Conquer Club

Posted: **Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:15 pm**

Just received a PM confirmation from PMC, and my role is tracker. Not sure if that's going to change your mind at all simon, and I wish PMC could confirm it in a post; but I am a tracker. The only thing I am in on is trying to kill members of the mafia, and I would hardly consider that a conspiracy.

Posted: **Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:56 pm**

unvote

So falko, you can communicate with the doctor at night, but you have no abilities unless the doctor is killed, correct? That is still a very valuable position (and also reveals that we do have a doctor, which is great news). Do you know if the doctor protected Ace last night? That might prove that a roleblocker was involved. Or, as Simon said, maybe Ace tried to investigate Simon and randomly got shot (that is a cool role!).

Posted: **Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:27 pm**

Falkomagno wrote:Well...I see a hazard position for town here.

I'm gonna claim.

My role is the Nurse Mason. that means we know each other with the doctor, and I would received doctor abilities if he's murdered. I'm willing to protect his identity, but if you find necessary he can show himself.

And now I, (and Doctor of course) know something.

First, I'm right now at L-2. With 2 scum around, is a very vulnerable position for me and for town, because if scum is not in my BW already, they could win this game already. So,that leave us in those possible scenarios:

1. One of the people in my BW is scum.
2. Two of the people in my BW are scum
3. The scum is outhere and didn't realized that they can win already.

I really don't see scenario 3 as real, because the players not voting already are neanderpaul and suspect. the first a very active postman, the last an experienced mafia player.

So, if you are town, please unvote, at least to avoid the possibility of a mafia quicklynch.

The most opportunistic vote in my BW is the Funzy penguin one. And his lack of information, even targeting Ace is bad looking.

But I see the SV behaviour suspicious too. adn sully doing a great job, but not for that clear of all suspicious.

vote Fuzzy penguin

we are at lynch or lose. there is no point in hiding someone's identity, because if we do not get this right, the town loses. especially if you can take their place and give us another night of protection. The tracker can always watch you and see who kills you. Also, is there a bus driver? did anyone use actions on Fuzzy?

If we lynch the wrong person we all lose. So please Dr. Come out and exlpain what actions you took at night.

Falko, your role sounds really weird, especially since we had two cops. now we have two dr's? We need put puzzle peices together so as much information as we can get we need.

If someone does not come forward and back your claim, I am voting you.

Posted: **Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:52 pm**

here are the claims we have:

Falko - Nurse Mason, who even though we are at Lynch or lose has not given us all the information he claims to have, which is scummy.

Fuzzy - Tracker, who had trouble remembering his role, funny he claimed a role that could exist in mafia, but then did not name himself correcttly.

Simon - PGO, who claims Ace visited him and got shot by accident, yet in the night scene it states that the mafia struck again, not that he was killed by accident, so maybe Simon is a Mafia PGO.

Anyway, all three of these look like scum.

I would like to have more information before I make my vote, so please comment on the above everyone.

Posted: **Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:00 pm**

I don't know what else to say, other than that I was confused about the name of my role (but not the description) before, but after PMC PMed me my role name again earlier today (I accidentally deleted the message before) I verified that I am a tracker. I know there's nothing within the rules I can do to convince you completely, but I am a tracker. I can track anybody you'd like tonight if you don't lynch me; but lynching me is lynching a townsperson.

If a doctor doesn't claim, my vote will stay with falko...the role seems kind of strange to me.

Posted: **Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:37 pm**

The Fuzzy Pengui wrote:
Stroop wrote:A watcher gets to know who else visited their target.

If you are a watcher, and you targeted Ace, you should have gotten at least one name as a result; the killer's. So, this claim is fake, and you are scum.

unvote vote The Fuzzy Pengui

Stroop it wouldn't really make any sense for me to claim something right now that would put me in way of suspicion (especially since we're already down two pro-town folk). All I can tell you is that my role consists of targeting somebody to watch, and in return I receive the name of a person they visit/target; but not the action that is performed. That sounds like a watcher role to me, but I could be mistaken (and I don't have my PM from PMC anymore).

PMC, am I allowed to PM you for a role confirmation to make sure I said the right role?

Yeah it doesn't make much sense for Fuzzy to just draw attention to himself for no reason.

Posted: **Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:07 pm**

Falkomagno wrote:Well...I see a hazard position for town here.

I'm gonna claim.

My role is the Nurse Mason. that means we know each other with the doctor, and I would received doctor abilities if he's murdered. I'm willing to protect his identity, but if you find necessary he can show himself.

And now I, (and Doctor of course) know something.

First, I'm right now at L-2. With 2 scum around, is a very vulnerable position for me and for town, because if scum is not in my BW already, they could win this game already. So,that leave us in those possible scenarios:

1. One of the people in my BW is scum.
2. Two of the people in my BW are scum
3. The scum is outhere and didn't realized that they can win already.

I really don't see scenario 3 as real, because the players not voting already are neanderpaul and suspect. the first a very active postman, the last an experienced mafia player.

So, if you are town, please unvote, at least to avoid the possibility of a mafia quicklynch.

The most opportunistic vote in my BW is the Funzy penguin one. And his lack of information, even targeting Ace is bad looking.

But I see the SV behaviour suspicious too. adn sully doing a great job, but not for that clear of all suspicious.

vote Fuzzy penguin

Ok Falko is lying and he must be scum I am the doctor and he claims I should know him as the nurse, he is lying.

Vote Falko

Posted: **Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:11 pm**

Suspect101 wrote:
If we lynch the wrong person we all lose. So please Dr. Come out and exlpain what actions you took at night.

Sadly I thought Ace was lying and protected the wrong person.

My apologies for the triple post :oops:

Posted: **Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:38 pm**

Suspect101 wrote:here are the claims we have:
Simon - PGO, who claims Ace visited him and got shot by accident, yet in the night scene it states that the mafia struck again, not that he was killed by accident, so maybe Simon is a Mafia PGO.

Actually I don't know that he visited me, I just thought it from the night scene that he suspected I was in on more than I seemed and went to my house.
Here's the night scene:

pmchugh wrote:AceAremtis was pondering the previous day's actions, he must find out who was doing this to the town. As he approached the house of the man he suspected he heard a noise behind him. He turned quickly but saw no-one and continued towards his prey. BANG! a shot rang out through the night and AceArtemis crumpled to the ground, the mafia had struck again. The town woke again to the screams of the women and another dead body on the floor.

AceArtemis (insane cop) is dead.

True, I guess it says it was the mafia, but I kinda guessed that it was from visiting me from the words of the night scene.

I also think neanderpaul is scum, claiming a power role at lynch or lose is pretty scummy, I'll wait to see if anyone else counter-claims.

Posted: **Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:54 pm**

neanderpaul14 wrote:
Falkomagno wrote:Well...I see a hazard position for town here.

I'm gonna claim.

My role is the Nurse Mason. that means we know each other with the doctor, and I would received doctor abilities if he's murdered. I'm willing to protect his identity, but if you find necessary he can show himself.

And now I, (and Doctor of course) know something.

First, I'm right now at L-2. With 2 scum around, is a very vulnerable position for me and for town, because if scum is not in my BW already, they could win this game already. So,that leave us in those possible scenarios:

1. One of the people in my BW is scum.
2. Two of the people in my BW are scum
3. The scum is outhere and didn't realized that they can win already.

I really don't see scenario 3 as real, because the players not voting already are neanderpaul and suspect. the first a very active postman, the last an experienced mafia player.

So, if you are town, please unvote, at least to avoid the possibility of a mafia quicklynch.

The most opportunistic vote in my BW is the Funzy penguin one. And his lack of information, even targeting Ace is bad looking.

But I see the SV behaviour suspicious too. adn sully doing a great job, but not for that clear of all suspicious.

vote Fuzzy penguin

Ok Falko is lying and he must be scum I am the doctor and he claims I should know him as the nurse, he is lying.

Vote Falko

No you are the liar. I know for a fact that falko is the nurse and that he has been talking to the doctor. Why? Because I am that doctor! We are also mason partners. I can post all of our PMs if you want proof!

