Conquer Club

new guy1 wrote:Im sorry I havent posted much. I agree with the fact that bandwagons are good as long as there is someone that knows how to use them properly. As for me, I dont know how to use bw's effectively yet, but if someone knows how to read reactions then so be it. As for current events, I see how /'s joking is way late, but I dont think that it is of merit quite yet.

Right now we need info somewhere. To me, he's my target for that info. Whether or not we lynch him today is not something I'm gonna agree with yet. But squeezing him till he pops I think would be nice

thechuck51 wrote:unvote vote chapcrap

Not a single post since sign-ups. I think the danger in the heated debate that has been going on is that it is providing easy cover for people that want to fly under the radar.

Hmmmm for a lazy person who doesnt like typing and voted because / was easy,you took the time to find an inactive to vote for and to type your reason out carefully. [color=#BF00BF]FOS[/color] chuck for now. seems like you need to show other people to keep attention away from you. The mod had already been asked to prod at the time I believe.

arrrgh FOS chuck

jgordon1111 wrote:

thechuck51 wrote:unvote vote chapcrap

Not a single post since sign-ups. I think the danger in the heated debate that has been going on is that it is providing easy cover for people that want to fly under the radar.

Hmmmm for a lazy person who doesnt like typing and voted because / was easy,you took the time to find an inactive to vote for and to type your reason out carefully. [color=#BF00BF]FOS[/color] chuck for now. seems like you need to show other people to keep attention away from you. The mod had already been asked to prod at the time I believe.

1- the vote on / because I am lazy was a joke.
2- I am not actually lazy nor do i hate typing so taking the time to find an inactive to vote against is not out of character for me.
3- I missed two lines of text in 13 pages of posts, it happens

thechuck51 wrote:

jgordon1111 wrote:

thechuck51 wrote:unvote vote chapcrap

Not a single post since sign-ups. I think the danger in the heated debate that has been going on is that it is providing easy cover for people that want to fly under the radar.

Hmmmm for a lazy person who doesnt like typing and voted because / was easy,you took the time to find an inactive to vote for and to type your reason out carefully. [color=#BF00BF]FOS[/color] chuck for now. seems like you need to show other people to keep attention away from you. The mod had already been asked to prod at the time I believe.

1- the vote on / because I am lazy was a joke.
2- I am not actually lazy nor do i hate typing so taking the time to find an inactive to vote against is not out of character for me.
3- I missed two lines of text in 13 pages of posts, it happens

I understand the joke vote it was more the vote on an inactive with the mod being asked to prod the inactives.

along with the fact there is a debate going on that you are aware of about trying to target for BW's and narrow that list down,but you increase the number of players that have votes on them FOS chuck for increasing players voted on and slight skimming.

jak111 wrote:

new guy1 wrote:Im sorry I havent posted much. I agree with the fact that bandwagons are good as long as there is someone that knows how to use them properly. As for me, I dont know how to use bw's effectively yet, but if someone knows how to read reactions then so be it. As for current events, I see how /'s joking is way late, but I dont think that it is of merit quite yet.

Right now we need info somewhere. To me, he's my target for that info. Whether or not we lynch him today is not something I'm gonna agree with yet. But squeezing him till he pops I think would be nice

I can see your reasoning in that. I would like a little more before I support it with a vote though, or more support from everyone.

new guy1 wrote:

jak111 wrote:

new guy1 wrote:Im sorry I havent posted much. I agree with the fact that bandwagons are good as long as there is someone that knows how to use them properly. As for me, I dont know how to use bw's effectively yet, but if someone knows how to read reactions then so be it. As for current events, I see how /'s joking is way late, but I dont think that it is of merit quite yet.

Right now we need info somewhere. To me, he's my target for that info. Whether or not we lynch him today is not something I'm gonna agree with yet. But squeezing him till he pops I think would be nice

I can see your reasoning in that. I would like a little more before I support it with a vote though, or more support from everyone.

I think we can wait on chuck for a minute right now jak and pcm seem to have an interest elsewhere,need to see where that goes then Can comeback to chuck thats why I fos'ed him instead of voting, and adding more players voted for. If jak and pcm pin / thats where I will go to help first.

