Conquer Club

ViperOverLord wrote:

InkL0sed wrote:

ViperOverLord wrote:
You just said that your opinion is inferior all the same. I think it's good that you have at least something of a reality check.

That'd be true if I had said "inferior as mine." As it stands, while I phrased it poorly, I said no such thing.

BTW, I was not being condescending nearly as much as I was engaging in existentialism. The useful idiots are the ignorant masses that Lenin referred to as being neccessary for any communist revolution.

Speaking of ignorance, you seem ignorant of the meaning of existentialism. Ironic.

You're still being condescending. It's OK when you merit it, like I do. Unfortunately, you don't. Sorry, you can't join the club.

You have added no value to this discussion. I said to name three good things about Obama and you can't do it. You are dismissed.

Oh snap! A junior Neocon taking shots at Obama! What a delightful digression from the usual fruitferGlennBeck crowd.

News flash for you genius - it doesn't take a fooking rocket scientist to see that Obama is an asshat. Problem is that folks like you choose one asshat over another asshat and feel superior about it. Wtf?


Honibaz

saxitoxin wrote:With the exception of Dr. Paul, who is too old to be competitive (he's older than ol' Saxi isn't he?!), all of these are IDRP (Institutional Democrat-Republican Party) candidates.

Supporting any of them over Obama (or Obama over any of them) is akin to the scene in Moon Over Parador where the people are assembled in the square in front of dictator Alfonse Sims presidential palace chanting the names of the candidate they're supporting in the upcoming Paradoran presidential election: "RED SIMS!" ... "No! BLUE SIMS!" ... "No! Vote RED SIMS!"

They look down on these demonstrations and laugh. They don't care if Obama is president or Pence is president, as long as an IDRP candidate is sitting in the White House. You're gladiators in a ring. But, at the end of the day there's only one winner: Caesar.

What do you think about the Tea Party having a chance to penetrate the IDRP? I know some people will sell out, and some people are hack-plants, but now there are a million little Ron Pauls.

Huge Paul Ryan fan...

b.k. barunt wrote:Oh snap! A junior Neocon taking shots at Obama! What a delightful digression from the usual fruitferGlennBeck crowd.

News flash for you genius - it doesn't take a fooking rocket scientist to see that Obama is an asshat. Problem is that folks like you choose one asshat over another asshat and feel superior about it. Wtf?


Honibaz

Correction: He's rejecting the current asshat in favour of a a king-sized asshat that comes with a free turd on the inside.

Phatscotty wrote:What do you think about the Tea Party having a chance to penetrate the IDRP? I know some people will sell out, and some people are hack-plants, but now there are a million little Ron Pauls.

There is zero chance of that happening through ballot-box politics.

Once the Democrat Party succeeded in permanently eradicating the People's Party and the Republican Party succeeded in permanently eradicating the Silver Republican Party a decision was made that the threat of continued national fracture through the turbulence wrought by the theretofore successful American third party movement was too great a risk.

The IDRP has spent the last 100 years solidifying their grip on power.

That said, for Americans, there actually are some benefits of the one-party IDRP system. Part of the global political and military strength the U.S. enjoys is not simply through force of numbers. If the U.S. were not able to maintain a 90% absolute status quo in foreign affairs from presidency to presidency it would enjoy only a fraction of the world influence it does. This stability allows the U.S. to operate a de facto system of global taxation through the sale of, essentially worthless, Treasury securities to sovereign governments.

The DPRK, for example, couldn't move ten miles south of the DMZ without running out of fuel, food and ammunition. Why are 40,000 American troops in the ROK? Because Japan and the ROK have made more than US$1 trillion in tribute payments to the U.S. government (via the worthless "Treasury Securities" and other instruments) and the U.S. demands the tribute checks keep coming. That's how statues of Robert Byrd in West Virginia are built, highways in California are constructed and farmers in Iowa get paid for not growing crops.

The minute the real outcome of the destruction of the IDRP is shown to any American, they back way off on the demands for things like a gold standard, competitive presidential elections, public disclosure and graftless government. (as they should - nations act in their own interest; there is nothing immoral in nature) But it necessarily happens in private. If it happened in public you wouldn't get 500,000 German drones mindlessly drooling at the majestic arrival of the Augustine Emperor in Berlin for a pre-coronation tour of his provinces.