He and I had agreed to not reveal my identity (sorry falko) because we knew that if my role was revealed the mafia would target me tonight and I couldn't protect myself, however I will not let my mason partner be lynched because you are claiming him to be a liar. Especially in this lynch or lose situation.

Now, falko and I have been deliberating, and I came up with some pretty hard-hitting evidence against fuzzy and sully. He was going to post it all so that I wouldn't be a target for the mafia. This is what I told him to say:

falko would have wrote:I have been discussing with the doctor who is my mason-partner about the current situation and we have come to some interesting conclusions. We believe we have unequivocal evidence that fuzzy is in fact scum. The doctor still wishes to remain unknown however because if he reveals his role, he will most definitely be targetted by the mafia tonight and he cannot protect himself.

Now, if you look back on the voting history, I was at L-2 for a little while. This would be the perfect opportunity for the mafia to quicklynch me, but they didn't. The only reason for this could be because their members were already in on the bandwagon. The people voting for me were simon, sully, and the penguin. Now, in order for the mafia to be unable to quicklynch me, there would have to already have been two of their members in my bandwagon. This alone gives us a 66% chance that fuzzy is scum. Plus, if you look at their recent posts, you will see that sully has been defending fuzzy. Does anyone else see the correlation?

Plus, although both sully and fuzzy deny it, the tracker and watcher roles are pretty straightforward. It is kind of strange to forget something as important as your own role. It seems more than convenient that fuzzy did not have any sort of information for us on his nightly investigation. And it seems even more convenient that he 'accidently' deleted his PM.

And now look at the vote count. Fuzzy is at L-1 (the last vote count is wrong since pmc seems to have not noticed stroop voting for fuzzy). This is the perfect opportunity for a quicklynch by the mafia, yet fuzzy remains safe. Sully refuses to vote for him.

It is in light of this information that my mason partner and I believe that Fuzzy and Sully are scumbuddies.

I sent him a message with that in it only an hour or so ago so that is why he has yet to post it for himself yet I think that this more than proves fuzzy and sully's scumminess. And I think with neanderpaul's lying claim we have found our third mafia member. In fact, I am so sure of this, that I don't care that the mafia knows my identity. Since we know all of them, we can just lynch them day by day and win. Game. Set. Match.

Posted: **Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:04 pm**

If you know for a fact that neanderpaul is lying about being the doctor, why didn't you vote for him?

Anyway, I see you are set on tying me up with Pengui. If he does turn out to be mafia, then I get lynched the next day for sure. I don't know what this means about you, but I would definitely like to clear up that I have no relation with Penguin. I was just saying it was believable to confuse the terms watcher and tracker, especially if you didn't have the PM any more. Of course that does not mean he was lying about missing is message in the first place. mods are usually pretty good at organizing their inboxes. You pretty much have to be. And if you aren't saving your important mafia messages separately from the rest of the junk, then I don't know how you would function.

So to make it clear I am not associated with him, vote Fuzzy Pengui

Posted: **Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:20 pm**

sully800 wrote:If you know for a fact that neanderpaul is lying about being the doctor, why didn't you vote for him?

Because I am positive that all three of you are scum so why would I change votes when you all need to be lynched anyway.

sully800 wrote:So to make it clear I am not associated with him, vote Fuzzy Pengui

To tell you the truth, this is really surprising. When you count stroop's vote that pmc missed (it's on page 13), this means fuzzy is lynched. However, if fuzzy turns out to be scum, I am still cautious of you, sully. You might have betrayed him to save yourself, since I did just call you out with him and neanderpaul as scum.

If he is in fact innocent, I'm still suspicious of you since you cast the final vote so easily after I called you out. No matter what the verdict is, I will be watching you closely tomorrow sully (because I plan for there to be a day 3 still).

For anyone else reading this, if you have any sort of power that could protect the doctor (me) tonight such as busdriving please use it.

Posted: **Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:39 pm**

sully800 wrote:If you know for a fact that neanderpaul is lying about being the doctor, why didn't you vote for him?

