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Re: The Torah

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:53 am
by PLAYER57832
b.k. barunt wrote:
2dimes wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:Oh, and BK, far be it from me to know your heart, but just listening to you, I see no huge reason why you could not be a Christian.

I won't get into the size, might be huge, I'm sure it's adequate. The organ in question is lower than his heart. I suspect his heart pumps faster when he's using it to become one with whom ever it is that evening.


Actually that's an almost nonexistant problem with me. I'm 58, have done a lot of hard drugs, have had major traumatic injuries and i'm not as pretty as i used to be. It is rather large though, if you really must know, but i can't knock down doors with it anymore.

My huge problem is my reluctance to take shit. I walked the walk for 14 years and turned the other cheek on a regular basis - much harder for me than keeping my hands off the wimminz. It's not a matter of what you do or don't do though, it's whether you're doing your own thing or doing His thing - you're either on the bus or off the bus. A lot of delusional fuckheads think they're on the bus but the damn thing looks empty to me whenever i see it go by.

Player, if you're actually serious about confusing me with a follower of Jesus you might want to take a look at James 1:26.


Reprobate Honibaz

We are each our own harshest critics.

Re: The Torah

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:07 pm
by daddy1gringo
The Neon Peon wrote:
oddzy wrote:ok, i gotta admit i laughed when the op thought that boiling a kid in its mother's milk refered to a human child rather than a baby goat.

When did I ever say that?


In your first post:
The Neon Peon wrote:The second helped when we were reading the Torah as well, especially with the repeated text of "Thou shalt not boil a child in his mother's milk."

Re: The Torah

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:30 pm
by b.k. barunt
PLAYER57832 wrote:We are each our own harshest critics.


I hope you're not making that all inclusive. If that were true of everyone then sultan and woodruff would be embarrassed to post on this forum.


Honibaz

Re: The Torah

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:05 pm
by Khiva
PLAYER57832 wrote:
daddy1gringo wrote:
No, you are confusing "Torah" with "Talmud". "Pentateuch" is a synonym for "Torah". "Torah" is Hebrew for "the Law". "Pentateuch" is Greek for "5 books" coined by a 2nd c. Christian theologian.


here is what Wikki says on the matter (as I have said before, I don't consider it a great source except for very general information such as this)

The term "Torah" (Hebrew: תּוֹרָה, "teaching" or "instruction", sometimes translated as "law"[1]), refers either to the Five Books of Moses (or Pentateuch) or to the entirety of Judaism's founding legal and ethical religious texts.[2][3]

Note the "or". I believe this is why the confusion. In fact, my understanding is that reference to the first 5 books is mostly a Christian misunderstanding and that Jews using the term refer to the more complete definition.


I'm happy to accept B.K.'s answer, but it doesn't seem like the 'or' is a misunderstanding just a broader use of the word for closely related materials. The Pentateuch entry is a redirect to Torah. Yahoo answers says they're the same thing. The second paragraph of that entry says it's the five books that are the first third of the Tanakh, and mentions the oral tradition, Talmud, and Midrash. So my question would be if a couple of my friends and I came across a copy of the Torah, would it actually be the Tanakh, Talmud, Midrash, and whatever else or just the Pentateuch? In my local bookstore it's the Pentateuch. I can imagine the scrolls at the synagogue being more encompassing, but to me it doesn't look like the OP was referring to anything more extensive.

Re: The Torah

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:29 pm
by PLAYER57832
I am not an expert on Judaica. If I were, I would hardly have referred to Wikki.

Re: The Torah

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:40 pm
by Khiva
But isn't Wiki run by the Jews? There's no need for any of us to be an expert. Neon Peon could just tell us if the Torah he picked up wasn't just the old testament.

Re: The Torah

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:28 pm
by pimpdave
Yeah, cause Mormons are such a reliable source when it comes to the Bible. :roll: