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Conquer Club • Logic dictates that there is a God! - Page 82
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:55 pm
by vtmarik
unriggable wrote:Don't forget the cow who created the gods!

Also flood is a common theme - the Inuits all have a flood story of their own. Could be a common thing in human nature to explain rain or snow.


Yes, the great cow who licked the ice encasing the giant Ymir, thus freeing him, I'd forgotten about that part.

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:57 pm
by unriggable
Actually a lot of English christianity comes from Norse myth - the ruler of the underworld was called Hel, for example...

umm

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:07 pm
by WL_southerner
you for got the big one from norse myth the drinking and eatting the blood and heart from the dragon ( last supper take this wine for it is my blood eat this bread for this is my body )
for those who dont know the viking are a gealic tribe

Re: umm

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:10 pm
by vtmarik
WL_southerner wrote:you for got the big one from norse myth the drinking and eatting the blood and heart from the dragon ( last supper take this wine for it is my blood eat this bread for this is my body )
for those who dont know the viking are a gealic tribe


I don't remember anything about eating a heart from a dragon, and I've got a few books of norse legends in my library.

And I didn't know that the Gaelic people extended to Scandinavia.

umm

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:24 pm
by WL_southerner
the story of the dragon blood and heart is told in the isle of man a viking island
before the roman empire gealic tribes started in north spain though most of france along the north side of the alps and when far east has far has romana and north
there was all them diffrent tribes all fighting one another maybe why it was so easy for the romans to conquer southern europe britain being the last place they conquered and the first place they left, so when the pits,danes (vikings) anglos, jutes and saxons came back to britain they killed all romans that was left

Re: umm

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:30 pm
by Guiscard
WL_southerner wrote:the story of the dragon blood and heart is told in the isle of man a viking island
before the roman empire gealic tribes started in north spain though most of france along the north side of the alps and when far east has far has romana and north
there was all them diffrent tribes all fighting one another maybe why it was so easy for the romans to conquer southern europe britain being the last place they conquered and the first place they left, so when the pits,danes (vikings) anglos, jutes and saxons came back to britain they killed all romans that was left


Erm... not quite historically sound but you're on the right track.

umm

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:41 pm
by WL_southerner
whitch is not Guiscard please tell me so i can recheck

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:50 pm
by Guiscard
Well the origin of the celts is constantly debated in historical scholarship, but its certainly not Iberia.

As for the later invading peoples they certainly didn't 'kill all romans that was left.' The Roman's had pretty much withdrawn by then, leaving 'romanised' Britons in many areas. Indeed, there were probably never that many romans to begin with, mostly military and administrative (unlike other European territories where more steady emigration was evident).

umm

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:00 pm
by WL_southerner
the the aria up a around bay of bisca (bilbo ) northern spain was controlled by the gauls they extended in france and the fracs had the rest central and north france the aira around the med the greeks then romans took over
any one who had black hair wrong colour skin where killed in britain when the roman troops left

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:01 pm
by vtmarik
Weren't the gauls and francs of an indo-european descent, leaning more towards mesopotamia and mid-eurasia?

umm

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:04 pm
by WL_southerner
there hair, eyes and skin colour say no

Re: umm

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:09 pm
by Guiscard
WL_southerner wrote:there hair, eyes and skin colour say no


but a lot of scholarly opinion says 'yes' I'm afriad. This is a major theory supported by many, and it is pretty convincing. There is some evidence that the Celts were Circaesir from Circaesya, who lived on the 'Sea of Grass' in what is now Kazakhstan.

As for this:

black hair wrong colour skin where killed in britain when the roman troops left


It may have been the case in a few incidents but certainly not in general. Any sources whatsoever? Sounds a bit like you've been reading a 'Romans' kids history book type of thing.