Anyway, I see you are set on tying me up with Pengui. If he does turn out to be mafia, then I get lynched the next day for sure. I don't know what this means about you, but I would definitely like to clear up that I have no relation with Penguin. I was just saying it was believable to confuse the terms watcher and tracker, especially if you didn't have the PM any more. Of course that does not mean he was lying about missing is message in the first place. mods are usually pretty good at organizing their inboxes. You pretty much have to be. And if you aren't saving your important mafia messages separately from the rest of the junk, then I don't know how you would function.

So to make it clear I am not associated with him, vote Fuzzy Pengui

I'm not sure it's you, I just stronly suspect, and I know neanderpaul is one, so we'll lynch him tomorrow and see about you the next day.

Posted: **Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:40 am**

Mr. Squirrel wrote:
neanderpaul14 wrote:
Falkomagno wrote:Well...I see a hazard position for town here.

I'm gonna claim.

My role is the Nurse Mason. that means we know each other with the doctor, and I would received doctor abilities if he's murdered. I'm willing to protect his identity, but if you find necessary he can show himself.

And now I, (and Doctor of course) know something.

First, I'm right now at L-2. With 2 scum around, is a very vulnerable position for me and for town, because if scum is not in my BW already, they could win this game already. So,that leave us in those possible scenarios:

1. One of the people in my BW is scum.
2. Two of the people in my BW are scum
3. The scum is outhere and didn't realized that they can win already.

I really don't see scenario 3 as real, because the players not voting already are neanderpaul and suspect. the first a very active postman, the last an experienced mafia player.

So, if you are town, please unvote, at least to avoid the possibility of a mafia quicklynch.

The most opportunistic vote in my BW is the Funzy penguin one. And his lack of information, even targeting Ace is bad looking.

But I see the SV behaviour suspicious too. adn sully doing a great job, but not for that clear of all suspicious.

vote Fuzzy penguin

Ok Falko is lying and he must be scum I am the doctor and he claims I should know him as the nurse, he is lying.

Vote Falko

No you are the liar. I know for a fact that falko is the nurse and that he has been talking to the doctor. Why? Because I am that doctor! We are also mason partners. I can post all of our PMs if you want proof!

He and I had agreed to not reveal my identity (sorry falko) because we knew that if my role was revealed the mafia would target me tonight and I couldn't protect myself, however I will not let my mason partner be lynched because you are claiming him to be a liar. Especially in this lynch or lose situation.

Now, falko and I have been deliberating, and I came up with some pretty hard-hitting evidence against fuzzy and sully. He was going to post it all so that I wouldn't be a target for the mafia. This is what I told him to say:
falko would have wrote:I have been discussing with the doctor who is my mason-partner about the current situation and we have come to some interesting conclusions. We believe we have unequivocal evidence that fuzzy is in fact scum. The doctor still wishes to remain unknown however because if he reveals his role, he will most definitely be targetted by the mafia tonight and he cannot protect himself.

Now, if you look back on the voting history, I was at L-2 for a little while. This would be the perfect opportunity for the mafia to quicklynch me, but they didn't. The only reason for this could be because their members were already in on the bandwagon. The people voting for me were simon, sully, and the penguin. Now, in order for the mafia to be unable to quicklynch me, there would have to already have been two of their members in my bandwagon. This alone gives us a 66% chance that fuzzy is scum. Plus, if you look at their recent posts, you will see that sully has been defending fuzzy. Does anyone else see the correlation?

Plus, although both sully and fuzzy deny it, the tracker and watcher roles are pretty straightforward. It is kind of strange to forget something as important as your own role. It seems more than convenient that fuzzy did not have any sort of information for us on his nightly investigation. And it seems even more convenient that he 'accidently' deleted his PM.

And now look at the vote count. Fuzzy is at L-1 (the last vote count is wrong since pmc seems to have not noticed stroop voting for fuzzy). This is the perfect opportunity for a quicklynch by the mafia, yet fuzzy remains safe. Sully refuses to vote for him.

It is in light of this information that my mason partner and I believe that Fuzzy and Sully are scumbuddies.

I sent him a message with that in it only an hour or so ago so that is why he has yet to post it for himself yet I think that this more than proves fuzzy and sully's scumminess. And I think with neanderpaul's lying claim we have found our third mafia member. In fact, I am so sure of this, that I don't care that the mafia knows my identity. Since we know all of them, we can just lynch them day by day and win. Game. Set. Match.

