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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:43 am
by vtmarik
wicked wrote:yes how about recipes for fooling carrot people into eating meat.

If you get tender enough cuts of meat, you can tell them that it's mushrooms. Especially if you're making something that has sauce to it.
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:57 am
by heavycola
Meat is good. One day i am going to slaughter my own food. But i don't see why pigs or chickens should have to suffer horribly for their entire lives just so we can buy their meat more cheaply.
Organic or free-range meat tastes better anyway. Factory chickens/hogs = bland, tasteless, immoral, cruel.
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:57 am
by MeDeFe
Nothing beats Argentine beef. Absolutely nothing.
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:00 am
by jay_a2j
MeDeFe wrote:Nothing beats Argentine beef. Absolutely nothing.
Except Jager Snitzel.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:14 am
by Hoff
I eat meat and love meat and believe its part of a healthy diet. The food pyramid these days are changing constantly on what you should eat the most of and what you shouldn't. My belief is that the best way to eat is to hahve a balanced diet of everything. Don't over indulge yourself too much in anyone food group and you will be healthy. People who are vegetarians say they just feel better and healthier. I believe that this mainly a mental thing. If people want to be vegetarians then thats their choice. I may find it ridiculous to an extent, but i'm certainly not gonna protest against vegetarians lol.
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:05 am
by wicked
heavycola wrote:Organic or free-range meat tastes better anyway. Factory chickens/hogs = bland, tasteless, immoral, cruel.
LMAO ... you can taste "immorality"

it's all in your mind. organic is a gimmick to charge you more for the same, but go ahead and waste your money. vegans crack me up.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:16 am
by heavycola
wicked wrote:heavycola wrote:Organic or free-range meat tastes better anyway. Factory chickens/hogs = bland, tasteless, immoral, cruel.
LMAO ... you can taste "immorality"

it's all in your mind. organic is a gimmick to charge you more for the same, but go ahead and waste your money. vegans crack me up.

What's vegan got to do with it?
It's a fact that free range chickens taste better than factory chickens. Ask any decent cook. Free range chickens move around their entire lives, which strengthens and flavours their muscles. Battery hens, by comparison, are grown in tiny cages and so end up relatively tasteless. they mature much faster and are cheaper to produce, that's all.
MeDefe - I couldn;t agree more.
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:17 am
by heavycola
strange double post shenanigans
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:20 am
by Backglass
heavycola wrote:Free range chickens move around their entire lives, which strengthens and flavours their muscles.
Some would say that makes them tougher and more "gamey". I havent had enough of them to tell the difference.
MeDeFe wrote:Nothing beats Argentine beef. Absolutely nothing.
I agree...best steak I ever had was in Buenos Aires.
Argentines worship meat.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:26 am
by salvadevinemasse
Did you guys know that in India the Cow that us americans eat is sacred and more seen as a creature of beauty/god?
I love my steak though I just wish the cow would die first then be cooked. Instead of some guy killing it, I want it to pass away naturally! you know? Show more love and compassion to the animals..
In other cultures if you eat an animal your taking in their life force. Wouldnt you rather a happy life force then a bitter mean one that could possibly make you sick? lol.
Salva-
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:43 am
by heavycola
Backglass wrote:heavycola wrote:Free range chickens move around their entire lives, which strengthens and flavours their muscles.
Some would say that makes them tougher and more "gamey". I havent had enough of them to tell the difference.
Well, for 'gaminess' read 'flavour'. A lot of people have only ever eaten battery chickens and I know a couple of people who don't like their chicken to taste of much at all. Fair enough, bit of a shame though i reckon. The only tough chicken I ever ate was overcooked...
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:14 pm
by Genghis Khant
If God had wanted us to be vegetarian, he wouldn't have made animals out of meat.
MeDeFe wrote:Nothing beats Argentine beef. Absolutely nothing.
You should try roasted panda, yum yum

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:26 pm
by MeDeFe
Can that work? You can buy bear meat in Finland, but I've heard it doesn't taste very good. Are pandas any better?
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:28 pm
by mr. incrediball
i can understand not liking meat, but this "animals are living things" stuff... aren't plants living things too? isn't vegetarianism/veganism technically racist to plants? no offence or anything, it just crossed my mind...

