benga wrote:As I understood it, there is no GA medal for extra games, but those points go for MVP medal?
Indeed:
Note: The extra games will count towards the General Achievement Medals for the individual players.
Lx
Lx. I asked the questions I did because of this. With the 50% rule and with extra games counting towards an MVP's total it needed clarifying whether 45 games would suffice or whether the extra games had to be included in the 50%. Good to know that playing the extra games is not a requirement, thank you.
Now what happens when there are no players willing to play the extra games? In your PM you said you would assign a player randomly. And if he doesn't join? Then what?
Thanks also for clarifying how MVP is decided (by win %). An 8 player assassin game has a 12.5% chance of being successful, so is if it is lost by an MVP candidate is it a case of Played 1 Lost 1?
I'm fairly sure you can see where I'm coming from here. Personally I don't wish to join any of the extra games, and I won't want to join them if I happen to get 'randomly assigned' to them either.
Highest position #5 (18 Nov 2010) General 4,380pts (11 Dec 2010)
benga wrote:As I understood it, there is no GA medal for extra games, but those points go for MVP medal?
Indeed:
Note: The extra games will count towards the General Achievement Medals for the individual players.
Lx
Lx. I asked the questions I did because of this. With the 50% rule and with extra games counting towards an MVP's total it needed clarifying whether 45 games would suffice or whether the extra games had to be included in the 50%. Good to know that playing the extra games is not a requirement, thank you.
Now what happens when there are no players willing to play the extra games? In your PM you said you would assign a player randomly. And if he doesn't join? Then what?
Thanks also for clarifying how MVP is decided (by win %). An 8 player assassin game has a 12.5% chance of being successful, so is if it is lost by an MVP candidate is it a case of Played 1 Lost 1?
I'm fairly sure you can see where I'm coming from here. Personally I don't wish to join any of the extra games, and I won't want to join them if I happen to get 'randomly assigned' to them either.
Let me start with saying that I'm utterly disappointed that you bring all this up now, you of all people! When this tournament thread was posted I sent a PM to the Team Captains of the teams I reserved spaces for and told you to read all the info before committing and pointed out that there were some changes to the format. In the OP I posted in big fat red letters something like: "Make sure you read and understand all the info posted here before signing up your team".
The main objective of playing on CC and in tournaments should be fun, IMHO. If you join a tournament, you obviously play to win it. GA Medals for the MVP, etc., are thrown in for a bit of extra fun. Now, I understand that there are some that take things a bit more serious, which is fine. Usually they are the higher ranked players, as a matter of fact, I don't think you can get a higher rank and maintain it without taking it more seriously. I don't, that's why I never got beyond the rank of Colonel. However, I did a lot to "protect" the higher ranked player's points: A team can have 6 members, so you can choose which games you play, all participants are officers (at sign-up) so at least there is some protection from playing very low ranked players, I even ask for players not to be assigned to play if their rank drops a lot, the extra games require only 6 players in total by a team and you don't have to play one, etc., etc.
I guess you should have made sure that you assembled a team with players of which at least one was/is willing to play extra games. And maybe you need to think about your priorities. If you want to win one or all of the GA Medals, you'll have to be willing to risk some points.
Now your questions:
Thanks also for clarifying how MVP is decided (by win %). An 8 player assassin game has a 12.5% chance of being successful, so is if it is lost by an MVP candidate is it a case of Played 1 Lost 1?
Yes.
Now what happens when there are no players willing to play the extra games? In your PM you said you would assign a player randomly. And if he doesn't join? Then what?
If a player doesn't join once I would assume that was a mistake. I would probably PM the Team Captain and player and give the player one more day to join. I he/she doesn't I would probably set up a new game with 1 player less.
Now, if it happens again, or it is clear that the player is simply not willing to join any extra games, I would ask the Team Captain to replace the player for a player that is willing to play extra games. If it is clear that the team is not willing to participate in the extra games I would remove the team from the tournament.
If that last example applies to your team (or any other team) I would appreciate it if the Team Captain would inform me of that decision now. It's still early in the tournament and I can probably still find a replacement team.
I think we know each other well enough for you to know that this is nothing personal. If a team refuses to play certain games I have no choice but to remove them from the tournament. I just can't understand why you didn't bring this up before we started, or before you confirmed your team. Or did you really not read the OP?