Guys, I will prod tomorrow when I get energy. Please make a list of who you want prodded.

ghostly447 wrote:Guys, I will prod tomorrow when I get energy. Please make a list of who you want prodded.

~Ragian
and whoever anyone else adds to the list.

jak111 wrote:Blerg, I haven't kept track, but I seem to have a fight like this at least once on D1 or D2 in all of my games. Let's agree that I don't like your plan PMC and you do not like mine. We're seeking for the same information in two different ways. I for one need some info to go on tonight so we can check in the mourning what happened.

Though /... we're past the joke vote stage if you haven't noticed. Unvote, Vote / for being lazy and still joking around, which, while I'm fighting PMC me nor him are voting for each other, it's more of a debate on interests for D1 plans. I think I found the person I want more info on <.<.

What? He's totally voting for you! And I'm the lazy one?

jak111 wrote:Yes, because joke voting is so good with the limited time you mentioned. Contradicting yourself /?

maybe they are equally use(ful/less), at least one doesn't give me Writer's cramp.
seriously though, what are you calling me out on? It's been two days, was voting thechuck for a joke really going to be the tour de force game ender that required 3 pages of debate?

jak111 wrote:

ghostly447 wrote:Guys, I will prod tomorrow when I get energy. Please make a list of who you want prodded.

~Ragian
and whoever anyone else adds to the list.

ragian just confirmed yesterday, may as well just mass prod everyone if we really need a prod at this point...

I suppose chap, to make sure he at least got his role like safari said?

Prod /. He hasn't posted since at least the time I posted this.

the jak/Pmc/lee debate didn't add much. Yes it was discussion. However, it didn't help get a read on people. In fact, it significantly lowered the tone of the conversations to an arbitrary level of who has been playing longest. So I agree with / in that his jokes are equally or more productive (less counterproductive) than the then current debate.

In this case, I think the obvious pressure target is thechuck.

DoomYoshi wrote:Prod /. He hasn't posted since at least the time I posted this.

the jak/Pmc/lee debate didn't add much. Yes it was discussion. However, it didn't help get a read on people. In fact, it significantly lowered the tone of the conversations to an arbitrary level of who has been playing longest. So I agree with / in that his jokes are equally or more productive (less counterproductive) than the then current debate.

In this case, I think the obvious pressure target is thechuck.

^ Doom and everyone else who is now voting Chuck. It's like now that I moved my attention elsewhere everyone is hopping on a bandwagon with no driver XD.

jak111 wrote:^ Doom and everyone else who is now voting Chuck. It's like now that I moved my attention elsewhere everyone is hopping on a bandwagon with no driver XD.

WOW, no one voted chuck since you did on page 12.
since you are obviously losing your ability to communicate, just press Morse code tap out one of the following numbers
1. To admit to being a horrible skimmer who posts more than he reads
2. To admit to being a jester and beg to get lynched
3. To indicate a mental breakdown, our cutting edge 1940's Military psychiatrists will be with you shortly

jak111 wrote:Blerg, I haven't kept track, but I seem to have a fight like this at least once on D1 or D2 in all of my games. Let's agree that I don't like your plan PMC and you do not like mine. We're seeking for the same information in two different ways. I for one need some info to go on tonight so we can check in the mourning what happened.

I agree jak, one day you shall learn the ways

/ wrote:What? He's totally voting for you! And I'm the lazy one?

I don't think that really matters, we both knew, as did everyone else (except perhaps lee) that there was no cases for the other one being scum presented. Had I been saying in those posts that jak was being counter productive deliberately then that would have been a different question. unvote

Speaking of being deliberately counter productive, I agree with jak. We were at the stage of the game where joking gets tiresome and we actually need to get on with the game. Bringing in more stupidity when me and jak were clearly trying to get something going was completely unproductive. vote /

DoomYoshi wrote:the jak/Pmc/lee debate didn't add much. Yes it was discussion. However, it didn't help get a read on people. In fact, it significantly lowered the tone of the conversations to an arbitrary level of who has been playing longest. So I agree with / in that his jokes are equally or more productive (less counterproductive) than the then current debate.

In this case, I think the obvious pressure target is thechuck.

Lowered the tone... from joke voting? That makes no sense. Our conversation was far far more likely to lead to further discussions than joke voting. Just because it doesn't have immediate effect means shit all and whether or not anyone else gathered information from it I did.