Speaking of that last point, if it ever gets translated into English you should read this book - http://www.amazon.de/Die-deutsche-Karte ... 390247534X - by a retired general officer of the Bundeswehr and head of West German intelligence. It was panned in Germany because the reality of what he detailed was too uncomfortable for anyone in a cozy little red-green social-democracy like Germany to accept so they dismissed it as sensationalism. But it was true, true ... it needs not be pointed out that next month it will have been 30 years since the train station in Bologna, Italy was temporarily closed for repairs ...

saxitoxin wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:What do you think about the Tea Party having a chance to penetrate the IDRP? I know some people will sell out, and some people are hack-plants, but now there are a million little Ron Pauls.

There is zero chance of that happening through ballot-box politics.

Once the Democrat Party succeeded in permanently eradicating the People's Party and the Republican Party succeeded in permanently eradicating the Silver Republican Party a decision was made that the threat of continued national fracture through the turbulence wrought by the theretofore successful American third party movement was too great a risk.

The IDRP has spent the last 100 years solidifying their grip on power.

That said, for Americans, there actually are some benefits of the one-party IDRP system. Part of the global political and military strength the U.S. enjoys is not simply through force of numbers. If the U.S. were not able to maintain a 90% absolute status quo in foreign affairs from presidency to presidency it would enjoy only a fraction of the world influence it does. This stability allows the U.S. to operate a de facto system of global taxation through the sale of, essentially worthless, Treasury securities to sovereign governments.

The DPRK, for example, couldn't move ten miles south of the DMZ without running out of fuel, food and ammunition. Why are 40,000 American troops in the ROK? Because Japan and the ROK have made more than US$1 trillion in tribute payments to the U.S. government (via the worthless "Treasury Securities" and other instruments) and the U.S. demands the tribute checks keep coming. That's how statues of Robert Byrd in West Virginia are built, highways in California are constructed and farmers in Iowa get paid for not growing crops.

The minute the real outcome of the destruction of the IDRP is shown to any American, they back way off on the demands for things like a gold standard, competitive presidential elections, public disclosure and graftless government. (as they should - nations act in their own interest; there is nothing immoral in nature) But it necessarily happens in private. If it happened in public you wouldn't get 500,000 German drones mindlessly drooling at the majestic arrival of the Augustine Emperor in Berlin for a pre-coronation tour of his provinces.

Speaking of that last point, if it ever gets translated into English you should read this book - http://www.amazon.de/Die-deutsche-Karte ... 390247534X - by a retired general officer of the Bundeswehr and head of West German intelligence. It was panned in Germany because the reality of what he detailed was too uncomfortable for anyone in a cozy little red-green social-democracy like Germany to accept so they dismissed it as sensationalism. But it was true, true ... it needs not be pointed out that next month it will have been 30 years since the train station in Bologna, Italy was temporarily closed for repairs ...

We are going to try. I believe....I BELIEVE!

Phatscotty wrote:

saxitoxin wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:What do you think about the Tea Party having a chance to penetrate the IDRP? I know some people will sell out, and some people are hack-plants, but now there are a million little Ron Pauls.

There is zero chance of that happening through ballot-box politics.

Once the Democrat Party succeeded in permanently eradicating the People's Party and the Republican Party succeeded in permanently eradicating the Silver Republican Party a decision was made that the threat of continued national fracture through the turbulence wrought by the theretofore successful American third party movement was too great a risk.

The IDRP has spent the last 100 years solidifying their grip on power.

That said, for Americans, there actually are some benefits of the one-party IDRP system. Part of the global political and military strength the U.S. enjoys is not simply through force of numbers. If the U.S. were not able to maintain a 90% absolute status quo in foreign affairs from presidency to presidency it would enjoy only a fraction of the world influence it does. This stability allows the U.S. to operate a de facto system of global taxation through the sale of, essentially worthless, Treasury securities to sovereign governments.

