around here that knows how to do it.


Good luck.

Yes... it's a BOB thing. One of the things under View Options (while you're in a game) will say "Chat on Top: Off"
Just click it to turn it on

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:04 am
by squishyg
saraith wrote:
notyou2 wrote:
squishyg wrote:
notyou2 wrote:I try to always say

Have luck, good fun : )

I have moved my game chat box to the top of my screen so I see chat first. I find that helps to not miss game discussions but especially dubs, trips and quads strategy.


how were you able to do that? the bruises from Mojo's boot might have a chance to heal if chat was at the top of my screen. and if it contained
pretty pictures.


Not sure how I did it....it may be a BOB function or something. I am sure there is someone around here that knows how to do it.


Good luck.

Yes... it's a BOB thing. One of the things under View Options (while you're in a game) will say "Chat on Top: Off"
Just click it to turn it on



yay, thank you!!!

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:45 am
by notyou2
squishyg wrote:
saraith wrote:
notyou2 wrote:
squishyg wrote:
notyou2 wrote:I try to always say

Have luck, good fun : )

I have moved my game chat box to the top of my screen so I see chat first. I find that helps to not miss game discussions but especially dubs, trips and quads strategy.


how were you able to do that? the bruises from Mojo's boot might have a chance to heal if chat was at the top of my screen. and if it contained
pretty pictures.


Not sure how I did it....it may be a BOB function or something. I am sure there is someone around here that knows how to do it.


Good luck.

Yes... it's a BOB thing. One of the things under View Options (while you're in a game) will say "Chat on Top: Off"
Just click it to turn it on



yay, thank you!!!


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Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:13 am
by Qwert
by Master Fenrir » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:37 pm

I rarely say "good luck" because it would be insincere.

apsolutly correct.

by Gypsys Kiss on Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:29 pm

I usually say "Fucking dice" or something along those lines....

yep,its best to say "brake a legg" instead GL .
I heard so many time GL and GG , and that i get 1 $ every time when i heard that ,i will have more money then point in scoreboard.

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:20 am
by Master Fenrir
I think that from now on, my response to "gl" will be "qwert hates you."

Re: Why not say 'good luck'?

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:14 am
by Foxglove
Master Fenrir wrote:I think that from now on, my response to "gl" will be "qwert hates you and wants your lower limbs to snap like twigs."


Fixed.