Of course I would like to point out the irony of you mentioning this because in joining the debate on who is being more productive you actually join our debate.

Leehar wrote:unvote

Thanks for the input Lee

pmchugh wrote:

jak111 wrote:Blerg, I haven't kept track, but I seem to have a fight like this at least once on D1 or D2 in all of my games. Let's agree that I don't like your plan PMC and you do not like mine. We're seeking for the same information in two different ways. I for one need some info to go on tonight so we can check in the mourning what happened.

I agree jak, one day you shall learn the ways

/ wrote:What? He's totally voting for you! And I'm the lazy one?

I don't think that really matters, we both knew, as did everyone else (except perhaps lee) that there was no cases for the other one being scum presented. Had I been saying in those posts that jak was being counter productive deliberately then that would have been a different question. unvote

Speaking of being deliberately counter productive, I agree with jak. We were at the stage of the game where joking gets tiresome and we actually need to get on with the game. Bringing in more stupidity when me and jak were clearly trying to get something going was completely unproductive. vote /

DoomYoshi wrote:the jak/Pmc/lee debate didn't add much. Yes it was discussion. However, it didn't help get a read on people. In fact, it significantly lowered the tone of the conversations to an arbitrary level of who has been playing longest. So I agree with / in that his jokes are equally or more productive (less counterproductive) than the then current debate.

In this case, I think the obvious pressure target is thechuck.

Lowered the tone... from joke voting? That makes no sense. Our conversation was far far more likely to lead to further discussions than joke voting. Just because it doesn't have immediate effect means shit all and whether or not anyone else gathered information from it I did.

Of course I would like to point out the irony of you mentioning this because in joining the debate on who is being more productive you actually join our debate.

Leehar wrote:unvote

Thanks for the input Lee

PCM just a question you have now placed your vote on /. I see the reason you and jak did joke voting should be over.

But chuck is starting to make mistakes that are being pointed out,and your stance was not to get alot of different people with votes on them and to focus on someone.

And yet for the second time rather than go with trying to get a claim from him,you have went an alternate direction.

I for one am now more than a little worried that your playing a logical game but then throw your own logic out of the way for the same player twice.

I see what jak said. Normally I would have followed that post with a vote on thechuck. But I don't vote n00bs day 1. However, I am only one player and not lots of people, so I am not sure what the dancing signifies.

Pmc, you have convinced me. Even though I still think / was more productive it is true that there was less intent to be productive. / does seem to have a whimsical attitude so far this game. Unfortunately, it has been a long time since I played with /, so I can't meta him.

And yes you did lower the tone. The conversation was dominated by who has played the longest. Pretty pointless e-penising.

@jgordon: Pmc and PCM are different players; be careful to not mix them

thechuck51 wrote:

/ wrote:

thechuck51 wrote:unvote vote chapcrap

Not a single post since sign-ups. I think the danger in the heated debate that has been going on is that it is providing easy cover for people that want to fly under the radar.

this was explained a few posts up

SPARTACUS1974 wrote:wow whats up with jak and pmchugh they arguing like a married couple lol , sorry for not post been busy last couple of days and busy for next few also but will post each night uk time .

not alot to say really until we pass out of joke stage and start hunting inactives i know chap has just become a dad so we cant expect him to post much the next few days but some others have cnfirmed and not posted so with this

vote Rodion

congrats chap

I suppose that excuse will work, just this once though

unvote

Thanks for letting it slide this time, but it won't stop me from OMGUS joke voting you!!! unovte vote chuck

Oh, crap, did I extend the joke vote too long, like / did? unvote vote chapcrap

Yeah, that was me saying that voting for / for an extended joke is really kind of silly. I'm here by the way and caught up. Let me recap what has happened so far: a billion joke votes, jak and pmc get in a slap-fight, and things got serious. Overall, I saw no real scum tells and I am happy to have missed most of the joke voting.

I will say, that I haven't been prodded, as was requested. I obviously received my role PM, because I confirmed. So, the reason for the prod wasn't really necessary, because as was already pointed out, I now have a 3 day old son and that was the reason for my absence. I am teaching him mafia right now.