Also, off topic, is English your first language southerner?

umm

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:19 pm
by WL_southerner
it seems why the gealic looks are so diffrent from the rest of homo sapiens is that they cross bred with neanderthal man there is dna proof of this now

Re: umm

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:48 pm
by Guiscard
WL_southerner wrote:it seems why the gealic looks are so diffrent from the rest of homo sapiens is that they cross bred with neanderthal man there is dna proof of this now


hmm... source??

edit: If you're referring to the skeleton they found in Portugal, its certainly not DNA proof, more the lack of it. The skeleton may have had similar physical features, but there have been no major similarities found between the mitochondrial DNA of Neanderthals and Humans.

umm

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:00 pm
by WL_southerner
for get who it was but it from the anthroplogy dept up in oxford uni but they spent some thing 15 years taken dna samples 10 years of that was wasted because they only took dna from northern and western europains here in europe and over in america it was not till some said go east into west asia did they find the dna marker was missing
whitch makes sence look at most of homo sapiens they have black hair and are of dark skin or olive colour skin

Re: umm

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:07 pm
by Guiscard
WL_southerner wrote:for get who it was but it from the anthroplogy dept up in oxford uni but they spent some thing 15 years taken dna samples 10 years of that was wasted because they only took dna from northern and western europains here in europe and over in america it was not till some said go east into west asia did they find the dna marker was missing
whitch makes sence look at most of homo sapiens they have black hair and are of dark skin or olive colour skin


No idea what you are trying to say here.

umm

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:19 pm
by WL_southerner
well they was going to declare that neanderhal man went extinct after ten years work, then some one thrown a spanner in there works by saying try going west, it was there they noticed that that there was a diffrence in the human part of the dna,gaelic people have a one tiny part of there dna diffrent,

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:34 pm
by flashleg8
WL-southerner:

Don't know about this Neanderthal cross-breeding in Gaels (although I have heard somewhere that Neanderthals possibly interbred with Humans).
But I think you are confusing the terms Gaels and Celts. Celts did not belong to one single culture - this is really just a term applied by the Romans to describe the peoples of Gaul and beyond. Although these tribes shared some similar cultural ideas and some shared roots of languages they were not united and would certainly not have used that term to identify themselves.

umm

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:47 pm
by WL_southerner
you find the gauls where first talk about by the greeks, romans refere to all celtic tribes has barrians
the gaul tribe had red to dark brown hair same has britain and fracs

Re: umm

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:06 am
by flashleg8
WL_southerner wrote:the gaul tribe had red to dark brown hair same has britain and fracs


Once again I must say that these tribes were not united, they are a mixture of many different races that have mixed at different times due to invasions or cultural contact through trading etc. The Gaulish tribes were not united and had many different origins from migrations of tribes. The red hair you talk about is a recessive gene which has spread with the movement of tribes, but those people would have had as mixed hair colours then as they do now. It is simply not correct to state that all Gaels would have red hair.

umm

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:43 pm
by WL_southerner
i said there hair was red to d/brown. all the gealic tribes where that war with each other alot of the time, in brittain alone there was over 20 diffrent gaelic tribes
homo sapiens had black hair where has neanderthal was brown hair in colour
they both got into europe dirrent ways neanderthal man came across the land bridge at north/west africa to spain at the end of the 2nd from last ice age while homo spapiens man came up though north/east africa though to europe ( must have be the garden of eden to them ) at the end of the last ice age

Re: umm

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:54 pm
by flashleg8
WL_southerner wrote:homo sapiens had black hair where has neanderthal was brown hair in colour


How could you possibly know that?

Re: umm

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:21 pm
by 2dimes
flashleg8 wrote:
WL_southerner wrote:homo sapiens had black hair where has neanderthal was brown hair in colour


How could you possibly know that?
Artist's rendering.

Re: umm

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:22 pm
by flashleg8
2dimes wrote:
flashleg8 wrote:
WL_southerner wrote:homo sapiens had black hair where has neanderthal was brown hair in colour


How could you possibly know that?
Artist's rendering.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

umm

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:12 am
by WL_southerner
by dna mapping,plus they have a neantheal man body in the london natrual history museum that was found in hard peat in somerset