The DPRK, for example, couldn't move ten miles south of the DMZ without running out of fuel, food and ammunition. Why are 40,000 American troops in the ROK? Because Japan and the ROK have made more than US$1 trillion in tribute payments to the U.S. government (via the worthless "Treasury Securities" and other instruments) and the U.S. demands the tribute checks keep coming. That's how statues of Robert Byrd in West Virginia are built, highways in California are constructed and farmers in Iowa get paid for not growing crops.

The minute the real outcome of the destruction of the IDRP is shown to any American, they back way off on the demands for things like a gold standard, competitive presidential elections, public disclosure and graftless government. (as they should - nations act in their own interest; there is nothing immoral in nature) But it necessarily happens in private. If it happened in public you wouldn't get 500,000 German drones mindlessly drooling at the majestic arrival of the Augustine Emperor in Berlin for a pre-coronation tour of his provinces.

Speaking of that last point, if it ever gets translated into English you should read this book - http://www.amazon.de/Die-deutsche-Karte ... 390247534X - by a retired general officer of the Bundeswehr and head of West German intelligence. It was panned in Germany because the reality of what he detailed was too uncomfortable for anyone in a cozy little red-green social-democracy like Germany to accept so they dismissed it as sensationalism. But it was true, true ... it needs not be pointed out that next month it will have been 30 years since the train station in Bologna, Italy was temporarily closed for repairs ...

We are going to try. I believe....I BELIEVE!

Let me ask you: if your house is on fire, and it is beyond saving, should you, (a) in exercise of futility, try to put out the fire anyway, (b) stand and watch it burn, or, (c) throw gasoline on it so it will burn faster and you can begin rebuilding sooner?

LOL! I did not type "ask"

My house is all I got. I might be able to grab the portrait over the mantle before it goes.

Doc_Brown wrote:Was the "neighbor" comment in reference to my suggestion of Paul Ryan? He's got a lot better name recognition nation-wide than does Mike Pence, though this morning I did recall that I've seen his name before, but I still can't recall any specifics about him unlike with Ryan. Ryan's "Roadmap" is very reminiscent of Gingrich's "Contract with America," and I think Republicans will do a lot better this fall and in 2012 if they unify around a message along those lines.

I did not see you mention Paul Ryan but I am not familiar with him.

Doc_Brown wrote:Ah. You're one of those guys that listened to all the spin about Paul "blaming America" and being part of the "9-11 truthers." In reality, he was advocating the same foreign policy that Bush did back in 1999 and 2000. It's too bad the former liberals turned the dominant foreign policy theory of the Republican party into neoconservativism. The traditional conservative position has its roots in libertarian thought, while the neoconservatives continue in the liberal Wilsonian thought. I guess it makes sense that if you don't really want the government to be any smaller but you also want it to be less intrusive in your life that you decide to make it more involved in foreign countries.

I'm not one of those guys that bought anything from anyone. I watched the debates and I watched as Paul condemned any military action in Afghanistan. As for all your stuff about what I want regarding big government, I don't know where you get that.

Doc_Brown wrote:http://www.politifact.com/personalities/michele-bachmann/statements/

I'm supposed to be worried about that? I don't know that all of those statements are accurate and if they are then I still don't know if all of her facts are accurate. In any event, she looks like a strong voice of reason on important matters. I could care less about looking for insignificant flaws beyond the pale.

Doc_Brown wrote:I lived in Florida for much of Bush's tenure as governor, and I'd be okay with him as president, all things being equal, and I think he would have done a better job than his brother. But we haven't had a great track record with that family in the White House, and I don't think the country would stand for another Bush. Regardless of Jeb's policies, if he was the nominee, he'd do about as well as a brother or son of Richard Nixon would have in 1976 or 1980.

Ironically, I lived in Texas for 2 year's of George's gov term. He was a solid governor too. As far as the country standing for another Bush, I don't agree with that at all. There were a lot of loud mouth haters and the elite media railed against him. Look at how they were on their megaphones about the wars and the economy. It was death counts and unemployment numbers every day. With a war still going and unemployment much worse, the media has all but washed that away. I could care less about that 'country.' As far as I'm concerned those a-holes deserve a lifetime of every Bush that comes there way.

InkL0sed wrote:No option for "I don't want Obama to lose" in 2012?