OK here we have another scum admitting to it. If he were indeed the doctor he would have come out before to confirm falko's claim. I did not come out sooner as this is my first game and was unsure what I may and may not do.

So now we know 2 of our mafiosa. I say we lynch Falko first then pull the Squirrel down from the tree tomorrow and return him to it with a rope.

Let me reiterate in closing this is my first game so please don't mistake my hesitance in here to be implied scummieness.

I am the doctor

We must lynch Falko and Squirrel!!!

Posted: **Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:47 am**

wow..that was a good twist to the events.

No matter I think we are at twilight right now....It's clear that tomorrow we have to go for neardenpaul.

And for the record, even if Mr. Squirell and I have a consensus about the suspicious of zully, I would like to open it to suspect as well..

Posted: **Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:50 am**

Falkomagno wrote:wow..that was a good twist to the events.

No matter I think we are at twilight right now....It's clear that tomorrow we have to go for neardenpaul.

And for the record, even if Mr. Squirell and I have a consensus about the suspicious of zully, I would like to open it to suspect as well..

You have a consensus because you are both scum and are working in cahoots.

LYNCH FALKO NOW

Posted: **Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:36 am**

Too late we already lynched fuzzy, and we're gonna do you tomorrow.

Posted: **Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:02 am**

Simon Viavant wrote:Too late we already lynched fuzzy, and we're gonna do you tomorrow.

Hmmmm Fuzzy hasn't been lynched yet, I think you must be saying you are the third Mafia.

We have our lynch list people Falko, Squirrel, and then Simon

Posted: **Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:04 am**

5 votes bro

Posted: **Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:41 am**

Vote Count!

falkomagno 2 - (neanderpaul, fuzzy pengui)
fuzzy pengui 5 - (falkomagno, Mr Squirrel, simon viavent, stroop sully800)

not voting- suspect

That's a lynch!

The day was crazy everyone was shooting, screaming and claims were flying all round the place. The Doctor was a much disputed role with neanderpual shooting at the top of his voice that he was the doctor only to be countered by Mr. Squirrel saying he was lying becasue he was the doctor. But in the end the town decided on a different target, fuzzy pengui.

"I am a watcher and I track people!"
"Wouldn't that be a tracker?"
"Erm that's what I meant"
"He's lying, he's lying!"

And so the villagers tied him up and sully pierced fuzzy pengui through the heart with a dagger.

fuzzy pengui (tracker) is dead!

Night 2

You have 72 hours for those actions.

Posted: **Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:20 am**

*sigh* I told you guys I just made a mistake with my role.... :cry:

Posted: **Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:26 pm**

The town woke up in fear, the end was near they could feel it. But to everyone's great surprise everyone turned up and was acounted for, could things be turning round for the better?

Day 3

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Posted: **Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:14 pm**

Looks like the doctor succeeded! Unfortunately we have two claimed doctors and I don't yet know who to believe.

So, if you say you are a doctor....who did you protect? Because that person must be town, since the mafia tried to lynch and failed.

Also, what is the deal with the nurse not knowing neanderpaul? I was thinking neander was the real doctor since he claimed first, but then Mr. Squirrel unleashed a bombshell of a post at the last minute. Falko, this one is up to you...are you really mason partners with Mr. Squirrel and is he really the doctor?

Posted: **Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:21 pm**

The scum no doubt about it is neardenpaul. The Doctor is Mr. Squirel, who has to have great information about who protected last night. I have large evidence about it, as all the messages that we had in that time, when I propose him to be his spokesman, to not put him in danger. But when we was arranging that, neardenpaul came with that fake claim.

vote neardenpaul

I would suggest a quicklynch here, since he is 100% scum.

Posted: **Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:24 pm**

I'm inclined to vote for falko at the moment, given his posting and voting record he's clearly in on some conspiracy.
For now I'll vote falko, but I'm also highly suspicious of stroop and possibly sully.
Falko and stroop lurked most of the game and have incredibly scummy voting records, most of the time they just pop in to say hi and vote, or jump on an easy attack.
I was a little suspicious of paul until that post^

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