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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:23 am
by santon836
that's a good point.
Specialize in a resource.
That way there is a possible xml.
It's also used in the king of the mountains map.

What about a desert -1 bonus? (because the robber lives there)

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:33 am
by Madmartigan
Selin wrote:is there an online version of settlers of catan?
i play the board game regularly and love it


http://www.travian.com

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:14 pm
by notkin
If the settlement/city bonuses dont work then I am all for the resources.

About the desert I am cool with either having a -1 army or just having it be a border block and no one can attack it.

About the robber, I dont know if its possible, but what if it was a computer generated army that couldnt be killed completely (though you could take it down to 1) and each turn it would get three guys. It would then at the end of each round take its turn of attacking one country it borders.

Again I do not know if this is possible but it would be a new twist that would make this map unique.

This is a biased opinion but I am liking this map because there are so many new aspects involved with it.

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:01 am
by dannyvice
Okay, but how would the Robber move around? Presumably he would appear on a random territory, but every territory already has a player sitting on it. Even if you just set aside the "real" owner of that territory for the duration of the Robber's stay, there is still the question of when the Robber moves again. What triggers it? And is this sort of twist something that our lovely platform here is equipped to facilitate?

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:18 am
by dannyvice
I don't think the Desert should be a border block. It should be a sort of all time neutral enemy. You could conquer it and use it as a bridge to attack adjacent tiles, but if you occupy it you lose one army per turn. If there is only one army left on the desert by a real player, it reverts to a neutral enemy army. That way the Desert can be used to attack from, but it makes no sense to occupy.
This would also make for a very interesting endgame, as the desert would be one of the last territories anyone in their right mind would want to capture.

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:09 am
by axel
Selin wrote:is there an online version of settlers of catan?
i play the board game regularly and love it


http://www.s3dconnector.net/ is one of the best.

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:06 pm
by notkin
dannyvice wrote:Okay, but how would the Robber move around? Presumably he would appear on a random territory, but every territory already has a player sitting on it. Even if you just set aside the "real" owner of that territory for the duration of the Robber's stay, there is still the question of when the Robber moves again. What triggers it? And is this sort of twist something that our lovely platform here is equipped to facilitate?


I believe I wrote the answers to this but perhaps I am mistaken.

dannyvice wrote:Okay, but how would the Robber move around? quote]

The Robber would be a CPU player, with one turn a day. It would randomly choose one border to attack. It would attack in the same way we do with auto attack. (This means if the Robber won the other players armies are not put aside, they are off the board.)

dannyvice wrote: there is still the question of when the Robber moves again. What triggers it?


The Robber would take its turn at the end of each round, after the last person either takes their turn or misses their turn.

dannyvice wrote: And is this sort of twist something that our lovely platform here is equipped to facilitate?


I hope not, this map is having a lot of those.

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:03 pm
by dannyvice
I'm sorry. I realized after I posted that you did address almost all the questions I raised before I raised them.
What is a CPU player?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:17 am
by notkin
The computer plays, no one actually plays for the robber.

The other way it could work is that one person each round gets to control it. I like the computer playing it better though

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:06 am
by btownmeggy
The poll makes no sense. Please edit it.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:06 pm
by notkin
I know, I realized that as soon as I pressed OK, however I do not know how to edit it.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:49 pm
by Elgarion
For the online players....I liked Travian for a while...it's sorta real time and I dunno...it's pretty cool

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:16 am
by EvilOtto
notkin wrote:The computer plays, no one actually plays for the robber.

The other way it could work is that one person each round gets to control it. I like the computer playing it better though

Can't be done right now. No way to code the XML for computer players or for alternating players... or for a moving robber, random maps, etc. The XML just defines what parts of the map are countries, what countries can attack other countries, what countries are in a continent, and what the bonus is for each continent.... that's about it.

I still prefer the idea of continents matching resource usage (a brink and wood for a +1...), but if you go for each resource separately maybe you should tie them to their port (you have to own the ore port to get any ore bonuses)?

ore port + 1 ore = +1
port + 2 ore = +2
port + 3 ore = +4
port + 4 ore = +8
or something like that...