Conquer Club

Derf I think we need another batch of prods and a couple of replacements...

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:I disagree with that sounding scummy. We had two deaths last night with one of them definitely coming from a mafia kill(janitor bit) and the other coming from a possible 3rd party sk or else failed recruiting by the mason. This tells me that animo is just continueing to be a random knucklehead in games and is not scum since obviously kills still happened without him doing his "action".

FOS at Space for not thinking it out.

This really bothers me. This assumes that he actually didn't do anything at night. How do you know he didn't. How do you know he isn't just lying to cover himself up. And why the quick vote for someone suspecting that? What animo did, with an explanation comming later, seemed scummy with out a doubt, and you were qick to cover it up. Why the quick vote without letting animo give the explanation. Did you already know, becuase it would seem so. And then what would seem to be an even stronger conviction of telling me that I did not think it out. What was there to think. All that was was a pretty scummy statement. That just really seemed like a quick cover up, and then a distraction by trying to get people to vote for me.

Not to mention that animo has already seemed to select me as the bomb target without even bothering to find out my roll, which seems silly, but if it does go off on day 3 you had better get rid of it.

Vote spurgistan becuase he has not posted in a long while.

1. Animo is a well known dumbfck in mafia. it doesn't in the least surprise me if he would forget to do his action and would say something that stupid. 2. what vote are you referring to since on the quote I just gave you a FOS? 3. animo has to put it on someone and might as well put it on someone that he thinks is scum. offhand i'm not sure if you are or not hence why i only gave you a FOS, but i wouldn't be surprised if you were.

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:1. Animo is a well known dumbfck in mafia. it doesn't in the least surprise me if he would forget to do his action and would say something that stupid. 2. what vote are you referring to since on the quote I just gave you a FOS? 3. animo has to put it on someone and might as well put it on someone that he thinks is scum. offhand i'm not sure if you are or not hence why i only gave you a FOS, but i wouldn't be surprised if you were.

what is an fos, and once you put my name in bold, does that not count as a vote?

spaceghst44 wrote:

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:1. Animo is a well known dumbfck in mafia. it doesn't in the least surprise me if he would forget to do his action and would say something that stupid. 2. what vote are you referring to since on the quote I just gave you a FOS? 3. animo has to put it on someone and might as well put it on someone that he thinks is scum. offhand i'm not sure if you are or not hence why i only gave you a FOS, but i wouldn't be surprised if you were.

what is an fos, and once you put my name in bold, does that not count as a vote?

FOS=Finger Of Suspicion and even if bold, it is not a vote unless he says vote.

Also, space, you are starting to seem somewhat scummyish...

I mean lynching off the inactives usually helps the mafia more than anybody else.

spiesr wrote:I mean lynching off the inactives usually helps the mafia more than anybody else.

I always heard that people who were inactive were usually scum and trying not to be active and give away a tell.

Plus it is only one vote, not nearly enough to lynch, and it might make them become more active.

spaceghst44 wrote:

spiesr wrote:I mean lynching off the inactives usually helps the mafia more than anybody else.

I always heard that people who were inactive were usually scum and trying not to be active and give away a tell.

That doesn't mean every SINGLE person who doesn't post is scum.

animorpherv1 wrote:

spaceghst44 wrote:

spiesr wrote:I mean lynching off the inactives usually helps the mafia more than anybody else.

I always heard that people who were inactive were usually scum and trying not to be active and give away a tell.

That doesn't mean every SINGLE person who doesn't post is scum.

I know that is why I only voted for 1 of them

spaceghst44 wrote:

spiesr wrote:I mean lynching off the inactives usually helps the mafia more than anybody else.

I always heard that people who were inactive were usually scum and trying not to be active and give away a tell.

That is what the scum want you to think...

well I am still new because I have only played in 2 mafia games and both of them are still going.

Where did everybody go?
MASS PROD please.

Or, space, we could be inactive cos he was busy in RL

very true.

unvote

so while we wait for prods, what do the active people think?

That bolt was quite active day 1 but now has dropped off the face off the earth.
Hiding because the person whose lynch he supported was town? Possibly
Just inactive due to inactivity? Likely

As I said, Bolt was accusing thezz every single page after page six last phase, now every sign points to Thezz being town, even with an unknown role, just the fact he was killed by a mafia janitor assures him as not being mafia.
Bolt even made this post (which contains the subtle doubt that would allow him to escape his responsibility as he was obviously wrong)

Its Bolt wrote:I actually am not even sure that Thezz knows why I am voting him at this point given his last few posts. The fact remains that Thezz is doing nothing to help the town at this point, and instead has just taken up bitching at me as a hobby. I am nearly ready at this point to flat out say if Thezz is town you can just lynch me tomorrow given how sure I am over this. He has hit almost every single newbie scum tell in the book, and shows no sign of wanting to help the town

Even after pushing so strong, for so long that essentially everyone would bandwaggon with him just to get it over with, now he would dare say that anyone who bandwaggoned is exactly as guilty as he is?

Its Bolt wrote:

spiesr wrote:vote its bolt for his actions of yesterday.
Let's get some discussion going here people...

You voted with me if I remember right... this case against me couldnt be more WIFOM if you tried.

Look scum are going to be space, starting to think spies, then probably a lurker who everyone is just ignoring

That and the second sentence doesn't make any sense no matter how it's looked at. It's simply a confusion to throw everyone off.

can you clarify this for me? is it possible that there could be a janitor who is not mafia, like a janitor serial killer or a third party or is that way out there? I have never heard of a janitor roll before, is it just someone who kills and then hides the persons roll he kills? Because if that is the case, it seems odd to have a janitor at all because you would always know that the person killed was town because only the mafia has a janitor. This seems odd but I am still trying to figure out the ins and outs of CC mafia.