Anyway, if we're really asking for prods already (not really necessary IMO, because there hasn't really been anything to comment on as of yet. Unless you wanted to break up the previously mentioned slap-fight, but who likes to break up slap-fights? They're so fun to watch! ), I guess I would prod Rodion and crazymilkshake5. And then, if I were the mod, I'd edit the post with the players list so that chuck's name was spelled correctly.

Now, let's get the Battle of the Buldge Bulge started!!

P.S. For the record, if we were taking sides in the slap fighting, I'm on pmc's side about BW'ing, but jak's side about the fact that there was really no case against him. The only reason jak got voted was because he didn't agree with pmc. Silly.

P.P.S. I can't still be voting for myself... unvote vote Ragian for slamming Inglorious Basterds. Oh, and for inactivity.

/ wrote:

jak111 wrote:^ Doom and everyone else who is now voting Chuck. It's like now that I moved my attention elsewhere everyone is hopping on a bandwagon with no driver XD.

WOW, no one voted chuck since you did on page 12.
since you are obviously losing your ability to communicate, just press Morse code tap out one of the following numbers
1. To admit to being a horrible skimmer who posts more than he reads
2. To admit to being a jester and beg to get lynched
3. To indicate a mental breakdown, our cutting edge 1940's Military psychiatrists will be with you shortly

Yeah, I'm with / here, what exactly did chuck say to raise your scumdar jak? Also, how many people are on the chuck bw right now? If it's only a couple, I doubt that's really enough to consider it a bw.

jgordon1111 wrote:PCM just a question you have now placed your vote on /. I see the reason you and jak did joke voting should be over.

But chuck is starting to make mistakes that are being pointed out,and your stance was not to get alot of different people with votes on them and to focus on someone.

And yet for the second time rather than go with trying to get a claim from him,you have went an alternate direction.

I for one am now more than a little worried that your playing a logical game but then throw your own logic out of the way for the same player twice.

When was the first time? As for not voting him now, I don't really need to as there is already significant enough pressure on him to warrant a decent response. Also why do you want him to claim already? That is extreme.

pmchugh wrote:

Leehar wrote:unvote

Thanks for the input Lee

There was no reason to seriously suspect Jak anymore as you so eloquently stated

But anyway, I have a more certain vote I now want to place, so Vote Rodion
Jg a couple posts earlier alerted me to his non-presence here, and from my limited experience from seeing him, I think he tends to actively submarine in that he follows the game closely as his after inactivity posting suggests, and is also a deadly mafia and even CC player. So either he's a scummy inactive, or we could benefit from his activity, thereby the reasoning for my vote-prod callout on him

@PMC, putting pressure on someone is why we are doing this,and getting a claim is the product of that pressure. He has already made mistakes I was just wondering why you were not checking him closer. Of the people who now have votes,other than rodion who seems inactive for some reason. To me chuck has slipped and therefore the best player to pressure for now. At this point 3 different targets for valid reasons all,but its time to narrow the focus a little. Or we are going to have to remember what each player has said thru multiple pages,just my opinion focus on one then go to the next.

is joke voting over now? i just received the prob i was looking for,

jgordon1111 wrote:@PMC, putting pressure on someone is why we are doing this,and getting a claim is the product of that pressure. He has already made mistakes I was just wondering why you were not checking him closer. Of the people who now have votes,other than rodion who seems inactive for some reason. To me chuck has slipped and therefore the best player to pressure for now. At this point 3 different targets for valid reasons all,but its time to narrow the focus a little. Or we are going to have to remember what each player has said thru multiple pages,just my opinion focus on one then go to the next.

your whole case stems from me missing a post about chap's inactivity. Its weak. You want to pressure me? go ahead. I have nothing to hide. Just be careful though, when your upcoming bandwagon on me results in a lynched townie, all the pressure on me will move to you.

Official Simplified Vote Count

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch

Jgordon – Dazza
new guy1 – Clever
Ragian – Rodion, ChapCrap
/ - Jak,
DoomYoshi – CMS
Thechuck51 – Ragian,
PMC – /
Rodion – Spartacus, Leehar
CLEVER - Safariguy

Sorry again if there are mistakes, but I dont think there are any. If there are, post here and I will fix immediately/onto the very next vote count.

Deadline set for 4/29/12 at around 9pm EST still.