You keep going on about the OP, but rules such as.....
If a player doesn't join once I would assume that was a mistake. I would probably PM the Team Captain and player and give the player one more day to join. I he/she doesn't I would probably set up a new game with 1 player less.
Now, if it happens again, or it is clear that the player is simply not willing to join any extra games, I would ask the Team Captain to replace the player for a player that is willing to play extra games. If it is clear that the team is not willing to participate in the extra games I would remove the team from the tournament.
are not written in the OP. It's good to have clarification now before such instances may occur.
You can't expect teams to have already decided who will play which games before they sign up for the tourney, so it's worth knowing what the rules are if a player who is randomly picked for an extra game can not, or does not, play it. I might be in hospital, or prison - one just never knows. Cheers.
Highest position #5 (18 Nov 2010) General 4,380pts (11 Dec 2010)
Apart from the above mentioned games there will be 16 Assassin and Terminator games throughout the tournament. They will be 4 and 8 player games with varying settings. Every time they are set up, I will ask every team to assign one player to join a game. The teams of the players that win one of those games will receive 1 point. This will have no effect on the team score, points only come into play at the end of the tournament if there would be a tie in score and wins.
Note: The extra games will count towards the General Achievement Medals for the individual players.
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Highest position #5 (18 Nov 2010) General 4,380pts (11 Dec 2010)
Chariot of Fire wrote:You keep going on about the OP, but rules such as.....
If a player doesn't join once I would assume that was a mistake. I would probably PM the Team Captain and player and give the player one more day to join. I he/she doesn't I would probably set up a new game with 1 player less.
Now, if it happens again, or it is clear that the player is simply not willing to join any extra games, I would ask the Team Captain to replace the player for a player that is willing to play extra games. If it is clear that the team is not willing to participate in the extra games I would remove the team from the tournament.
are not written in the OP. It's good to have clarification now before such instances may occur.
You can't expect teams to have already decided who will play which games before they sign up for the tourney, so it's worth knowing what the rules are if a player who is randomly picked for an extra game can not, or does not, play it. I might be in hospital, or prison - one just never knows. Cheers.
Are just splitting hairs now or starting a pissing contest?
It is near-impossible to come up with rules for every possible situation. Even if one would, it will be just more text many people apparently don't read anyway.
I never said that you should have decided who plays which games before you sign up, but you should have known what games were going to be played and have a team prepared to play them.
If a player ends up in hospital, we have an "unforeseen situation" in which case I will try to find a solution with the Team Captain and/or other team members. There is a big difference between not being able to join a game and not being willing to play a game.
I understand your situation mate, but don't try to blame it on me. And if you have questions about the tournament I will try to answer them as I have done.
---- The games for Round 3 have been sent, please join them a.s.a.p.
Deadline for joining the games: Tuesday, May 22, 18:30 hrs. GMT
If there is a problem with a game, please let your Team Captain know (if possible, if not, contact me).
For the Schedule, Maps & Settings and other Round Info:Click here
Fog of War reminder:
[spoiler=fog of war]For games with fog of war the 12 hour courtesy rule will be in effect. I know from personal experience that it's not always practical (or possible) to wait 12 hours, so I'll "give or take" a few hours. Just don't make a habit of it! Please post in the chat if you cannot wait any longer and when you have taken the snapshot.[/spoiler] ----
S1 Tutti Frutti (Win by default) S2 Game 11036603 WWII Western Front - Tutti Frutti
D1 Game 11036616 WWII Eastern Front - Tutti Frutti D2 Tutti Frutti (Win by default) D3 Game 11036670 Arms Race - Team Sweden D4 Game 11036680 American Civil War - Tutti Frutti
T1 Tutti Frutti (Win by default) T2 Game 11036726 Waterloo - Tutti Frutti
Lindax wrote:---- The games for Round 3 have been sent, please join them a.s.a.p.
Deadline for joining the games: Tuesday, May 22, 18:30 hrs. GMT
If there is a problem with a game, please let your Team Captain know (if possible, if not, contact me).
For the Schedule, Maps & Settings and other Round Info:Click here
Fog of War reminder:
[spoiler=fog of war]For games with fog of war the 12 hour courtesy rule will be in effect. I know from personal experience that it's not always practical (or possible) to wait 12 hours, so I'll "give or take" a few hours. Just don't make a habit of it! Please post in the chat if you cannot wait any longer and when you have taken the snapshot.[/spoiler] ----
Have fun all!
