padsta wrote:We should give it to the winner of Salita v Khan
We should give it to the Scientologists and Mormons so the Muslims and Jews hate them both and start "holy wars" against them rather than each other.
Mormons are okay...lets just give it to the Scientologist. Actually..i figured we should just nuke the place. Then they could all f*ck off and shut up. We'll turn it into a radioactive location that no human can survive for 1000's of years....
drop a nuclear bomb on muslims. what an absolutely splend...ahem... horrid notion indeed.
well, I don't want to kill anybody. Have them all move out of the area, and then bomb it. Then they can stop fighting over some stupid piece of land.
GabonX wrote:You guys realize that in order to ''give'' it to anyone you have to take it from the Jews first.. Good luck with that
Regardless of whether or not the creation of Israel was right (it was) at this point there is an established population of several generations which you would have to expel.
Diaspora II: UN Edition..
Interestingly enough, that's how this current Nation of Israel was created sixty years ago...lmao, it was an established population of Muslims who were expelled. I've got no particular love for the Muslim community, but, these things happen.
The Muslim population was not expelled. Their descendants live in Israel to this day and they have full rights as citizens. They even have a political party in Israeli parliament known as the Balad party. Palestinians who supported the destruction of Israel and aided the coalition of Arab states in their assault were expelled.
You should write propaganda. Yours isn't good, but it's good enough.
I think hes just good at regurgitating propaganda, not at using his own intelligence to primarily decieve others.
GabonX wrote:You guys realize that in order to ''give'' it to anyone you have to take it from the Jews first.. Good luck with that
Regardless of whether or not the creation of Israel was right (it was) at this point there is an established population of several generations which you would have to expel.
Diaspora II: UN Edition..
Interestingly enough, that's how this current Nation of Israel was created sixty years ago...lmao, it was an established population of Muslims who were expelled. I've got no particular love for the Muslim community, but, these things happen.
The Muslim population was not expelled. Their descendants live in Israel to this day and they have full rights as citizens. They even have a political party in Israeli parliament known as the Balad party. Palestinians who supported the destruction of Israel and aided the coalition of Arab states in their assault were expelled.
You should write propaganda. Yours isn't good, but it's good enough.
I think hes just good at regurgitating propaganda, not at using his own intelligence to primarily decieve others.
haha, you're completely right, and I stand corrected.
The Arabs and Jews have not been the only ones fighting over that little stretch of land:
A Partial Chronology of Judah-Cum-Palestine 70 - The Romans conquer Jerusalem. 132-136 - Jewish revolt under Bar Kochba; final defeat of Judah and loss of political sovereignty. 351 - Jewish revolt to end foreign rule; Roman Empire adopts Christianity. 395 - Palestine part of the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire, still called Judea or Judah. 438 - Empress Eudocia allows Jews back to Temple site, misinterpreted by Jews as return to nationhood. 614 - Persian conquest under Chosroes (with the support of a Jewish army). 628 – Palestine reconquered by the Byzantines. 633-637 – Arab conquest; shortly afterward, attempt by Jews to restore their nation. 639 – Muawiyah Arab governor. 660 – Muawiyah is made the first Omayyad Caliph of Damascus. 750 – Last Omayyad Caliph defeated; reign of the Abbassid Caliphs of Baghdad (Persiah, Turk, Circassian, Kurd). 878 - Ahmad, b. Tulun, a Turkish general and governor ofEgypt, conquers Palestine; reign of the Tulunides (Turks). 904 – The Abbassids of Baghdad reconquer Palestine. 906 – Inroads of the Carmathians 934 – The Egyptian Ikhshidi princes conquer Palestine; their reign begins. 969 – The Fatimid Caliphs of Cairo conquer Palestine. 969-971 – War with the Carmathians. 970-976 – Byzantine invasion. 1070-1080 – Seljuk Turks conquer Palestine. 1099 – The Crusaders conquer Jerusalem, massacre the Jewish and Muslim populations; reign in parts of Palestine until 1291. 1187 – Saladin of Damascus, a Kurd, captures Jerusalem and the greater part of Palestine. 1244 – The Kharezmians, instigated by Genghis Khan, invade Palestine; Jerusalem’s population is slaughter, the city is sacked. 1260 – Mongol invasion; Jerusalem sacked. 1291 – End of the Latin (Crusaders) Kingdom. 1299-1303 Mongol invasion. 1516-1517 – The Ottomans conquer Palestine. 1799 – Napoleon conquers Palestine, but is defeated at Acre. 1831 – Ibrahim Pasha, adopted son of Egypt’s Viceroy, occupies Palestine. 1840 – Ibrahim Pasha compelled by the Powers to leave Palestine; Turkish rule restored. 1840 on – English writers and statesmen begin to discuss the possibility of a Jewish restoration. 1871-1882 – First Jewish agricultural settlements. 1909 – Foundation of the all-Jewish city of Tel Aviv. 1917-1918 – Allies occupy the whole of Palestine, east and west of the Jordan River; British military administration, end of Ottoman reign. 1917-1918 – Balfour Declaration granting “Jewish Homeland” Internationally approved. 1920 – British (pre-Mandate) civil administration; Turkish sovereignty renounced, treaty includes Balfour Declaration. 1922 – Palestine Mandate; Jewish National Home confirmed. 1923 – Palestine Mandate comes into operation. 1923 – Seventy-five percent of Palestine is set aside as an independent Arab “Palestinian” state, Transjordan. 1925 – Hebrew University of Jerusalem opened. 1929 – Arab revolt. 1936-1939 – Arab revolt and civil war. 1946 – Establishment of Arab state of Transjordan. 1948 – End of Mandate for Palestine; establishment of State of Israel; Arab-Jewish war. 1948 - Eastern Palestine—Transjordan—occupies the West Bank area of Western Palestine, becomes “Jordan,” constituting over eighty percent of Palestine. *Compiled from data of Hogarth, Hitti, Leish, Frankenstein, Katz, Guillaume, Parkes, Ben-Sasson, Anglo-American Survey (1946), pp.1-86, particularly pp. 1, 4, 5, 13, 14.