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:30 pm
by mr. incrediball
salvadevinemasse wrote:Did you guys know that in India the Cow that us americans eat is sacred and more seen as a creature of beauty/god?
I love my steak though I just wish the cow would die first then be cooked. Instead of some guy killing it, I want it to pass away naturally! you know? Show more love and compassion to the animals..
In other cultures if you eat an animal your taking in their life force. Wouldnt you rather a happy life force then a bitter mean one that could possibly make you sick? lol.
Salva-
natural causes could mean a diseased body, which is why the animals are killed, that and humans are naturally impatient...
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:50 pm
by Genghis Khant
mr. incrediball wrote:i can understand not liking meat, but this "animals are living things" stuff... aren't plants living things too? isn't vegetarianism/veganism technically racist to plants? no offence or anything, it just crossed my mind...

Also, vegetarians are bad for the environment. Not only does their diet make them flatulent (and methane is a greenhouse gas), but they don't eat the flatulent cows either.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:59 pm
by wicked
I had fresh lamb from a friend's farm a couple years ago, had been slaughtered a week or so before. tasted gooooooooooooood.
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:28 pm
by Stopper
mr. incrediball wrote:i can understand not liking meat, but this "animals are living things" stuff... aren't plants living things too? isn't vegetarianism/veganism technically racist to plants? no offence or anything, it just crossed my mind...

You have a point - you've just reminded me of "fruitarians" - these are people who will not eat animals or plants, except for the fruit borne by plants - that way they can avoid killing anything to get their nourishment.
Well, I say nourishment...I'm not sure how much nutrition there can be in a fruit-based diet...
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:42 pm
by areon
I've said it before, not all vegetarians are against killing animals to eat. They are vegetarian so that plants don't have to be grown to feed cattle and to lessen the impact of farming. It is wasteful to eat so much meat when you can get the same protein from fish or other sources. Then there are people who want to avoid all the antibiotics and growth hormones. My family bought our best meat from the local 4-H sales, I don't know what it is called in other areas but people would display their animals in a show before auctioning parts of them off.
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:34 pm
by vtmarik
Stopper wrote:mr. incrediball wrote:i can understand not liking meat, but this "animals are living things" stuff... aren't plants living things too? isn't vegetarianism/veganism technically racist to plants? no offence or anything, it just crossed my mind...

You have a point - you've just reminded me of "fruitarians" - these are people who will not eat animals or plants, except for the fruit borne by plants - that way they can avoid killing anything to get their nourishment.
Well, I say nourishment...I'm not sure how much nutrition there can be in a fruit-based diet...
Not only that, but fruitarians wait for the fruit to fall off the tree rather than picking it.
Imagine that. "Oh thank you tree for giving us this half moldy, worm-eaten apple. We love you tree!"
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:20 pm
by Beastly
s.xkitten wrote:no one...it was assumed since you like the seachickens....cause pretty much no one out of state likes them...
I just moved to WA... what the hell is a seachicken??? and since i live in WA now,, will I Like em...
I DON't like meat, but sure like the bone!!
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:28 pm
by Backglass
Beastly wrote:what the hell is a seachicken???
"...it's a chicken....that lives in the sea" - Jerry Seinfeld
"I hate to admit it, but yes, I swear to you, I really thought Chicken of the Sea was actually chicken." - Jessica Simpson (no joke)

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:49 pm
by P Gizzle
Beastly wrote:s.xkitten wrote:no one...it was assumed since you like the seachickens....cause pretty much no one out of state likes them...
I just moved to WA... what the hell is a seachicken??? and since i live in WA now,, will I Like em...
I DON't like meat, but sure like the bone!!
"seachickens" are the common refferal to the NFL team the Seattle Seahawks.....and you will love them....they are awesome....but PLEASE don't eat them....
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:42 pm
by TimTheEnchanter
[quote="Genghis Khant"]
If God had wanted us to be vegetarian, he wouldn't have made animals out of meat.
I'm made out of meat. Eat me!

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:56 pm
by s.xkitten
Beastly wrote:s.xkitten wrote:no one...it was assumed since you like the seachickens....cause pretty much no one out of state likes them...
I just moved to WA... what the hell is a seachicken??? and since i live in WA now,, will I Like em...
I DON't like meat, but sure like the bone!!
seachickens would be the nickname of the seahawks...the football team...also sometimes known as the seasucks