Well the role is for mafia, it's the most common role to have a hidden kill, I suppose it's possible for there to be a town or third party with that ability, but in that case, it would be a new role, that hasn't been or is rarely used.
The benefit of a janitor is that it gives the town less info, for example, night one a mafia cop investigates the town doc, the following night the janitor kills the doc, now since the town doesn't know the doc is dead the mafia can safely claim doc later in the game. (of course this can be disproven by most investigative roles, if they are left in the game.)
Even without a mafia cop, the role still has it's uses, as it is vital for town to gain knowledge through lynches and deaths.

/ wrote:Well the role is for mafia, it's the most common role to have a hidden kill, I suppose it's possible for there to be a town or third party with that ability, but in that case, it would be a new role, that hasn't been or is rarely used.
The benefit of a janitor is that it gives the town less info, for example, night one a mafia cop investigates the town doc, the following night the janitor kills the doc, now since the town doesn't know the doc is dead the mafia can safely claim doc later in the game. (of course this can be disproven by most investigative roles, if they are left in the game.)
Even without a mafia cop, the role still has it's uses, as it is vital for town to gain knowledge through lynches and deaths.

so then the mafia knows the role of the person they kill and it is just not shown to the rest of us?

I don't think so, not the normal role at least, although I used a similar role that could last game I modded.

/ wrote:As I said, Bolt was accusing thezz every single page after page six last phase, now every sign points to Thezz being town, even with an unknown role, just the fact he was killed by a mafia janitor assures him as not being mafia.
Bolt even made this post (which contains the subtle doubt that would allow him to escape his responsibility as he was obviously wrong)

Its Bolt wrote:I actually am not even sure that Thezz knows why I am voting him at this point given his last few posts. The fact remains that Thezz is doing nothing to help the town at this point, and instead has just taken up bitching at me as a hobby. I am nearly ready at this point to flat out say if Thezz is town you can just lynch me tomorrow given how sure I am over this. He has hit almost every single newbie scum tell in the book, and shows no sign of wanting to help the town

Pushing a case and using symbolism to show how much I believe his case makes me scum how here? If I got lynched every time I pushed for a lynch of a player that ended up being town, I would actually get lynched quite a bit.

Even after pushing so strong, for so long that essentially everyone would bandwaggon with him just to get it over with, now he would dare say that anyone who bandwaggoned is exactly as guilty as he is?

Its Bolt wrote:

spiesr wrote:vote its bolt for his actions of yesterday.
Let's get some discussion going here people...

You voted with me if I remember right... this case against me couldnt be more WIFOM if you tried.

Look scum are going to be space, starting to think spies, then probably a lurker who everyone is just ignoring

That and the second sentence doesn't make any sense no matter how it's looked at. It's simply a confusion to throw everyone off.

First that quote is partially ripped out of context. Spies had earlier voted me for having made the Thezz case, which he heartily agreed with. If he is going to use the "voted Thezz" as part of a case, it applies to him just as much. Also how is the last line confusing? I said mafia are space, spies and someone else, likely a lurker. If you lynch me just lynch/vig these people and town should win pretty quick

Oh, I was a bit tired when I read that, I thought you meant "spies" as in a plural of "spy", not spiesr.
Anyways, I still think you are too quick to conclude the case, perhaps the "scum tells" you describe have worked for you before to win on other sites, but here, from personal experience, the games are resolved more by actions than one or two posts.
I don't see how you can be so sure everyone is scum, going so far as to conclude the entire mafia on the second day, even accusing space one page after replacement, it's overconfident, I still feel you are very likely scum.

Its Bolt wrote:

/ wrote:As I said, Bolt was accusing thezz every single page after page six last phase, now every sign points to Thezz being town, even with an unknown role, just the fact he was killed by a mafia janitor assures him as not being mafia.
Bolt even made this post (which contains the subtle doubt that would allow him to escape his responsibility as he was obviously wrong)

Its Bolt wrote:I actually am not even sure that Thezz knows why I am voting him at this point given his last few posts. The fact remains that Thezz is doing nothing to help the town at this point, and instead has just taken up bitching at me as a hobby. I am nearly ready at this point to flat out say if Thezz is town you can just lynch me tomorrow given how sure I am over this. He has hit almost every single newbie scum tell in the book, and shows no sign of wanting to help the town

Pushing a case and using symbolism to show how much I believe his case makes me scum how here? If I got lynched every time I pushed for a lynch of a player that ended up being town, I would actually get lynched quite a bit.

You stuck out your neck saying that we could lynch you over this and if you expect to squirm out of it because of "symbolism" you've got another thing coming. Even if Thezz happened to be a SK it's safe to assume he's not mafia. You have been overly aggressive towards Thezz trying to go off of very little. Don't think you say stupid things without consequences. Unvote (If needed) Vote Its Bolt.

/ wrote:Oh, I was a bit tired when I read that, I thought you meant "spies" as in a plural of "spy", not spiesr.
Anyways, I still think you are too quick to conclude the case, perhaps the "scum tells" you describe have worked for you before to win on other sites, but here, from personal experience, the games are resolved more by actions than one or two posts.
I don't see how you can be so sure everyone is scum, going so far as to conclude the entire mafia on the second day, even accusing space one page after replacement, it's overconfident, I still feel you are very likely scum.

He still hasn't beat Mandy and his causing 75 pages on day 1 in Sherwood.