Yeah, I think he was trying to leave the socialists out of this.

Doc_Brown wrote:Paul........ I really like this guy (he's the only political candidate I've ever sent money to), but unfortunately most of the Republican party doesn't. He's also getting pretty old at this point. His son could be a good

Me too!

Phatscotty wrote:

saxitoxin wrote:With the exception of Dr. Paul, who is too old to be competitive (he's older than ol' Saxi isn't he?!), all of these are IDRP (Institutional Democrat-Republican Party) candidates.

Supporting any of them over Obama (or Obama over any of them) is akin to the scene in Moon Over Parador where the people are assembled in the square in front of dictator Alfonse Sims presidential palace chanting the names of the candidate they're supporting in the upcoming Paradoran presidential election: "RED SIMS!" ... "No! BLUE SIMS!" ... "No! Vote RED SIMS!"

They look down on these demonstrations and laugh. They don't care if Obama is president or Pence is president, as long as an IDRP candidate is sitting in the White House. You're gladiators in a ring. But, at the end of the day there's only one winner: Caesar.

What do you think about the Tea Party having a chance to penetrate the IDRP? I know some people will sell out, and some people are hack-plants, but now there are a million little Ron Pauls.

Ummmm . . . try a million bandwagonjumping wannabes who think they're little Ron Pauls. Just sayin . . .


Honibaz

saxitoxin wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:What do you think about the Tea Party having a chance to penetrate the IDRP? I know some people will sell out, and some people are hack-plants, but now there are a million little Ron Pauls.

Speaking of that last point, if it ever gets translated into English you should read this book - http://www.amazon.de/Die-deutsche-Karte ... 390247534X - by a retired general officer of the Bundeswehr and head of West German intelligence. It was panned in Germany because the reality of what he detailed was too uncomfortable for anyone in a cozy little red-green social-democracy like Germany to accept so they dismissed it as sensationalism. But it was true, true ... it needs not be pointed out that next month it will have been 30 years since the train station in Bologna, Italy was temporarily closed for repairs ...

Yea I'll get that. And while I'm at it I'll learn how to focking speak German. Actually I wish I could speak German. I'd love to yell at people in German when I get mad or even talk down to people in German lol.

<experiences uncomfortable moment of creepy goosepimples>

The more I see Governor Brewer the more I'm hoping she runs for president!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-UyQIQ2E_M&feature=related

Wow! I was really impressed! <snigger>

The woman bleated out a couple of one liners that i learned before kindergarten and looked like an awkward nerdette whilst doing it. You vote for whoever your parents vote for amirite?


Honibaz

ViperOverLord wrote:The more I see Governor Brewer the more I'm hoping she runs for president!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-UyQIQ2E_M&feature=related

Just so I'm clear, telling a crowd that Obama isn't doing a good job as president really excites you about her ability to do a better job?

Seriously, Governor Brewer may be well qualified, and there are probably other videos of her speeches that have a lot more content to them. That video doesn't do anything but make you look bad.

b.k. barunt wrote:Wow! I was really impressed! <snigger>

The woman bleated out a couple of one liners that i learned before kindergarten and looked like an awkward nerdette whilst doing it. You vote for whoever your parents vote for amirite?


Honibaz

I'm sorry she could not go off on a seven point diatribe and claim her place as a proper demagogue. Not only that your observation is only shameless spin. Obama said an ignorant one liner and she came back with a couple that hit the heart of the matter. But you go ahead and keep dick riding Obama.

Doc_Brown wrote:

ViperOverLord wrote:The more I see Governor Brewer the more I'm hoping she runs for president!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-UyQIQ2E_M&feature=related

Just so I'm clear, telling a crowd that Obama isn't doing a good job as president really excites you about her ability to do a better job?

Seriously, Governor Brewer may be well qualified, and there are probably other videos of her speeches that have a lot more content to them. That video doesn't do anything but make you look bad.

Dude c'mon. I spent a good hour researching her and watching vids. I put the video that bottom lined it. You shouldn't make such inept assumptions.

ViperOverLord wrote:

b.k. barunt wrote:Wow! I was really impressed! <snigger>

The woman bleated out a couple of one liners that i learned before kindergarten and looked like an awkward nerdette whilst doing it. You vote for whoever your parents vote for amirite?
Honibaz

I'm sorry she could not go off on a seven point diatribe and claim her place as a proper demagogue. Not only that your observation is only shameless spin. Obama said an ignorant one liner and she came back with a couple that hit the heart of the matter. But you go ahead and keep dick riding Obama.

You don't really know B.K. very well, do you?

ViperOverLord wrote:

b.k. barunt wrote:Wow! I was really impressed! <snigger>

The woman bleated out a couple of one liners that i learned before kindergarten and looked like an awkward nerdette whilst doing it. You vote for whoever your parents vote for amirite?


Honibaz

I'm sorry she could not go off on a seven point diatribe and claim her place as a proper demagogue. Not only that your observation is only shameless spin. Obama said an ignorant one liner and she came back with a couple that hit the heart of the matter. But you go ahead and keep dick riding Obama.

Honibaz proves why he is on the Academic Standards Committee of the Saxiversity. To extol Governor Brewer as the next savior on the basis of how good her stand-up routine is seems to be quite horrifying to say the least.

But, so that I don't seem politically one-sided, I did enjoy this article on the center-left The Daily Beast:

The feeling in that room was that there is nobody…in the West Wing of the White House, who ever so much as sold a pair of shoes,” said a source familiar with the meeting. "There was a sense in the room that they would have loved to have gotten Bill Clinton alone to talk to him about the economy," said the source. "He gets it."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and- ... f=obinsite

This thread has descended into inanity. Let's get rabbiton in here to SHUT 'ER DOWN!

saxitoxin wrote:

ViperOverLord wrote:

b.k. barunt wrote:Wow! I was really impressed! <snigger>

The woman bleated out a couple of one liners that i learned before kindergarten and looked like an awkward nerdette whilst doing it. You vote for whoever your parents vote for amirite?


Honibaz

I'm sorry she could not go off on a seven point diatribe and claim her place as a proper demagogue. Not only that your observation is only shameless spin. Obama said an ignorant one liner and she came back with a couple that hit the heart of the matter. But you go ahead and keep dick riding Obama.

Honibaz proves why he is on the Academic Standards Committee of the Saxiversity. To extol Governor Brewer as the next savior on the basis of how good her stand-up routine is seems to be quite horrifying to say the least.

But, so that I don't seem politically one-sided, I did enjoy this article on the center-left The Daily Beast:

The feeling in that room was that there is nobody…in the West Wing of the White House, who ever so much as sold a pair of shoes,” said a source familiar with the meeting. "There was a sense in the room that they would have loved to have gotten Bill Clinton alone to talk to him about the economy," said the source. "He gets it."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and- ... f=obinsite

This thread has descended into inanity. Let's get rabbiton in here to SHUT 'ER DOWN!

Thanks for the blog post based soley on an alleged anonymous source. I think you should shut yourself down.

ViperOverLord wrote:
Thanks for the blog post based soley on an alleged anonymous source. I think you should shut yourself down.

Uhhhh ... you started an anti-Obama thread and now, by just a few pages in, you've flipped and have started savaging anti-Obama comments?

You're like a newborn vampire in Stephanie Miller's uber-romantic series TWILIGHT! (Love it, gang!) Runnin' about, attacking anything regardless whether it's friend or foe, fighting whatever moves, suckin' on lotsa stuff ...

saxitoxin wrote:

ViperOverLord wrote:
Thanks for the blog post based soley on an alleged anonymous source. I think you should shut yourself down.

Uhhhh ... you started an anti-Obama thread and now, by just a few pages in, you've flipped and have started savaging anti-Obama comments?

You're like a newborn vampire in Stephanie Miller's uber-romantic series TWILIGHT! (Love it, gang!) Runnin' about, attacking anything regardless whether it's friend or foe, fighting whatever moves, suckin' on lotsa stuff ...

Wow. Now you're referencing Twilight.

Hey, he's being kind with that. I myself would reply to your inane chatter with Dr. Seuss.


Honibaz

No choices here. They are all crooks, liars, and has-beens.

Know any good democrats?