Lx
12 Games are still waiting for players with less than 2 hours to go.
Lindax wrote:Account Sitting Rule [spoiler=account sitting]Account sitting is allowed, as long as:
It is done according to CC rules and guidelines
It's done for team members only (if the sitter is participating in the tournament)
It is announced in the chat for every turn taken
It is announced in this thread if it is more than one turn (holiday, longer absence, etc.)
Note: If a player is going on holiday for example, he/she should notify the Team Captain and that player should not be assigned games for that period. In other words, account sitting is to be avoided when reasonably possible.[/spoiler]
I will be away and josko will be sitting for me from 5/24 - 5/28 (24/5 - 28/5 for you weird date-formatting people...). I made my travel plans after the roster had already been set for round 3. Just putting a notification here, per the rules!
Lindax wrote:Account Sitting Rule [spoiler=account sitting]Account sitting is allowed, as long as:
It is done according to CC rules and guidelines
It's done for team members only (if the sitter is participating in the tournament)
It is announced in the chat for every turn taken
It is announced in this thread if it is more than one turn (holiday, longer absence, etc.)
Note: If a player is going on holiday for example, he/she should notify the Team Captain and that player should not be assigned games for that period. In other words, account sitting is to be avoided when reasonably possible.[/spoiler]
I will be away and josko will be sitting for me from 5/24 - 5/28 (24/5 - 28/5 for you weird date-formatting people...). I made my travel plans after the roster had already been set for round 3. Just putting a notification here, per the rules!
All members of my team made an impromptu decision to trek to the South Pole tomorrow so I may have to cover for them all if the satellite is playing up. Just sayin'
Highest position #5 (18 Nov 2010) General 4,380pts (11 Dec 2010)
- Round 3 is ongoing. Unfortunately two players were unable to join their games within 48 hours and have cost their teams dearly in forfeited games. Instead of dealing with it behind the scenes, as I used to do, I'm going to post the info here, maybe that helps avoiding this in the future:
[player]omiljeni[/player], Team Captain of team TebowJet did not join his 4 games, thus giving team Mythers 11 points.
[player]KraphtOne[/player] from team DYNASTY did not join his 3 games, resulting in 6 points for team Tutti Frutti.
For the Schedule, Maps & Settings and other Round Info:Click here
- The line-up for Extra Games 1 & 2 have been posted. No changes will be allowed from now on, except in "unforeseen situations", when I will try to find a solution.
Extra Games 1 & 2 will start May 27, coming Sunday.
For the Schedule, Maps & Settings and other Round Info:Click here
Lindax wrote:- Round 3 is ongoing. Unfortunately two players were unable to join their games within 48 hours and have cost their teams dearly in forfeited games. Instead of dealing with it behind the scenes, as I used to do, I'm going to post the info here, maybe that helps avoiding this in the future:
[player]KraphtOne[/player] from team DYNASTY did not join his 3 games, resulting in 6 points for team Tutti Frutti.
Lx
hi Lx
my search revealed following games missing: DYNASTY vs Tutti Frutti S1 D3 D4 T2
looks like he missed 4 games. unless another player missed an invite?
Lindax wrote:- Round 3 is ongoing. Unfortunately two players were unable to join their games within 48 hours and have cost their teams dearly in forfeited games. Instead of dealing with it behind the scenes, as I used to do, I'm going to post the info here, maybe that helps avoiding this in the future:
[player]KraphtOne[/player] from team DYNASTY did not join his 3 games, resulting in 6 points for team Tutti Frutti.
Lx
hi Lx
my search revealed following games missing: DYNASTY vs Tutti Frutti S1 D3 D4 T2
looks like he missed 4 games. unless another player missed an invite?
Correct, there were 8 games in total that were not filled. Must have been another player though.
Chariot of Fire wrote:Round 2 vs TNC Game 11036700 Dako/Pedronicus/Chuuuuck Game 11036713 Chariot of Fire/catnipdreams/Denise Game 11036734 Chariot of Fire/catnipdreams/Denise/Chuuuuck Result TOFU 18 TNC 2
Note: The extra games will count towards the General Achievement Medals for the individual players.