GabonX wrote:You guys realize that in order to ''give'' it to anyone you have to take it from the Jews first.. Good luck with that
Regardless of whether or not the creation of Israel was right (it was) at this point there is an established population of several generations which you would have to expel.
Diaspora II: UN Edition..
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Titanic wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
GabonX wrote:
nesterdude wrote:Interestingly enough, that's how this current Nation of Israel was created sixty years ago...lmao, it was an established population of Muslims who were expelled. I've got no particular love for the Muslim community, but, these things happen.
The Muslim population was not expelled. Their descendants live in Israel to this day and they have full rights as citizens. They even have a political party in Israeli parliament known as the Balad party. Palestinians who supported the destruction of Israel and aided the coalition of Arab states in their assault were expelled.
You should write propaganda. Yours isn't good, but it's good enough.
I think hes just good at regurgitating propaganda, not at using his own intelligence to primarily decieve others.
haha, you're completely right, and I stand corrected.
If the Israeli position was to expel the Arab population, Arabs would not currently have a political party in Israeli parliament. It is a fact that they do.
You can call this propaganda if you want to..
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...I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.
Why can't all you monotheistic whackos just agree on one. According to all the literature you all believe in the same "god". The muslim "god" is the same as the jewish "god". Yet differences in the interpretation means you must kill each other.
And I quote: "The Bahá'í Faith is a monotheistic religion founded by Bahá'u'lláh in nineteenth-century Persia, emphasizing thespiritual unity of all humankind."
It's one of the latest offshoots of your supposedly peaceful religion.
Can't all you psychos just agree to disagree and leave the world in peace??
(Please note all non-capitalizations were on purpose.)
neanderpaul14 wrote:Why can't all you monotheistic whackos just agree on one. According to all the literature you all believe in the same "god". The muslim "god" is the same as the jewish "god". Yet differences in the interpretation means you must kill each other.
And I quote: "The Bahá'í Faith is a monotheistic religion founded by Bahá'u'lláh in nineteenth-century Persia, emphasizing thespiritual unity of all humankind."
It's one of the latest offshoots of your supposedly peaceful religion.
Can't all you psychos just agree to disagree and leave the world in peace??
(Please note all non-capitalizations were on purpose.)
neanderpaul14 wrote:Why can't all you monotheistic whackos just agree on one. According to all the literature you all believe in the same "god". The muslim "god" is the same as the jewish "god". Yet differences in the interpretation means you must kill each other.
And I quote: "The Bahá'í Faith is a monotheistic religion founded by Bahá'u'lláh in nineteenth-century Persia, emphasizing thespiritual unity of all humankind."
It's one of the latest offshoots of your supposedly peaceful religion.
Can't all you psychos just agree to disagree and leave the world in peace??
(Please note all non-capitalizations were on purpose.)
There's still going to be different ethnicities.
Oh please if you believe in GOD there can only be ONE
bedub1 wrote:I understand that these two groups have never gotten along. Do muslims hate jews as much as jews hate muslims? Do jews hate muslims as much as muslims hate jews? Who hates more? Do muslims hate jews and the jews are just like "muslims are okay"?
Whats the history of the promised land? The muslims had it, then the jews, then the muslims, then the jews? Who has it now?
Re: Americans and Mexicans
I understand that these two groups have never gotten along. Do Mexicans hate Americans as much as Americans hate Mexicans? Do Americans hate mexicans as much as Mexicans hate Americans? Who hates more? Do Mexicans hate Americans and the Americans are just like "Mexicans are okay."?
What's the history of California? The Mexicans had it. then the Americans, then the Mexicans, then the Americans? Who has it now?
GabonX wrote:You guys realize that in order to ''give'' it to anyone you have to take it from the Jews first.. Good luck with that
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You should write propaganda. Yours isn't good, but it's good enough.
I think hes just good at regurgitating propaganda, not at using his own intelligence to primarily decieve others.
haha, you're completely right, and I stand corrected.
[/quote] Wow, I'm just calling a spade a spade For all I care, muslims/jews can just have at it. I'm Irish. And yes, there are muslims still there, but the majority were pushed out of the "promised land" into other parts of what is now outside of Israel. This isnt' secret information. Propaganda, phaw.
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